is anyone else finding this entire season to be boring, campy and seemingly pointless?
maybe if you only watch the show to see Don bang broads and CLOSE in meetings then this season would be boring, but i think its been great. last episode was a top5 all time mad men episode.
maybe if you only watch the show to see Don bang broads and CLOSE in meetings then this season would be boring, but i think its been great. last episode was a top5 all time mad men episode.
that's not why i watch the show at all. i actually wish don would recede a bit in the story. some of the best, most interesting characters like the politco or the new, young jewish writer or don's new secretary are relegated to one or two lines per episode. something just feels really shallow and gimmicky about this season but i am hopeful this builds to something.
Great episode last night. So glad Roger got dick-punched.
I read that they're shaving Pete's hairline to make it recede more each season.
I didn't get why Cutler put Benson on Chevy. Anyone?
A few episodes ago, when they were going through cuts. Didn't Joan save Bob's job by making the argument that Bob shouldn't be fired (Though it was really just her trying to do something nice for him in return) because he would be a better fit working with Ken on Chevy?
Great episode last night. So glad Roger got dick-punched.
I read that they're shaving Pete's hairline to make it recede more each season.
I didn't get why Cutler put Benson on Chevy. Anyone?
A few episodes ago, when they were going through cuts. Didn't Joan save Bob's job by making the argument that Bob shouldn't be fired (Though it was really just her trying to do something nice for him in return) because he would be a better fit working with Ken on Chevy?
Kinda irked by the stereotyping of Abe and Ginsberg this season.
We get it, 1960's Jewish New Yorkers are going to be down with the civil rights movement; I just don't understand why the writers have to paint them as so neurotic/hysterical.
Kinda irked by the stereotyping of Abe and Ginsberg this season.
We get it, 1960's Jewish New Yorkers are going to be down with the civil rights movement; I just don't understand why the writers have to paint them as so neurotic/hysterical.
Ginzo's freaking out because of what Cutler said to him about his hypocrisy. He's genuinely breaking down over his own identity crisis, but it didn't take much. The kid's always been tightly wound, and I don't see that having much to do with Judaism.
whatever the origins of their respective crises (and I would argue they have clear common antecedents in the whole societal-upheaval-leading-to-self-doubt-re:-their-career-and-family-choices), the fact remains that they're the two neurotic basket cases of the season.
whatever the origins of their respective crises (and I would argue they have clear common antecedents in the whole societal-upheaval-leading-to-self-doubt-re:-their-career-and-family-choices), the fact remains that they're the two neurotic basket cases of the season.
What about Pete's WASPy ass? I say he's still the one most likely to pull a Ron Browz a la the opening sequence.
Pete's definitely cracking a little, one-by-one losing the privileges he took for granted.
And obviously Don's becoming less and less self-assured as the season progresses.
but Abe and Ginsberg are basically walking around these episodes wearing sandwich boards proclaiming their political views, not to mention melting down into hysterics as those views bump into their career/family choices.
Pete may well melt down, too, but I don't see the WASPs on the show so overtly defined/enslaved by their political views. both Jewish dudes are pretty one-dimensional. Not so Pete.
Well at least Ginsburg isn't the young black secretary whose character is about as drawn in as a blank piece of loose-leaf. Honestly, for the choosiness of some of the class and racial subplots of this season, the discussion, or lack thereof, is pretty disappointing here on Soulstrut. But, hey, if '68 riots in Chicago is what you want, Medium Cool is getting the Blu-ray treatment on Criterion.
Well at least Ginsburg isn't the young black secretary whose character is about as drawn in as a blank piece of loose-leaf. Honestly, for the choosiness of some of the class and racial subplots of this season, the discussion, or lack thereof, is pretty disappointing here on Soulstrut. But, hey, if '68 riots in Chicago is what you want, Medium Cool is getting the Blu-ray treatment on Criterion.
I won't speak to the discussion or lack thereof here on the Strut (does that really bother you?).
But I agree the secretary is pretty bad. clearly the writers went into this season thinking "well, we've got the civil rights thing going on in the backgorund this season so we better stick a Black character in there somehow."
But the show is about white ad execs. It always has been. Any attempt to stick a Black *main* character in there was gonna feel contrived. And that's exactly how it feels.
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That was a lot of episode.
Good music sequence outside the door
^THAT^ was incredible.
Yes, now it's actually starting to resemble a real advertising agency
maybe if you only watch the show to see Don bang broads and CLOSE in meetings then this season would be boring, but i think its been great. last episode was a top5 all time mad men episode.
that's not why i watch the show at all. i actually wish don would recede a bit in the story. some of the best, most interesting characters like the politco or the new, young jewish writer or don's new secretary are relegated to one or two lines per episode. something just feels really shallow and gimmicky about this season but i am hopeful this builds to something.
Last night was awesome
Nice ascots!
I read that they're shaving Pete's hairline to make it recede more each season.
I didn't get why Cutler put Benson on Chevy. Anyone?
A few episodes ago, when they were going through cuts. Didn't Joan save Bob's job by making the argument that Bob shouldn't be fired (Though it was really just her trying to do something nice for him in return) because he would be a better fit working with Ken on Chevy?
Oh, right! I guess that seed she planted worked.
We get it, 1960's Jewish New Yorkers are going to be down with the civil rights movement; I just don't understand why the writers have to paint them as so neurotic/hysterical.
Ginzo's freaking out because of what Cutler said to him about his hypocrisy. He's genuinely breaking down over his own identity crisis, but it didn't take much. The kid's always been tightly wound, and I don't see that having much to do with Judaism.
What about Pete's WASPy ass? I say he's still the one most likely to pull a Ron Browz a la the opening sequence.
And obviously Don's becoming less and less self-assured as the season progresses.
but Abe and Ginsberg are basically walking around these episodes wearing sandwich boards proclaiming their political views, not to mention melting down into hysterics as those views bump into their career/family choices.
Pete may well melt down, too, but I don't see the WASPs on the show so overtly defined/enslaved by their political views. both Jewish dudes are pretty one-dimensional. Not so Pete.
I won't speak to the discussion or lack thereof here on the Strut (does that really bother you?).
But I agree the secretary is pretty bad. clearly the writers went into this season thinking "well, we've got the civil rights thing going on in the backgorund this season so we better stick a Black character in there somehow."
But the show is about white ad execs. It always has been. Any attempt to stick a Black *main* character in there was gonna feel contrived. And that's exactly how it feels.
I thought this piece was an interesting read on Bob's motives.