I'll be frank and say "because it's sensationalist bullshit?"
Acknowledge the core of the argument. Bye.
I believe your argument started with that statement, and the rest was your interpretation of another's remarks which you used as a defense. So I actually was acknowledging the core of your argument.
C'mon now kiddo, you're fuckin around with grown folks in here.
I am only going to point out that there was nothing "accidental[]" about what you did. This thread was ~2 months and 32 pages deep and yet you had demonstrated no previous interest in it. But on the occasion of Eddie Griffin's death, you make your debut, dredging up the unsubstantiated masturbation allegation made by an interested party in a lawsuit against him. At least be honest about what you're up to.
you soooo really want this to be true don't you?
I pointed it out because as soon as I read the article on him crashing into a train while drunk I remembered back to the other story from a year ago. When I mentioned Eddie Griffin's death to another coworker the first thing she brought up was the porn drunk driving episode; It's not that tough a connection to make. If you are going to defend the act of Eddie Griffins repeated drunk driving and tell me that I should show more respect for his passing and not think about the repeated life-threatening (and eventually life-ending) move that he made well then I'm sorry, we are not going to agree.
Would my criticism of his drunk driving and endangering the public matter more if I mentioned he didn't have a drivers license?
One more question, what about Eddie Griffin makes this something you feel you need to defend so adamantly? he's dead. it's sad that someone passed but its also pretty damn angering that a man would do this again, putting other peoples lives in danger after getting caught so clearly and embarrassingly just a year ago.
I am only going to point out that there was nothing "accidental[]" about what you did. This thread was ~2 months and 32 pages deep and yet you had demonstrated no previous interest in it. But on the occasion of Eddie Griffin's death, you make your debut, dredging up the unsubstantiated masturbation allegation made by an interested party in a lawsuit against him. At least be honest about what you're up to.
you soooo really want this to be true don't you?
I pointed it out because as soon as I read the article on him crashing into a train while drunk I remembered back to the other story from a year ago. When I mentioned Eddie Griffin's death to another coworker the first thing she brought up was the porn drunk driving episode; It's not that tough a connection to make. If you are going to defend the act of Eddie Griffins repeated drunk driving and tell me that I should show more respect for his passing and not think about the repeated life-threatening (and eventually life-ending) move that he made well then I'm sorry, we are not going to agree.
Would my criticism of his drunk driving and endangering the public matter more if I mentioned he didn't have a drivers license?
One more question, what about Eddie Griffin makes this something you feel you need to defend so adamantly? he's dead. it's sad that someone passed but its also pretty damn angering that a man would do this again, putting other peoples lives in danger after getting caught so clearly and embarrassingly just a year ago.
Let's be clear about one more thing, after which I am not going to engage with you further: I have never "defended" Eddie Griffin or anybody else driving drunk.
so many bad looks in this fucking thread right now.
yeah, I thought this thread was about basketball? wtf people? get back on track. stop whining. RIP Eddie G, sucks that an NBA talent is dead. Let's not debate it any further.
Who's getting a 10 game package? Who got season tickets? Do we expect to see more trades by the end of summer? LA still not budging? Kobe gonna start crying again or is he just gonna shut up and play with whatever they give him? JO been signed yet? Who else is hanging out there?
yeah, still on the Griffin issue... sorry. I think the bad looks in this thread have come from folks that may not understand addiction fully. That said, I'm not a great writer, so I'm not gonna try to ramble on about Griffin/addiction/public perception, etc. here. I do encourage everyone in the thread to read this truehoop interview with Michael Ray Richardson, especially this part:
Q: Is there anything we can learn from this? A: In life, there are good days and bad days. All that matters is how you deal with the situation. No one in this world has a perfect life. You have to deal with that. You can't run and hide. I don't know what Eddie Griffin was facing. Maybe he had something else going on that he was trying to run and hide from. Maybe he had an anger management problem. Maybe he was going through different things. Maybe he just didn't know how to handle that, so he put himself in those situations. And once you get in those situations, nine of ten times something bad is going to happen. Unfortunately for him, he has no chance to react and learn.[/b] http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-27...-Addiction.html
as far as bringing up his past run-ins with the law and the details thereof, a freedarko quote serves nicely:
But, as has become painfully clear, his troubles dominated his life and ultimately consumed him, so perhaps it was appropriate (or at least accurate) that we fans were never allowed to see him another way... I???m frankly offended that the real cause of Griffin???s troubles is nowhere to be found???that he clearly suffered from mental illness. The tragic fact of his story is that, even with all of the financial advantages accorded an NBA player, Griffin couldn???t get the help he needed... The unwillingness of people to even discuss this issue in this case illustrates how far we as a society have to go in the way we deal with mental illness.
As a postscript, I want to make it clear that I???m not absolving Griffin of personal responsibility, but to some extent, blaming Eddie Griffin for not cleaning up his act and becoming a stand-up citizen is equivalent to asking someone with Parkinson???s if they could please stop twitching all the time.
yeah, still on the Griffin issue... sorry. I think the bad looks in this thread have come from folks that may not understand addiction fully. That said, I'm not a great writer, so I'm not gonna try to ramble on about Griffin/addiction/public perception, etc. here. I do encourage everyone in the thread to read this truehoop interview with Michael Ray Richardson, especially this part:
Q: Is there anything we can learn from this? A: In life, there are good days and bad days. All that matters is how you deal with the situation. No one in this world has a perfect life. You have to deal with that. You can't run and hide. I don't know what Eddie Griffin was facing. Maybe he had something else going on that he was trying to run and hide from. Maybe he had an anger management problem. Maybe he was going through different things. Maybe he just didn't know how to handle that, so he put himself in those situations. And once you get in those situations, nine of ten times something bad is going to happen. Unfortunately for him, he has no chance to react and learn.[/b] http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-27...-Addiction.html
as far as bringing up his past run-ins with the law and the details thereof, a freedarko quote serves nicely:
But, as has become painfully clear, his troubles dominated his life and ultimately consumed him, so perhaps it was appropriate (or at least accurate) that we fans were never allowed to see him another way... I???m frankly offended that the real cause of Griffin???s troubles is nowhere to be found???that he clearly suffered from mental illness. The tragic fact of his story is that, even with all of the financial advantages accorded an NBA player, Griffin couldn???t get the help he needed... The unwillingness of people to even discuss this issue in this case illustrates how far we as a society have to go in the way we deal with mental illness.
As a postscript, I want to make it clear that I???m not absolving Griffin of personal responsibility, but to some extent, blaming Eddie Griffin for not cleaning up his act and becoming a stand-up citizen is equivalent to asking someone with Parkinson???s if they could please stop twitching all the time.
I'm going to guess the part about understanding addiction is directed at me. I just want to say that although I do not fully understand addiction, I have been attending al-anon meetings for months now due to living with a lady who suffered from addiction and I'm quite aware of what may happen to the person. yes its tragic that Eddie G. couldn't break away from the bottle and although he didn't seem to have control of that he did have control enough to get in a SUV and drive around creating danger for others, his repeated behavior of driving without a license and while intoxicated can't be blamed on the bottle, somewhere within all that is personal decision.
Anyways moving on. Lakers still ain't doing shit in the off season. I can smell the impending signing of Jermaine O'Neal but until its done ain't shit for me to talk on.
I'm going to guess the part about understanding addiction is directed at me.
It's directed at anyone in this thread who practiced poor taste in bringing up Griffin's troubled past, instead of focusing on the tragedy that recently occurred. It wasn't directed at you specifically, but if you feel it applies to you, then so be it.
And yes- the Lakers are exceedingly motionless this summer outside of moving Smush, which was a good look on their part. I'm not so sure they will land J.O., there is a limit to what Buss & co. will pay in luxury tax, and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
There's a severe lack of true big men that can kill on both sides of the floor in the L right now, (queue "it's a changing game" rant) and after Phil retires, I doubt anyone will pick up the torch of running a full time triangle.
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
I'm going to guess the part about understanding addiction is directed at me.
It's directed at anyone in this thread who practiced poor taste in bringing up Griffin's troubled past, instead of focusing on the tragedy that recently occurred. It wasn't directed at you specifically, but if you feel it applies to you, then so be it.
And yes- the Lakers are exceedingly motionless this summer outside of moving Smush, which was a good look on their part. I'm not so sure they will land J.O., there is a limit to what Buss & co. will pay in luxury tax, and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
There's a severe lack of true big men that can kill on both sides of the floor in the L right now, (queue "it's a changing game" rant) and after Phil retires, I doubt anyone will pick up the torch of running a full time triangle.
J.O. would be "OK" in the triangle. Shaq-Kobe-Fisher-Horry-Fox set the precedent for triangle execution. It'll be hard for any group of guys to follow that up. Can we try to get Ben Wallace?
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
It may be time to change the phrase "true big man" to "classic big man"....I think the game has evolved to where a 6:10-7 footer can dominate a game without playing with his back to the basket.
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
Passing, spacing, and movement without the ball are CRUCIAL in the Triangle. I would even say that those things are more important than any individual's talent.
90% of people that play basketball, will somehow find a way to score. It's HOW the team gets the points that matters in the long-run.
Quality of wins is in direct proportion to the quality of team basketball.
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
It may be time to change the phrase "true big man" to "classic big man"....I think the game has evolved to where a 6:10-7 footer can dominate a game without playing with his back to the basket.
J.O. can play center on my team anytime.
Garnett is someone who plays both ways. Rasheed can Play both ways. Dwight Howard is "classic" example. If Dirk got his Paint game up, he would be bananas.
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
It may be time to change the phrase "true big man" to "classic big man"....I think the game has evolved to where a 6:10-7 footer can dominate a game without playing with his back to the basket.
J.O. can play center on my team anytime.
Garnett is someone who plays both ways. Rasheed can Play both ways. Dwight Howard is "classic" example. If Dirk got his Paint game up, he would be bananas.
Garnett is good.
Sheed is good, but he's always been in the right place at the right time. A case can be made that he was a reason why the Blazers and Pistons were Championship-caliber, but then again, you look at the amount of unselfish talent that they were loaded with.
Dwight Howard's name is the first one I thought about when I thought about "classic big man". His potential is sky high, but I haven't watched enough of him to critique. Prototypical center body, no doubt. But can we do work on the little things not on the stat sheet to take it Next Level?
Dirk, unless he worked on his post-up game this summer strenuously, will not be a typical big man. He's an enormous human being with a guard mentality. I think he'll always have that guard mentality.
I personally, would love Ben Wallace. He grabs boards like Dennis Rodman, swats like Dikembe, and can finish with thunder like Kenyon Martin. About the only thing he can't do is dribble, shoot from the charity stripe, and take J's off the dribble.
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
It may be time to change the phrase "true big man" to "classic big man"....I think the game has evolved to where a 6:10-7 footer can dominate a game without playing with his back to the basket.
J.O. can play center on my team anytime.
Garnett is someone who plays both ways. Rasheed can Play both ways. Dwight Howard is "classic" example. If Dirk got his Paint game up, he would be bananas.
Garnett is good.
Sheed is good, but he's always been in the right place at the right time. A case can be made that he was a reason why the Blazers and Pistons were Championship-caliber, but then again, you look at the amount of unselfish talent that they were loaded with.
Dwight Howard's name is the first one I thought about when I thought about "classic big man". His potential is sky high, but I haven't watched enough of him to critique. Prototypical center body, no doubt. But can we do work on the little things not on the stat sheet to take it Next Level?
Dirk, unless he worked on his post-up game this summer strenuously, will not be a typical big man. He's an enormous human being with a guard mentality. I think he'll always have that guard mentality.
Well thene again, look at Jordan who refined his turn around jumper at the latter part of his career. I think Dirk and his handlers who transformed him into the talent he's become should be able to expand his weapons. Dallas was lookin for Damp to provide the consitant Post Threat and it never came to fruition. Dirk should shoulder that responsability.IMO.
and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo. What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
It may be time to change the phrase "true big man" to "classic big man"....I think the game has evolved to where a 6:10-7 footer can dominate a game without playing with his back to the basket.
J.O. can play center on my team anytime.
Garnett is someone who plays both ways. Rasheed can Play both ways. Dwight Howard is "classic" example. If Dirk got his Paint game up, he would be bananas.
Garnett is good.
Sheed is good, but he's always been in the right place at the right time. A case can be made that he was a reason why the Blazers and Pistons were Championship-caliber, but then again, you look at the amount of unselfish talent that they were loaded with.
Dwight Howard's name is the first one I thought about when I thought about "classic big man". His potential is sky high, but I haven't watched enough of him to critique. Prototypical center body, no doubt. But can we do work on the little things not on the stat sheet to take it Next Level?
Dirk, unless he worked on his post-up game this summer strenuously, will not be a typical big man. He's an enormous human being with a guard mentality. I think he'll always have that guard mentality.
Well thene again, look at Jordan who refined his turn around jumper at the latter part of his career. I think Dirk and his handlers who transformed him into the talent he's become should be able to expand his weapons. Dallas was lookin for Damp to provide the consitant Post Threat and it never came to fruition. Dirk should shoulder that responsability.IMO.
No doubt, you are right. I think it all comes down to whether a player has the faculties to make changes in their game. Not many players can make significant changes to their game, that's why there's very few "great" players I suppose.
MY DUDES, USA'S FIRST GAME AGAINST VENEZUELA ON ESPN CLASSIC RIGHT NOW.
Lebron/Chauncey/Tayshaun/Amare/M.Redd on the floor right now. The score is 48-23 with 2 minutes left in the 2nd. CHAUNCEY/TAYSHAUN = AN EXCELLENT LOOK.
MY DUDES, USA'S FIRST GAME AGAINST VENEZUELA ON ESPN CLASSIC RIGHT NOW.
Lebron/Chauncey/Tayshaun/Amare/M.Redd on the floor right now. The score is 48-23 with 2 minutes left in the 2nd. CHAUNCEY/TAYSHAUN = AN EXCELLENT LOOK.
Every year they try to say this the team that finally brings back Olympic Glory. Ive given up on Team Usa.
But, this is Kobe's first crack at it at the pro level,though.
MY DUDES, USA'S FIRST GAME AGAINST VENEZUELA ON ESPN CLASSIC RIGHT NOW.
Lebron/Chauncey/Tayshaun/Amare/M.Redd on the floor right now. The score is 48-23 with 2 minutes left in the 2nd. CHAUNCEY/TAYSHAUN = AN EXCELLENT LOOK.
Every year they try to say this the team that finally brings back Olympic Glory. Ive given up on Team Usa.
But, this is Kobe's first crack at it at the pro level,though.
They've had duds on that International team for the past 5 years. I can almost guarantee you that the announcers are gonna be raving about this team after 2 more games.
Mike Miller = Christian Laetner of 07. He is diluting the talent pool.
Melo is a terrific scorer, but his basketball IQ ain't that high. Which means, less synergy for the overall team. Mark my words, he will never win a ring.
Mike Miller = Christian Laetner of 07. He is diluting the talent pool.
bullshit! man mike miller can play, and you can never have enough shooters for international ball
As if this team can't score. I'm sorry him and several others are taking away from an otherwise modern-day Dream Team.
this is exactly why we lose. dudes want 15 dudes who can take it off the dribble and score 40 pts. IT DOESNT WORK. WE WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER DREAM TEAM - THE WORLD HAS CAUGHT UP. Miller will take a backseat to the "stars" and just stay on the perimeter.
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Acknowledge the core of the argument. Bye.
C'mon now kiddo, you're fuckin around with grown folks in here.
you soooo really want this to be true don't you?
I pointed it out because as soon as I read the article on him crashing into a train while drunk I remembered back to the other story from a year ago. When I mentioned Eddie Griffin's death to another coworker the first thing she brought up was the porn drunk driving episode; It's not that tough a connection to make. If you are going to defend the act of Eddie Griffins repeated drunk driving and tell me that I should show more respect for his passing and not think about the repeated life-threatening (and eventually life-ending) move that he made well then I'm sorry, we are not going to agree.
Would my criticism of his drunk driving and endangering the public matter more if I mentioned he didn't have a drivers license?
One more question, what about Eddie Griffin makes this something you feel you need to defend so adamantly? he's dead. it's sad that someone passed but its also pretty damn angering that a man would do this again, putting other peoples lives in danger after getting caught so clearly and embarrassingly just a year ago.
Let's be clear about one more thing, after which I am not going to engage with you further: I have never "defended" Eddie Griffin or anybody else driving drunk.
yeah, I thought this thread was about basketball? wtf people? get back on track. stop whining. RIP Eddie G, sucks that an NBA talent is dead. Let's not debate it any further.
Who's getting a 10 game package? Who got season tickets? Do we expect to see more trades by the end of summer? LA still not budging? Kobe gonna start crying again or is he just gonna shut up and play with whatever they give him? JO been signed yet? Who else is hanging out there?
I think the bad looks in this thread have come from folks that may not understand addiction fully. That said, I'm not a great writer, so I'm not gonna try to ramble on about Griffin/addiction/public perception, etc. here. I do encourage everyone in the thread to read this truehoop interview with Michael Ray Richardson, especially this part:
as far as bringing up his past run-ins with the law and the details thereof, a freedarko quote serves nicely:
I'm going to guess the part about understanding addiction is directed at me. I just want to say that although I do not fully understand addiction, I have been attending al-anon meetings for months now due to living with a lady who suffered from addiction and I'm quite aware of what may happen to the person. yes its tragic that Eddie G. couldn't break away from the bottle and although he didn't seem to have control of that he did have control enough to get in a SUV and drive around creating danger for others, his repeated behavior of driving without a license and while intoxicated can't be blamed on the bottle, somewhere within all that is personal decision.
Anyways moving on. Lakers still ain't doing shit in the off season. I can smell the impending signing of Jermaine O'Neal but until its done ain't shit for me to talk on.
And yes- the Lakers are exceedingly motionless this summer outside of moving Smush, which was a good look on their part. I'm not so sure they will land J.O., there is a limit to what Buss & co. will pay in luxury tax, and J.O., although he could get the money elsewhere isn't gonna get paid like that in LA... He's not a true big man, and although skilled on both ends of the floor, I don't think he would fit in as well as the LA Times writers think he would in the triangle.
There's a severe lack of true big men that can kill on both sides of the floor in the L right now, (queue "it's a changing game" rant) and after Phil retires, I doubt anyone will pick up the torch of running a full time triangle.
But I disagree w/ the true big man thing. In this day of perimeter 4s, he still has a reliable post up game/elbow jumper/Rebounds/Blocks like a mofo.
What else does he have to do to be a "big Man", Sky Hook?
J.O. would be "OK" in the triangle. Shaq-Kobe-Fisher-Horry-Fox set the precedent for triangle execution. It'll be hard for any group of guys to follow that up. Can we try to get Ben Wallace?
It may be time to change the phrase "true big man" to "classic big man"....I think the game has evolved to where a 6:10-7 footer can dominate a game without playing with his back to the basket.
J.O. can play center on my team anytime.
Passing, spacing, and movement without the ball are CRUCIAL in the Triangle. I would even say that those things are more important than any individual's talent.
90% of people that play basketball, will somehow find a way to score. It's HOW the team gets the points that matters in the long-run.
Quality of wins is in direct proportion to the quality of team basketball.
Science.
Garnett is someone who plays both ways. Rasheed can Play both ways.
Dwight Howard is "classic" example. If Dirk got his Paint game up, he would be bananas.
Garnett is good.
Sheed is good, but he's always been in the right place at the right time. A case can be made that he was a reason why the Blazers and Pistons were Championship-caliber, but then again, you look at the amount of unselfish talent that they were loaded with.
Dwight Howard's name is the first one I thought about when I thought about "classic big man". His potential is sky high, but I haven't watched enough of him to critique. Prototypical center body, no doubt. But can we do work on the little things not on the stat sheet to take it Next Level?
Dirk, unless he worked on his post-up game this summer strenuously, will not be a typical big man. He's an enormous human being with a guard mentality. I think he'll always have that guard mentality.
I personally, would love Ben Wallace. He grabs boards like Dennis Rodman, swats like Dikembe, and can finish with thunder like Kenyon Martin. About the only thing he can't do is dribble, shoot from the charity stripe, and take J's off the dribble.
Well thene again, look at Jordan who refined his turn around jumper at the latter part of his career. I think Dirk and his handlers who transformed him into the talent he's become should be able to expand his weapons.
Dallas was lookin for Damp to provide the consitant Post Threat and it never came to fruition. Dirk should shoulder that responsability.IMO.
No doubt, you are right. I think it all comes down to whether a player has the faculties to make changes in their game. Not many players can make significant changes to their game, that's why there's very few "great" players I suppose.
Lebron/Chauncey/Tayshaun/Amare/M.Redd on the floor right now. The score is 48-23 with 2 minutes left in the 2nd. CHAUNCEY/TAYSHAUN = AN EXCELLENT LOOK.
Every year they try to say this the team that finally brings back Olympic Glory.
Ive given up on Team Usa.
But, this is Kobe's first crack at it at the pro level,though.
They've had duds on that International team for the past 5 years. I can almost guarantee you that the announcers are gonna be raving about this team after 2 more games.
Mike Miller = Christian Laetner of 07. He is diluting the talent pool.
bullshit! man mike miller can play, and you can never have enough shooters for international ball
As if this team can't score. I'm sorry him and several others are taking away from an otherwise modern-day Dream Team.
I saw Smush at a women's basketball game uptown the weekend before last. I was impressed that he came out and showed love.
Smush is a good dude.
Melo is a terrific scorer, but his basketball IQ ain't that high. Which means, less synergy for the overall team. Mark my words, he will never win a ring.
this is exactly why we lose. dudes want 15 dudes who can take it off the dribble and score 40 pts.
IT DOESNT WORK. WE WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER DREAM TEAM - THE WORLD HAS CAUGHT UP.
Miller will take a backseat to the "stars" and just stay on the perimeter.