whatup ray!! fun to be smashing the scrubby teams mouths, right?
bat, youre acting illiterate!! i keep trying to divorce this conversation from the sixers and where they are at. theyre not built for a chip this year. Im just interested in opinions as to why well balanced/no superstar teams havent ever won (besides detroit). so far, everyones thoughts are, "well they havent before" well....[krs]WHY IS THAT????[/krs]
watching this well coached, deep, unselfish sixers squad got me thinking that its possible. maybe not with us, but since the sixers brought this up...i think if we hit the right two trades we could be a legit contender next year sans superstar. i'm not even getting my hopes up, its just interesting to contemplate since its barely been done.
From an inteview with Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus, a statistical website, done by Golden State of Mind:
GSoM: Well then...you have forced me to ask: if you had to choose between Steph Curry or Monta Ellis to build around, who would it be based on the numbers?
KP: Absent the ankle, it would definitely be Curry. I think you can build a winning team around Ellis--like the We Believe team--but it would require just the right mix of talent around him. To build a competitive defense with Ellis, you'd have to put him alongside a big guard and to make that work on offense that player would have to both be able to distribute and shoot the three. Those kind of players are rare and valuable. Curry is much easier to translate to any situation.
From an inteview with Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus, a statistical website, done by Golden State of Mind:
GSoM: Well then...you have forced me to ask: if you had to choose between Steph Curry or Monta Ellis to build around, who would it be based on the numbers?
KP: Absent the ankle, it would definitely be Curry. I think you can build a winning team around Ellis--like the We Believe team--but it would require just the right mix of talent around him. To build a competitive defense with Ellis, you'd have to put him alongside a big guard and to make that work on offense that player would have to both be able to distribute and shoot the three. Those kind of players are rare and valuable. Curry is much easier to translate to any situation.
I like the Miami commentators. They are one of the few local commentators that dont make me to throw something at the screen.
Clippers are the worst. Chicago used to be.
can we stop talking less about the Warriors and more about legit teams?
no we can't. it's all we have (apart from some pretty good baseball and football teams up here).
do you all still think that jackson is a legit coach?
the metric i'm holding his legitimacy to is a .500 team, which is a low bar to meet and which will probably not happen.
i've seen jackson outcoached several times this season against teams the warriors should have beat (pacers, sixers, nets, charlotte, etc.) They wont hit 30 wins and god damned phoenix (a team with much less talent) will make the playoffs before the warriors.
so far, he's teh suck.
edit: a prime example of his idiot stubborn coaching was that horrible insistence on sticking with hack-a-howard when the warriros were TIED IN THE FIRST HALF.
dude had starters and bench players racking up ungodly amounts of fouls in the second and third quarters AWAY FROM THE BALL so when the game was close down the stretch, everyone was playing with four or five fouls. at least howard set a free throw attempt record though, right?
can we stop talking less about the Warriors and more about legit teams?
no we can't. it's all we have (apart from some pretty good baseball and football teams up here).
do you all still think that jackson is a legit coach?
the metric i'm holding his legitimacy to is a .500 team, which is a low bar to meet and which will probably not happen.
i've seen jackson outcoached several times this season against teams the warriors should have beat (pacers, sixers, nets, charlotte, etc.) They wont hit 30 wins and god damned phoenix (a team with much less talent) will make the playoffs before the warriors.
so far, he's teh suck.
edit: a prime example of his idiot stubborn coaching was that horrible insistence on sticking with hack-a-howard when the warriros were TIED IN THE FIRST HALF.
dude had starters and bench players racking up ungodly amounts of fouls in the second and third quarters AWAY FROM THE BALL so when the game was close down the stretch, everyone was playing with four or five fouls. at least howard set a free throw attempt record though, right?
the warriors are too small. another coach aint gonna solve that.
can we stop talking less about the Warriors and more about legit teams?
Haha......
Give me your take on The Lakers this year.
Seems like healthy Bynum is a big plus and Kobe is reverting to his pre-Gasol go fo self game.
And your bench is questionable.
I was very much under the same impression that this year's Lakers were mediocre because
Kobe was hogging the ball.
I actually went to Staples tonight and realized that Gasol and Bynum are really bad at establishing good low-post position on a consistent
basis. I mean, when your PF is just wandering around 18feet....you'd probably be better off having another 3 on the floor....
I blame letting go of Lamar, and Pau not having any fire in his game at all. In summary, the Lakers will not have a deep playoff run....
Brandon Jennings = baller. 36 at MSG. Same D'Antoni. Knicks suck
Roy Hibbert is LEGIT. 13, 10, and 1.6 blocks? LEGIT. Dude more than held his own against Bynum tonight.
George Hill was raining threes....Pacers now 11-4. LEGIT.
can we stop talking less about the Warriors and more about legit teams?
Haha......
Give me your take on The Lakers this year.
Seems like healthy Bynum is a big plus and Kobe is reverting to his pre-Gasol go fo self game.
And your bench is questionable.
I was very much under the same impression that this year's Lakers were mediocre because
Kobe was hogging the ball.
I actually went to Staples tonight and realized that Gasol and Bynum are really bad at establishing good low-post position on a consistent
basis. I mean, when your PF is just wandering around 18feet....you'd probably be better off having another 3 on the floor....
I blame letting go of Lamar, and Pau not having any fire in his game at all. In summary, the Lakers will not have a deep playoff run....
If Kobe doesnt score no one seems to be taking the Pippen role. I dont know if they are lettin Kobe do his thang with the new offense, or dudes arent attacking enuff. Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
Fisher has to go the second unit.
Bynum and Gasol are still scary but they need the ball more.
Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
If you game plan calls for Matt Barnes to do anything other than foul people, hit the occasional corner 3, and win the League's Shittiest Tattoos award, then your team is in bad shape.
can we stop talking less about the Warriors and more about legit teams?
Haha......
Give me your take on The Lakers this year.
Seems like healthy Bynum is a big plus and Kobe is reverting to his pre-Gasol go fo self game.
And your bench is questionable.
I was very much under the same impression that this year's Lakers were mediocre because
Kobe was hogging the ball.
I actually went to Staples tonight and realized that Gasol and Bynum are really bad at establishing good low-post position on a consistent
basis. I mean, when your PF is just wandering around 18feet....you'd probably be better off having another 3 on the floor....
I blame letting go of Lamar, and Pau not having any fire in his game at all. In summary, the Lakers will not have a deep playoff run....
If Kobe doesnt score no one seems to be taking the Pippen role. I dont know if they are lettin Kobe do his thang with the new offense, or dudes arent attacking enuff. Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
Fisher has to go the second unit.
Bynum and Gasol are still scary but they need the ball more.
Mark Gasol > Pau Gasol
Lakers are def getting used to Mike Brown's more free-flowing system that's for sure. Not only on the offensive end, but on defense too. It's a more active defense, with a strong emphasis on help D. I think as long as the Lakers committ fully to Brown's philosophy, they could do well in the playoffs. Doesn't bode so well in the regular season though.
can we stop talking less about the Warriors and more about legit teams?
Haha......
Give me your take on The Lakers this year.
Seems like healthy Bynum is a big plus and Kobe is reverting to his pre-Gasol go fo self game.
And your bench is questionable.
I was very much under the same impression that this year's Lakers were mediocre because
Kobe was hogging the ball.
I actually went to Staples tonight and realized that Gasol and Bynum are really bad at establishing good low-post position on a consistent
basis. I mean, when your PF is just wandering around 18feet....you'd probably be better off having another 3 on the floor....
I blame letting go of Lamar, and Pau not having any fire in his game at all. In summary, the Lakers will not have a deep playoff run....
If Kobe doesnt score no one seems to be taking the Pippen role. I dont know if they are lettin Kobe do his thang with the new offense, or dudes arent attacking enuff. Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
Fisher has to go the second unit.
Bynum and Gasol are still scary but they need the ball more.
Mark Gasol > Pau Gasol
Lakers are def getting used to Mike Brown's more free-flowing system that's for sure. Not only on the offensive end, but on defense too. It's a more active defense, with a strong emphasis on help D. I think as long as the Lakers committ fully to Brown's philosophy, they could do well in the playoffs. Doesn't bode so well in the regular season though.
Im surprised youve been taken by Mike Browns game. He looked like deer in headlights when the pressure got hot with the Cavs.
LeBron bailed his ass out, until the darkenss came to light that both of them were suspect...imo.
Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
If you game plan calls for Matt Barnes to do anything other than foul people, hit the occasional corner 3, and win the League's Shittiest Tattoos award, then your team is in bad shape.
marquis daniels wins the shittiest tattoo award by a long shot
Im surprised youve been taken by Mike Browns game. He looked like deer in headlights when the pressure got hot with the Cavs.
LeBron bailed his ass out, until the darkenss came to light that both of them were suspect...imo.
I mean with what the Cavs had, I think they overachieved. Mike Brown is a good alternative to Phil Jackson in terms of being able to manage superstars. He also is a defensive-minded coach, which I like.
Im surprised youve been taken by Mike Browns game. He looked like deer in headlights when the pressure got hot with the Cavs.
LeBron bailed his ass out, until the darkenss came to light that both of them were suspect...imo.
I mean with what the Cavs had, I think they overachieved. Mike Brown is a good alternative to Phil Jackson in terms of being able to manage superstars. He also is a defensive-minded coach, which I like.
Im not sure he really managed LeBron, but yeah he is defensive minded.
Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
If you game plan calls for Matt Barnes to do anything other than foul people, hit the occasional corner 3, and win the League's Shittiest Tattoos award, then your team is in bad shape.
marquis daniels wins the shittiest tattoo award by a long shot
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If it hasn't in the past your betting your money on your team to win it all w/ something that hasnt been done?
bat, youre acting illiterate!! i keep trying to divorce this conversation from the sixers and where they are at. theyre not built for a chip this year. Im just interested in opinions as to why well balanced/no superstar teams havent ever won (besides detroit). so far, everyones thoughts are, "well they havent before" well....[krs]WHY IS THAT????[/krs]
watching this well coached, deep, unselfish sixers squad got me thinking that its possible. maybe not with us, but since the sixers brought this up...i think if we hit the right two trades we could be a legit contender next year sans superstar. i'm not even getting my hopes up, its just interesting to contemplate since its barely been done.
maybe not, but camby, horford just went down to add to the list
GSoM: Well then...you have forced me to ask: if you had to choose between Steph Curry or Monta Ellis to build around, who would it be based on the numbers?
KP: Absent the ankle, it would definitely be Curry. I think you can build a winning team around Ellis--like the We Believe team--but it would require just the right mix of talent around him. To build a competitive defense with Ellis, you'd have to put him alongside a big guard and to make that work on offense that player would have to both be able to distribute and shoot the three. Those kind of players are rare and valuable. Curry is much easier to translate to any situation.
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2012/1/13/2705030/basketball-prospectus-golden-state-warriors-nate-robinson
I done said that
Shorter training camps and condensed schedule (back-to-back-to-backs)
Haha......
Give me your take on The Lakers this year.
Seems like healthy Bynum is a big plus and Kobe is reverting to his pre-Gasol go fo self game.
And your bench is questionable.
Should be a perfect superstar team vs non-superstar team example game (and just a good game to boot).
Clippers are the worst. Chicago used to be.
no we can't. it's all we have (apart from some pretty good baseball and football teams up here).
do you all still think that jackson is a legit coach?
the metric i'm holding his legitimacy to is a .500 team, which is a low bar to meet and which will probably not happen.
i've seen jackson outcoached several times this season against teams the warriors should have beat (pacers, sixers, nets, charlotte, etc.) They wont hit 30 wins and god damned phoenix (a team with much less talent) will make the playoffs before the warriors.
so far, he's teh suck.
edit: a prime example of his idiot stubborn coaching was that horrible insistence on sticking with hack-a-howard when the warriros were TIED IN THE FIRST HALF.
dude had starters and bench players racking up ungodly amounts of fouls in the second and third quarters AWAY FROM THE BALL so when the game was close down the stretch, everyone was playing with four or five fouls. at least howard set a free throw attempt record though, right?
the warriors are too small. another coach aint gonna solve that.
I was very much under the same impression that this year's Lakers were mediocre because
Kobe was hogging the ball.
I actually went to Staples tonight and realized that Gasol and Bynum are really bad at establishing good low-post position on a consistent
basis. I mean, when your PF is just wandering around 18feet....you'd probably be better off having another 3 on the floor....
I blame letting go of Lamar, and Pau not having any fire in his game at all. In summary, the Lakers will not have a deep playoff run....
Roy Hibbert is LEGIT. 13, 10, and 1.6 blocks? LEGIT. Dude more than held his own against Bynum tonight.
George Hill was raining threes....Pacers now 11-4. LEGIT.
If Kobe doesnt score no one seems to be taking the Pippen role. I dont know if they are lettin Kobe do his thang with the new offense, or dudes arent attacking enuff. Matt Barnes is supossed to be that second slasher but.....
Fisher has to go the second unit.
Bynum and Gasol are still scary but they need the ball more.
If you game plan calls for Matt Barnes to do anything other than foul people, hit the occasional corner 3, and win the League's Shittiest Tattoos award, then your team is in bad shape.
Mark Gasol > Pau Gasol
Lakers are def getting used to Mike Brown's more free-flowing system that's for sure. Not only on the offensive end, but on defense too. It's a more active defense, with a strong emphasis on help D. I think as long as the Lakers committ fully to Brown's philosophy, they could do well in the playoffs. Doesn't bode so well in the regular season though.
Im surprised youve been taken by Mike Browns game. He looked like deer in headlights when the pressure got hot with the Cavs.
LeBron bailed his ass out, until the darkenss came to light that both of them were suspect...imo.
marquis daniels wins the shittiest tattoo award by a long shot
I mean with what the Cavs had, I think they overachieved. Mike Brown is a good alternative to Phil Jackson in terms of being able to manage superstars. He also is a defensive-minded coach, which I like.
Im not sure he really managed LeBron, but yeah he is defensive minded.