I can't believe anybody will actually describe this schitt as "above average to classic" with a straight face.
Good production. And while I agree that what Jeru was bringing as an MC hasn't really stood the test of time, I don't all out hatt on him the way some on this site do.
I think 10 years is a large enough window to determine the greatness, or lack thereof, of an album. I chose 1996 because it has a number of recognized "classics" as well as a number of quality releases. I know the debate will rage on about the quality of current rap releases versus past rap releases but I just wanted to show how strong some of the past years have been.
How many of these albums from 1996 would you consider above-average to "classics":
-A Tribe Called Quest "Beats, Rhymes and Life" -A+ "Latch-Key Child" -Al Tariq "God Connections" -Bahamadia "Kollage" -Big Noyd "Episodes Of A Hustla" -Blahzay Blahzay "Blah, Blah, Blah" -Busta Rhymes "The Coming" -Cella Dwellas "Realms 'N Reality" -Chino XL "Here To Save You All" -Crucial Conflict "The Final Tic" -De La Soul "Stakes Is High" -DJ Shadow "Endtroducing..." -Dr. Octagon "Dr. Octagonecologyst" -Dru Down "Can You Feel Me" -E-40 "Tha Hall Of Game" -Fugees "The Score" -Geto Boys "The Resurrection" -Ghostface Killah "Ironman" (1996) -Heather B "Takin Mine" -Heltah Skeltah "Nocturnal" -Jay-Z "Reasonable Doubt" -Jeru the Damaja "Wrath of the Math" -Keith Murray "Enigma" -Kwest Tha Madd Lad "This Is My First Album" -Lil 1/2 Dead "Steel on a Mission" -Lord Finesse "The Awakening" -Mobb Deep "Hell On Earth" -M.O.P. "Firing Squad" -Mr. Mike "Wicked Wayz" -Nas "It Was Written" -Nine "Cloud 9" -O.G.C. "Da Storm" -Outkast "ATLiens" -Ras Kass "Soul On Ice" -Real Live "The Turnaround: A Long Awaited Drama" -Redman "Muddy Waters" -Richie Rich "Seasoned Veteran" -The Roots "Illadelph Halflife" -Sadat X "Wild Cowboys" -Mad Skillz "From Where?" -Slum Village "Fantastic Vol. 1" -Smoothe Da Hustler "Once Upon A Time In America" -2Pac "All Eyez On Me" -2Pac/Makaveli "The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory" -U.G.K. "Ridin' Dirty" -Westside Connection "Bow Down" -Xzibit "At The Speed Of Life" -Young Lay "Black 'N Dangerous"
Faux Rillz you are tripping. Strike Jeru, Un-strike Smoothe da Hustler, Real Live, Xzibit and Heltah Sketlah k thnx bye.
Forgotten in this list: Do or Die - Picture This Master P - Ice Cream Man Foxy Brown - Ill Na Na (not classic but above ave. for sure) Dayton Family - FBI Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies EP Big Noyd - Episodes of a Hustler Messy Marv - Messy Situations Lost Boyz - Legal Drug Money
-A Tribe Called Quest "Beats, Rhymes and Life" -Busta Rhymes "The Coming" -Heltah Skeltah "Nocturnal" -Jeru the Damaja "Wrath of the Math" -Nas "It Was Written" -The Roots "Illadelph Halflife"
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Dude that Jeru was cool when it came out!
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Above average:
-A Tribe Called Quest "Beats, Rhymes and Life" -Busta Rhymes "The Coming" -Heltah Skeltah "Nocturnal" -Jeru the Damaja "Wrath of the Math" -Nas "It Was Written" -The Roots "Illadelph Halflife"
REGIONAL BIAS! NEW YORK IS NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, YOU SUBSCRIBER TO THE SCHOOL OF SMUG SELF RIGHTEOUS HATTERDOM!
-A Tribe Called Quest "Beats, Rhymes and Life" -Busta Rhymes "The Coming" -Heltah Skeltah "Nocturnal" -Jeru the Damaja "Wrath of the Math" -Nas "It Was Written" -The Roots "Illadelph Halflife"
REGIONAL BIAS! NEW YORK IS NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, YOU SUBSCRIBER TO THE SCHOOL OF SMUG SELF RIGHTEOUS HATTERDOM!
CARPETBAGGEUR ALERT!
I see predict some rectal rebuilding in your future.
I'm reposting because i edited it after other ppl posted but
Forgotten in this list: Do or Die - Picture This Master P - Ice Cream Man Foxy Brown - Ill Na Na (not classic but above ave. for sure) Dayton Family - FBI Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies EP Big Noyd - Episodes of a Hustler Messy Marv - Messy Situations (sub-classic but good) Lost Boyz - Legal Drug Money
I think 10 years is a large enough window to determine the greatness, or lack thereof, of an album. I chose 1996 because it has a number of recognized "classics" as well as a number of quality releases. I know the debate will rage on about the quality of current rap releases versus past rap releases but I just wanted to show how strong some of the past years have been.
How many of these albums from 1996 would you consider above-average to "classics":
-A Tribe Called Quest "Beats, Rhymes and Life" -A+ "Latch-Key Child" -Al Tariq "God Connections" -Bahamadia "Kollage" -Big Noyd "Episodes Of A Hustla" -Blahzay Blahzay "Blah, Blah, Blah" -Busta Rhymes "The Coming" -Cella Dwellas "Realms 'N Reality" -Chino XL "Here To Save You All" -Crucial Conflict "The Final Tic" -De La Soul "Stakes Is High" -DJ Shadow "Endtroducing..." -Dr. Octagon "Dr. Octagonecologyst" -Dru Down "Can You Feel Me" -E-40 "Tha Hall Of Game" -Fugees "The Score" -Geto Boys "The Resurrection" -Ghostface Killah "Ironman" (1996) -Heather B "Takin Mine" -Heltah Skeltah "Nocturnal" -Jay-Z "Reasonable Doubt" -Jeru the Damaja "Wrath of the Math" -Keith Murray "Enigma" -Kwest Tha Madd Lad "This Is My First Album" -Lil 1/2 Dead "Steel on a Mission" -Lord Finesse "The Awakening" -Mobb Deep "Hell On Earth" -M.O.P. "Firing Squad" -Mr. Mike "Wicked Wayz" -Nas "It Was Written" -Nine "Cloud 9" -O.G.C. "Da Storm" -Outkast "ATLiens" -Ras Kass "Soul On Ice" -Real Live "The Turnaround: A Long Awaited Drama" -Redman "Muddy Waters" -Richie Rich "Seasoned Veteran" -The Roots "Illadelph Halflife" -Sadat X "Wild Cowboys" -Mad Skillz "From Where?" -Slum Village "Fantastic Vol. 1" -Smoothe Da Hustler "Once Upon A Time In America" -2Pac "All Eyez On Me" -2Pac/Makaveli "The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory" -U.G.K. "Ridin' Dirty" -Westside Connection "Bow Down" -Xzibit "At The Speed Of Life" -Young Lay "Black 'N Dangerous"
Faux Rillz you are tripping. Strike Jeru, Un-strike Smoothe da Hustler, Real Live, Xzibit and Heltah Sketlah k thnx bye.
Please be serious... Xzibit?
Contents of Jeru's cat's litter box >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit's entire career
Bush Babees - Gravity 5th Ward Boyz - Situations Tela - Piece of Mind V/A - America is Dying Slowly Poor Righteous teachers - New World Order 3-6 Mafia - Tear the Club Up
Bush Babees - Gravity 5th Ward Boyz - Situations Tela - Piece of Mind V/A - America is Dying Slowly Poor Righteous teachers - New World Order 3-6 Mafia - Tear the Club Up
Da Bush Babees?
Now I know you're just trying to push buttons. Have you listened to that lately? I defy you to tell me it contains any rapping that could even be described as competent.
3-6 is a classic, but the album I think you have in mind is actually called Chapter 2: World Domination.
3-6 is a classic, but the album I think you have in mind is actually called Chapter 2: World Domination.
Thats actually '97, (part of why '97 > '96) but apparently the album I'm thinking of is Da End.
You might be right about da bush babees, its been awhile since i listened but its some early ummah production and an early appearance by mos def so I assumed it was as good as I remember.
5th Ward Boyz and Tela albums are straight up classics. If we talk about '97 I get to drop the HARLEM WORLD bomb.
'97 had harlem world, no way out and life after death. Suga Free, Rappin 4-tay, Capone n Noreaga, Master P, Camp Lo, Twista, Jay-Z, three-6, Busta, Tru, B-Legit, Missy Elliott, Rakim, Trick Daddy, Hot Boyz.
-Tha Alkaholiks "Likwidation" -Artifacts "That's Them" -Atmosphere "Overcast" -Beat Nuts "Stone Crazy" -B.G. "Chopper City" -B.G. "It's All On U Vol.1" -B.G. "It's All On U Vol.2" -Busta Rhymes "When Disaster Strikes..." -Camp Lo "Uptown Saturday Night" -Capone-N-Noreaga "The War Report" -Common "One Day It'll All Make Sense" -Company Flow "Funcrusher Plus" -Cru "Da Dirty 30" -Diamond D "Hatred, Passion & Infidelity" -EPMD "Back In Business" -Frankie Cutlass "Politics & Bullsh!t" -The Herbaliser "Blow Your Headphones" -Jay-Z "In My Lifetime, Vol. 1" -Kool Keith "Sex Style [Erotic Man]" -KRS-One "I Got Next" -MJG "No More Glory" -No I.D. "Accept Your Own And Be Yourself" -The Notorious B.I.G. "Life After Death" -O.C. "Jewelz" -Organized Konfusion "The Equinox" -Rakim "The 18th Letter" -Royal Flush "Ghetto Millionaire" -Scarface "Untouchable" -2Pac "R U Still Down?" -Various Artists "Soul In The Hole" -Various Artists "Soundbombing 1" -Wu-Tang Clan "Wu-Tang Forever" -Wyclef Jean "The Carnival"
Contents of Jeru's cat's litter box >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit's entire career
Smooth da Hustler? Classic song, garbage album.
man I like some of that jeru but that first Xzibit totally shits on Wrath Of The Math, fucking carry the weight, eyes may shine, the foundation, plastic surgery, birds eye view, paparazzi.
Contents of Jeru's cat's litter box >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit's entire career
Smooth da Hustler? Classic song, garbage album.
man I like some of that jeru but that first Xzibit totally shits on Wrath Of The Math, fucking carry the weight, eyes may shine, the foundation, plastic surgery, birds eye view, paparazzi.
I think D****l is too connected to Xzibit's MTV personality to appreciate that album. It's not "classic," but it's got some really good moments.
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Good production. And while I agree that what Jeru was bringing as an MC hasn't really stood the test of time, I don't all out hatt on him the way some on this site do.
Faux Rillz you are tripping. Strike Jeru, Un-strike Smoothe da Hustler, Real Live, Xzibit and Heltah Sketlah k thnx bye.
Forgotten in this list:
Do or Die - Picture This
Master P - Ice Cream Man
Foxy Brown - Ill Na Na (not classic but above ave. for sure)
Dayton Family - FBI
Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies EP
Big Noyd - Episodes of a Hustler
Messy Marv - Messy Situations
Lost Boyz - Legal Drug Money
REGIONAL BIAS! NEW YORK IS NOT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, YOU SUBSCRIBER TO THE SCHOOL OF SMUG SELF RIGHTEOUS HATTERDOM!
CARPETBAGGEUR ALERT!
Dude that Jeru was cool when it came out!
Moreso than ever, your barbs are below average.
I see predict some rectal rebuilding in your future.
Please to call 1-800-pee-pee-5-1-doo-doo.
Forgotten in this list:
Do or Die - Picture This
Master P - Ice Cream Man
Foxy Brown - Ill Na Na (not classic but above ave. for sure)
Dayton Family - FBI
Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies EP
Big Noyd - Episodes of a Hustler
Messy Marv - Messy Situations (sub-classic but good)
Lost Boyz - Legal Drug Money
Please be serious... Xzibit?
Contents of Jeru's cat's litter box >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit's entire career
Smooth da Hustler? Classic song, garbage album.
That is a classic, but I was thinking it was 95.
5th Ward Boyz - Situations
Tela - Piece of Mind
V/A - America is Dying Slowly
Poor Righteous teachers - New World Order
3-6 Mafia - Tear the Club Up
I would take Jeru's first over any Xzibit but other than that the first two Xzibit albums > Jeru's career.
Da Bush Babees?
Now I know you're just trying to push buttons. Have you listened to that lately? I defy you to tell me it contains any rapping that could even be described as competent.
3-6 is a classic, but the album I think you have in mind is actually called Chapter 2: World Domination.
Thats actually '97, (part of why '97 > '96) but apparently the album I'm thinking of is Da End.
You might be right about da bush babees, its been awhile since i listened but its some early ummah production and an early appearance by mos def so I assumed it was as good as I remember.
5th Ward Boyz and Tela albums are straight up classics.
If we talk about '97 I get to drop the HARLEM WORLD bomb.
Actually, I will cosign that.
Suga Free, Rappin 4-tay, Capone n Noreaga, Master P, Camp Lo, Twista, Jay-Z, three-6, Busta, Tru, B-Legit, Missy Elliott, Rakim, Trick Daddy, Hot Boyz.
Revisionist.[/b]
Eau d'histoire hattoire de rigeuer...
-Tha Alkaholiks "Likwidation"
-Artifacts "That's Them"
-Atmosphere "Overcast"
-Beat Nuts "Stone Crazy"
-B.G. "Chopper City"
-B.G. "It's All On U Vol.1"
-B.G. "It's All On U Vol.2"
-Busta Rhymes "When Disaster Strikes..."
-Camp Lo "Uptown Saturday Night"
-Capone-N-Noreaga "The War Report"
-Common "One Day It'll All Make Sense"
-Company Flow "Funcrusher Plus"
-Cru "Da Dirty 30"
-Diamond D "Hatred, Passion & Infidelity"
-EPMD "Back In Business"
-Frankie Cutlass "Politics & Bullsh!t"
-The Herbaliser "Blow Your Headphones"
-Jay-Z "In My Lifetime, Vol. 1"
-Kool Keith "Sex Style [Erotic Man]"
-KRS-One "I Got Next"
-MJG "No More Glory"
-No I.D. "Accept Your Own And Be Yourself"
-The Notorious B.I.G. "Life After Death"
-O.C. "Jewelz"
-Organized Konfusion "The Equinox"
-Rakim "The 18th Letter"
-Royal Flush "Ghetto Millionaire"
-Scarface "Untouchable"
-2Pac "R U Still Down?"
-Various Artists "Soul In The Hole"
-Various Artists "Soundbombing 1"
-Wu-Tang Clan "Wu-Tang Forever"
-Wyclef Jean "The Carnival"
Whatever happened to Cru? I remember one of them was in jail when the LP dropped or something and then I never heard about dudes again.
man I like some of that jeru but that first Xzibit totally shits on Wrath Of The Math, fucking carry the weight, eyes may shine, the foundation, plastic surgery, birds eye view, paparazzi.
I think D****l is too connected to Xzibit's MTV personality to appreciate that album. It's not "classic," but it's got some really good moments.
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