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  • anyways............ Someone tell me what's up with the ending to Dirty Ho?

    I watched it last night. Great flick, but it just ends. What happens once he gets in the meeting? Who does pop pick? What happens to 4th prince?

    Is there a part two to this or what? That ending got me fiending for a part two.



    SPOILER AHEAD...


    Basically the prince (Gordon Liu) was just using Wang Yu the whole time.
    He conned the conman so to speak.
    And at the end he simply no longer needed him, so...... to the curb!!
    By that point Wang Yu really thought they were friends too.
    Kinda fucked up but that's what's really up.
    Re: what happens, I think it's safe to say that Gordon got the gig, while Wang Yu probably went back to being a small time con.

    Liu Chia Liang was unique among kung fu directors in that a lot of his films were unconventional in their storytelling approach.
    He did another flick called "Shaolin Mantis" where (spoiler again) the entire film was told from the perspective of the villain as a sympathetic hero.
    So at the end of the movie when the guy dies, you really do feel bad for dude, but then you're like, hold up, he was a Ching traitor. Fuck that!

    A lot of kung fu movies (but Shaw flicks in particular) do tend to have very abrupt endings.
    And that can be a bit jarring for those not used to it.
    But the second the story is done, boom, "THE END".
    No need for formalities.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts


    Basically the prince (Gordon Liu) was just using Wang Yu the whole time.
    He conned the conman so to speak.
    And at the end he simply no longer needed him, so...... to the curb!!
    By that point Wang Yu really thought they were friends too.
    Kinda fucked up but that's what's really up.
    Re: what happens, I think it's safe to say that Gordon got the gig, while Wang Yu probably went back to being a small time con.


    I remember the neding being open ended, but not that Gordon was using Wang Yu. I thought the plot point of the 4th prince was of less importance because the real story was about Ho & his development from crook to student. If it seems that Ho gets dissed, it's more like on some master & subordinant ish than a betrayal. I haven't seen the celestial DVD, just the OG subbed print in the theater. Maybe different verisons convey different meanings.

  • Can anyone ID a film for me? There is a fight on peoples heads like the fight(s) on top of the poles in "master of the fatal flying gullitione" and the fight on top of the swords in "heven and hell"? Ive seen the scene a couple times but never the whole film. anyway thanks for the in this thread i disccovered a couple new flicks. oh yeah does anyone else like "zoo warriors of majic mountain"?

  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts
    There is a scene in Jet Li's Fong Sai Yuk I or II (I have no idea what the names of these films are in the U.S.) where he is fighting on a stage with a large crowd down below. The fight moves off the stage and Jet Li and the dude he is fighting are running all over the top of the crowd.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,899 Posts
    It's in the first one. I use to love that movie as a youngin'

    I believe the North America title is The Legend







    Fong Sai-Yuk - Who are you?
    Mother Fong - I'm your mother.
    Fong Sai-Yuk - Wow. Mom! You look just like a man!
    Mother Fong - Yeah, and I just won Tiger Lu's daughter's hand in marriage.
    Fong Sai-Yuk - Does Dad know?
    Mother Fong - Nooo



  • thats it. thanks!

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Recent movies i've watched were
    Five Fingers Of Death(This was my 1st time seeing this flick it was awesome)
    Jet Li's Fearless.
    And next up will be "Leg Fighters" aka "Invincible Kung Fu Legs"
    I'm in Kung Fu heaven right now.


  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    Recent flicks:

    The Lady Hermit
    The Long Chase
    The Secret Rivals
    Tai Chi Master

    On deck:

    Holy Flame Of The Martial World

    peace

    h

  • On deck:

    Holy Flame Of The Martial World





    You know you've got a bunch of heads over at the other board expecting to hear your thoughts on this one as soon as you've seen it.


    Others in more or less the same vein:

    Lady Assassin
    Long Road To Gallantry
    Bastard Swordsman 1 & 2
    New Tales of the Flying Fox
    Secret Service of the Imperial Court

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    I just watched "The Magic Blade"

    Here's some great quotables

    "I PRACTICED 20 YEARS TO MOVE THE NERVE CENTERS IN BODY JUST ONE INCH SO THEN YOUR PARALYZING BLOW HAD NO EFFECT"

    "You see the realm of swordplay is like a state and there can be only one ruler you or me, me.. or ...you.

    Right but still"


    "How did you know i didn't die?

    have you forgotten? your life is mine
    no one can kill you except for me and if i didn't kill you couldn't be dead"

    This film is a truly experience.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    I'm downloading "Clans of Intrigue",i'm at 86% and there are no seeders on today i hope it isnt dead.




  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    I need some new recommendations.
    Here's a list of what i've seen so far.
    The * denotes the ones i was impressed with
    So you can get an idea about what types of kung fu movies work for me.

    1. Avenging Eagle.
    2. Rendezvous With Death.*
    3. 5 Venoms.
    4. Chinese Super Ninjas.
    5. One-Armed Swordsman.
    6. Hell's Windstaff.
    7. Fistful Of Talons.
    8. Fist Of The White Lotus.
    9. Human Lanterns.
    10.Executioners Of Shaolin.
    11.Deadly Breaking Sword.
    12.Magic Blade.*
    13.The Master/3 Evil Masters.*
    14.Killer Constable.*
    15.Crippled Avengers.
    16.Iron Monkey(77).*
    17.Warriors Two.*
    18.Prodigal Son.*
    19.Shaolin Intruders.*
    20.Shaolin Prince.
    21.Shaolin Vs Lama.*
    22.Shaolin Rescuers.
    23.Shaolin Monk.
    24.Shaolin Traitorous.
    25.Invincible Shaolin.
    26.5 Fighters From Shaolin.
    27.War Of The Shaolin Temple.
    28.Shaolin & Wu Tang.
    29.36th Chamber of Shaolin.*
    30.Return To the 36th Chamber.
    31.Ninja Hunter.
    32.Ninja In a Deadly Trap.
    33.Leg Fighters.
    34.Fatal Needles Vs Fatal Fists.
    35.7 Grandmasters.
    36.Invincible Armour.*
    37.Secret Rivals.
    38.Duel To The Death.
    39.Eight Diagram Pole Fighter.*
    40.Five Fingers of Death.*
    41.Kid With The Golden Arms.*
    42.Chinatown Kid.
    43.Sleeping Fist.
    44.Buddhist Fist.
    45.Killer Army.
    46.Knockabout.
    47.Drunken Master.
    48.World Of The Drunken Master.
    49.Mystery Of Chessboxing.
    50.Blood Child.
    51.Fist Of Legend.
    52.Legend/Fong Sai Yuk.
    53.Hero.
    54.Dragon's Inn.
    55.Iron Monkey.*
    56.Fearless.*
    57.Water Margin.
    58.Battle Wizard.
    59.House Of Flying Daggers.
    60.Street Fighter.
    61.King Of Fists And Dollars/Challenge Of The Shaolin Disciples.
    62.Last Hurrah For Chivalry.
    63.Master of The Flying Guillotine.
    64.Ninja In ThE Dragon's Den.
    65.Born Invincible.*
    66.The Hot The Cool And The Vicious.
    67.Clans Of Intrigue.


    Titles i'm thinking about buying

    Eagle's Claw.
    Legendary weapons of china.
    Eighteen Jade Arhats.
    Hit Man In The Hand Of Buddha.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts

    Legendary weapons of china.

    Pretty excellent. The first time I saw it I didn't know jack about Spiritual Boxing, but I've checked it out since & really enjoyed it. If you liked 8 diagram pole fighter, then you'll dig this.

    I recommend Prides Deadly Fury, if you haven't seen it. It has a real strong connection to Fearless. And the fighting is excellent.

    peace

    h

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Haz please give me more than just one title to work with.
    Free up the info man.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    Haz please give me more than just one title to work with.
    Free up the info man.

    Okay, here's 10 movies that you might dig, given the movies that you've posted about:

    1) Burning Paradise
    2) The Blade
    3) Last Hero In China - Wong Jing madness
    4) The Tai Chi Master
    5) Buddah's Palm
    6) Yellow River Fighter - A MUST!!!
    7) The Sword w/ Adam Cheng
    8) Deadend of Besiegers
    9) Dirty Tiger, Crazy Frog
    10) King Eagle


    And I'd aslo have to recommend the 1st Fong Sai Yuk. There's a ton of Jackie Chan to check out, but you say you'ree not a fan.

    Hope this helps!

    peace

    h

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Haz please give me more than just one title to work with.
    Free up the info man.

    Okay, here's 10 movies that you might dig, given the movies that you've posted about:

    1) Burning Paradise
    2) The Blade
    3) Last Hero In China - Wong Jing madness
    4) The Tai Chi Master
    5) Buddah's Palm
    6) Yellow River Fighter - A MUST!!!
    7) The Sword w/ Adam Cheng
    8) Deadend of Besiegers
    9) Dirty Tiger, Crazy Frog
    10) King Eagle


    And I'd aslo have to recommend the 1st Fong Sai Yuk. There's a ton of Jackie Chan to check out, but you say you'ree not a fan.

    Hope this helps!

    peace

    h

    My rental spot here has "Dirty Tiger, Crazy Frog" i should give a watch then.
    I can overlook the comedy if the action is mind blowin' in most cases
    but i really dont like kung fu comedys for the most part.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts



  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Yo Haz i'm downloading "Secret Service Of The Imperial Court" have you seen it is it any good?



  • Ahh, "Gangmaster".
    I've waited over 20 years to see this flick looking this good.

    Now if they'd finally put out "To Kill a Mastermind" I could die in peace.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,899 Posts
    Hey Paul...

    How come when I see this, I think of you?



  • Hotness!

    In the spirit of things...


  • good old cabbage punching

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Ok it's official "Flag Of Iron" is my favourite venoms movie i've seen so far.

    I also recently acquired these bootlegs.

    Masked Avengers.
    Ten Tigers Of Kwangtung.
    Shaolin Ex Monk.
    Two Great Cavaliers.
    Five Super Fighters.

    I've only watched 10 tigers and Masked Avengers do far
    There's a new spot i just discovered here that sells burned copys of the boots for 200JA $'s($2.98US)
    Basically it's a roadside vendor setup,i never realized that they carried the old kung fu classics i thought it just was the new hollywood bootlegs that they sold.
    I'll be supporting these youts entrepreneurial ventures.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    My "Dirty Ho" download has been stuck at 94% for the last 4 hrs.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    I just finished watching "Five Super Fighters" the fighting was real hype!
    I noticed the piano loop used by Masters Of Illusion's - "Call the national guard" i'm figuring its from a library record source.
    Anyone know which record was used i know, i know



    Paul Nice i know you know,PM me with the answer if you dont wanna blow it up on the board.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    There's another movie on the disc "My Kung Fu Twelve Kicks" two for the price of one
    I'm loving this.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    I just finished watching "Five Super Fighters"

    This is due out soon by celestial. I think I might have to pick it up.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Do it, non stop action you wont regret it.
    The version i got is full screened even with some of the action cutting off on screen
    i was still impresssed.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    Just finished the director's cut of "Fearless". If you liked the movie, you HAVE to see the director's cut. Its a totally different film. Excellent.

  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    I'm resurrecting this thread its been dormant for too long.

    I'm recommending "The South Shaolin Master" the action in it was intense and realistic.
    Also i watched two other stellar films "The lady Assassin" the action in this can only be described as hyperkinetic i've never seen anything close to this before.
    And "The Kung-Fu Instructor" was a really good film i prefer the pole fighting in this more that "8 Diagram Pole Fighters"

    A small question to Paul Nice or anyone that can answer it.
    Which venom's film is it that Lu Feng gets his back broken? i've seen the clip in a
    Tribute vid for him on youtube.
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