Sorry, but your canadian hockey references are lost on me, as would be any hockey references would be to most Black Americans.
That's the point. You do the same thing about music. You'll talk about the local black experience of laffy taffy like we know what you're talking about & act surprised when people who aren't from where you are don't get it.
Sorry, but your canadian hockey references are lost on me, as would be any hockey references would be to most Black Americans.
That's the point. You do the same thing about music. You'll talk about the local black experience of laffy taffy like we know what you're talking about & act surprised when people who aren't from where you are don't get it.
Laughable. I'm never surprised by the ignorance on this board, save for a few posts here and there.
I explain it in a manner that gives insight to someone that hasn't seen it first hand. If you've never seen what I was referring to in person when I gave my local Black Laffy Taffy experience, I definitely let you in one something that you wouldn't have normally been privy to. It's funny that you can hate on me for that, but yet agree with Young Phonics with his local Latino Return of the Mack experience.
And a comparison of UGK to 2nd II None makes talking to you irrelevant.
you see, 2nd II none still gets love in LA. I'm talking a decade plus after all was said and done 2nd II none still hits on the radio and I've heard it in a club in the last year.
Bottom line its all regional. UGK may be legneds in TX, and other parts of the south. But, accoring to this thread, they aren't hitting nationwide
Sorry, but your canadian hockey references are lost on me, as would be any hockey references would be to most Black Americans.
That's the point. You do the same thing about music. You'll talk about the local black experience of laffy taffy like we know what you're talking about & act surprised when people who aren't from where you are don't get it.
Laughable. I'm never surprised by the ignorance on this board, save for a few posts here and there.
I explain it in a manner that gives insight to someone that hasn't seen it first hand. If you've never seen what I was referring to in person when I gave my local Black Laffy Taffy experience, I definitely let you in one something that you wouldn't have normally been privy to. It's funny that you can hate on me for that, but yet agree with Young Phonics with his local Latino Return of the Mack experience.
Take your hate goggles off.
That's right. And I liked that laffy taffy post. I don't hate on you at all for that. I appriciate that. Now when I hear Laffy Taffy I think of a room fully of people moving from one side of the room to the other. And you did that. And I'm glad that I read that post because I like that image. It opened me up to something I haven't experienced first hand. But people don't do that often enough. Instead of letting people in on what's happening in their world, they get defensive, aggro & go off.
That's the point. You do the same thing about music. You'll talk about the local black experience of laffy taffy like we know what you're talking about & act surprised when people who aren't from where you are don't get it.
the difference would be that this is a message board about (mostly) black american music and not about whatever canadians do.
And there you go. Personally, shit like this is alwaaaaays more entertaining than a bunch of hut huggers slapping each other on the ass and high-fiving over shit that will be passe in a few years. Is that a bandwagon I hear approaching? Hey fellas! Lets jump on!
SALTY!
How dare I be so rude?
at best.
At best.
And all of this talk of bandwagons and things that will be passe in a few years might bring dudes some comfort as they huddle in their private mindgardens longing for a return to the days of boom-bap, but it has zero basis in reality. It may be new to some of the people on SoulStrut, but it's not new to a lot of people in the real world. UGK has been making quality music for a decade and a half--what the f**k else do you want?
Hommy:
Not trying to deny Bun's skills, but dude is irrelevant out here.
it's funny you say that though, becuase one of the first places I ever heard UGK was on an old ass DJ Apollo mixtape.
i won't argue their influence,importance and place in history... but..legends are known by all/accepted by the majority.......Scarface= legend.......UGK = very important rappers
The fact that you had not heard of UGK before last year speaks more of you than of them.
UGK are well-known to many, many hip-hop fans and artists. I don't think their status as legends is really in question except on the internet.
Ha I can't believe this is still going. I had to jet right after my post, but I had to chime back in and say that that's a real dumb comment to make right there. You sound like a teenager in the playground arguing over who lost his virginity first. Pathetic.
I suppose that the fact that you didn't cop all those jazz, gospel and latin records that you floss regularly, when they first came out, that speaks volumes of you too?
Why would I cop that lp in 96 (or whenever it dropped)? Over here nothing off that would have been played on either the radio or in clubs, and definitely not sold in any of the record shops I went into. I didn't have the internet then, and even so, it probably wasn't getting much shine there either.
It's not that southern rap wasn't available in the UK at all - you could always get hold of and hear Outkast, Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, Scarface, etc. I guess the cream rises to the top?
I would be interested to see how many of the riders on here, jocking it copped it first week of release. If so - well done, now crack on and get that local black experience??? membership card stamped...
Dudes on here (and the internet in general) are always mythologizing marginal stuff - it's the lifeblood of specialist sites like this. Question is, why does it get you knickers in such a twist? Do you feel insignificant or ridiculous if you aren't at the forefront of all the latest trends?
It's not that southern rap wasn't available in the UK at all - you could always get hold of and hear Outkast, Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, Scarface, etc. I guess the cream rises to the top?
According to this, there haven't been any good UK hip hop artists since Slick Rick, who was in fact was transplanted. So basically there have never been any good UK hip hop artists. dope.
It's not that southern rap wasn't available in the UK at all - you could always get hold of and hear Outkast, Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, Scarface, etc. I guess the cream rises to the top?
According to this, there haven't been any good UK hip hop artists since Slick Rick, who was in fact was transplanted. So basically there have never been any good UK hip hop artists. dope.
Thanks for that admission.
Maybe not. But I'm not the one who's throwing a tantrum about dudes not recognising a moderately significant artist as a legend. Can I just set it straight right here that I'm not in any way downplaying Bun B's or UGK's talent, what I've heard is dope, I'm just saying that perhaps they aren't as important as a small handful of folks here seem to think they are.
Also, I don't doubt that on a global scale there are no truly significant UK rappers, but that's not to say that they aren't well regarded in the kind of regional circles that champion them. Ha, that means that UGK is the Hijack of the south and Cappo is to Notts what Bun B is to TX (JOKE, sort of...).
Get over yourself, deal with the fact that the world doesn't care as much about Bun B as you clearly do.
The fact that you had not heard of UGK before last year speaks more of you than of them.
UGK are well-known to many, many hip-hop fans and artists. I don't think their status as legends is really in question except on the internet.
Ha I can't believe this is still going. I had to jet right after my post, but I had to chime back in and say that that's a real dumb comment to make right there. You sound like a teenager in the playground arguing over who lost his virginity first. Pathetic.
I suppose that the fact that you didn't cop all those jazz, gospel and latin records that you floss regularly, when they first came out, that speaks volumes of you too?
Why would I cop that lp in 96 (or whenever it dropped)? Over here nothing off that would have been played on either the radio or in clubs, and definitely not sold in any of the record shops I went into. I didn't have the internet then, and even so, it probably wasn't getting much shine there either.
It's not that southern rap wasn't available in the UK at all - you could always get hold of and hear Outkast, Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, Scarface, etc. I guess the cream rises to the top?
I would be interested to see how many of the riders on here, jocking it copped it first week of release. If so - well done, now crack on and get that local black experience??? membership card stamped...
Dudes on here (and the internet in general) are always mythologizing marginal stuff - it's the lifeblood of specialist sites like this. Question is, why does it get you knickers in such a twist? Do you feel insignificant or ridiculous if you aren't at the forefront of all the latest trends?
Its really not that amazing homie. In Atlanta that was a big record. Most of my friends in high school had it.
Its really not that amazing homie. In Atlanta that was a big record. Most of my friends in high school had it.
No doubt man, but that's kind of my point. Shit's regional, but some dudes are finding it hard to grasp that it's just not that much of a staple joint.
Haha, I was making a very simple statement: you never heard of UGK, well of course you're going to say "what's the big deal?" You found out about them after the bloggers and the MTV2s of the world got up to speed, all that says is you're a bit spoonfed. Since when was "It was never on my local radio" an excuse for ignoring hip-hop groups? Lots of people however have known this group for some time, so that's all that was meant. By the looks of the drawn out posts here there are enough knotted knickers to go around!
I mean, you really don't have to take my opinion on this. You can ask your favorite rappers. All I've ever said in this thread is what I see from my vantage point, I could really give a fuck less if anyone else thinks UGK is legendary, but the amount to which people REFUSE to accept that is kind of startling.
Haha, I was making a very simple statement: you never heard of UGK, well of course you're going to say "what's the big deal?" You found out about them after the bloggers and the MTV2s of the world got up to speed, all that says is you're a bit spoonfed. Since when was "It was never on my local radio" an excuse for ignoring hip-hop groups? Lots of people however have known this group for some time, so that's all that was meant. By the looks of the drawn out posts here there are enough knotted knickers to go around!
I mean, you really don't have to take my opinion on this. You can ask your favorite rappers. All I've ever said in this thread is what I see from my vantage point, I could really give a fuck less if anyone else thinks UGK is legendary, but the amount to which people REFUSE to accept that is kind of startling.
Yeah, it's all good man. I'll just have to work on that sixth sense so I can be aware of a record that gets no exposure of any kind in the part of the world I'm in. Hopefully then I will be able to make autonomous decisions without relying on the nourishment of the spoon feeder.
Rakim never got any real radio or club play down here, aside from "Eric B for President". I could play that song in the club on Saturday and it will most assuredly fall flat when compared to "Let me see it" - UGK. Does that negate Rakim's "legendary" status?
The subtext of all the resistance in this thread seems to be that a rapper has to be from New York to be a legend.
Pathetic that anyone still thinks that way in 2006.
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Rakim never got any real radio or club play down here, aside from "Eric B for President". I could play that song in the club on Saturday and it will most assuredly fall flat when compared to "Let me see it" - UGK. Does that negate Rakim's "legendary" status?
The subtext of all the resistance in this thread seems to be that a rapper has to be from New York to be a legend.
Rakim never got any real radio or club play down here, aside from "Eric B for President". I could play that song in the club on Saturday and it will most assuredly fall flat when compared to "Let me see it" - UGK. Does that negate Rakim's "legendary" status?
The subtext of all the resistance in this thread seems to be that a rapper has to be from New York to be a legend.
Pathetic that anyone still thinks that way in 2006.
I think of it in basketball terms. Certain cats are Local Black Experience Legends, like Earl "the Goat". Just because he's not on tv or in the basketball hof, doesnt diminish his status to the game.
What is Natas' status with his demograph? There's a gang of cats who dont have national prominance who are seminal to certain regions/movements.
Rakim never got any real radio or club play down here, aside from "Eric B for President". I could play that song in the club on Saturday and it will most assuredly fall flat when compared to "Let me see it" - UGK. Does that negate Rakim's "legendary" status?
The subtext of all the resistance in this thread seems to be that a rapper has to be from New York to be a legend.
Pathetic that anyone still thinks that way in 2006.
I think the subtect is that a rapper, like superugly, should be KNOWED AROUND THE WORLD to be a legend.
Does anyone here dispute that Percee P is a hip hop "legend"?
Given his taste in hip hop, I doubt that Diamante_D would although Percee P barely got any serious radio/club play in his own market.
And when has radio/club play made anyone a legend? Is Skee-Lo a legend? Paperboy? The fuck?
Re-evaluate, people.
Naw, he's not a Legend, but doesn't mean he doesn't kill it. I agree with HAZBEEN on this, you gots to be internationally knowed to get into that particular special friends club.
Does anyone here dispute that Percee P is a hip hop "legend"?
Given his taste in hip hop, I doubt that Diamante_D would although Percee P barely got any serious radio/club play in his own market.
And when has radio/club play made anyone a legend? Is Skee-Lo a legend? Paperboy? The fuck?
Re-evaluate, people.
Naw, he's not a Legend, but doesn't mean he doesn't kill it. I agree with HAZBEEN on this, you gots to be internationally knowed to get into that particular special friends club.
Lloyd Banks? Chi-Ali? Group Home? (I bet a gang of people on here consider these cats legends)
Can anyone post a scan of any feature on UGK in a magazine before 2000 ? Or post radio playlists or tracklisting of mixtapes with their music ? Or post on Youtube any appearance on national TV ?
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That's the point. You do the same thing about music. You'll talk about the local black experience of laffy taffy like we know what you're talking about & act surprised when people who aren't from where you are don't get it.
Laughable. I'm never surprised by the ignorance on this board, save for a few posts here and there.
I explain it in a manner that gives insight to someone that hasn't seen it first hand. If you've never seen what I was referring to in person when I gave my local Black Laffy Taffy experience, I definitely let you in one something that you wouldn't have normally been privy to. It's funny that you can hate on me for that, but yet agree with Young Phonics with his local Latino Return of the Mack experience.
Take your hate goggles off.
you see, 2nd II none still gets love in LA. I'm talking a decade plus after all was said and done 2nd II none still hits on the radio and I've heard it in a club in the last year.
Bottom line its all regional. UGK may be legneds in TX, and other parts of the south. But, accoring to this thread, they aren't hitting nationwide
argument now settled. Lets move on
That's right. And I liked that laffy taffy post. I don't hate on you at all for that. I appriciate that. Now when I hear Laffy Taffy I think of a room fully of people moving from one side of the room to the other. And you did that. And I'm glad that I read that post because I like that image. It opened me up to something I haven't experienced first hand. But people don't do that often enough. Instead of letting people in on what's happening in their world, they get defensive, aggro & go off.
the difference would be that this is a message board about (mostly) black american music and not about whatever canadians do.
it's funny you say that though, becuase one of the first places I ever heard UGK was on an old ass DJ Apollo mixtape.
if thats the case, WC is a goddamn legend
i won't argue their influence,importance and place in history... but..legends are known by all/accepted by the majority.......Scarface= legend.......UGK = very important rappers
and for the record ....I AM A VERY BIG FAN OF UGK
Ha I can't believe this is still going. I had to jet right after my post, but I had to chime back in and say that that's a real dumb comment to make right there. You sound like a teenager in the playground arguing over who lost his virginity first. Pathetic.
I suppose that the fact that you didn't cop all those jazz, gospel and latin records that you floss regularly, when they first came out, that speaks volumes of you too?
Why would I cop that lp in 96 (or whenever it dropped)? Over here nothing off that would have been played on either the radio or in clubs, and definitely not sold in any of the record shops I went into. I didn't have the internet then, and even so, it probably wasn't getting much shine there either.
It's not that southern rap wasn't available in the UK at all - you could always get hold of and hear Outkast, Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, Scarface, etc. I guess the cream rises to the top?
I would be interested to see how many of the riders on here, jocking it copped it first week of release. If so - well done, now crack on and get that local black experience??? membership card stamped...
Dudes on here (and the internet in general) are always mythologizing marginal stuff - it's the lifeblood of specialist sites like this. Question is, why does it get you knickers in such a twist? Do you feel insignificant or ridiculous if you aren't at the forefront of all the latest trends?
According to this, there haven't been any good UK hip hop artists since Slick Rick, who was in fact was transplanted. So basically there have never been any good UK hip hop artists. dope.
Thanks for that admission.
Maybe not. But I'm not the one who's throwing a tantrum about dudes not recognising a moderately significant artist as a legend. Can I just set it straight right here that I'm not in any way downplaying Bun B's or UGK's talent, what I've heard is dope, I'm just saying that perhaps they aren't as important as a small handful of folks here seem to think they are.
Also, I don't doubt that on a global scale there are no truly significant UK rappers, but that's not to say that they aren't well regarded in the kind of regional circles that champion them. Ha, that means that UGK is the Hijack of the south and Cappo is to Notts what Bun B is to TX (JOKE, sort of...).
Get over yourself, deal with the fact that the world doesn't care as much about Bun B as you clearly do.
Its really not that amazing homie. In Atlanta that was a big record. Most of my friends in high school had it.
No doubt man, but that's kind of my point. Shit's regional, but some dudes are finding it hard to grasp that it's just not that much of a staple joint.
I mean, you really don't have to take my opinion on this. You can ask your favorite rappers. All I've ever said in this thread is what I see from my vantage point, I could really give a fuck less if anyone else thinks UGK is legendary, but the amount to which people REFUSE to accept that is kind of startling.
Yeah, it's all good man. I'll just have to work on that sixth sense so I can be aware of a record that gets no exposure of any kind in the part of the world I'm in. Hopefully then I will be able to make autonomous decisions without relying on the nourishment of the spoon feeder.
The subtext of all the resistance in this thread seems to be that a rapper has to be from New York to be a legend.
Pathetic that anyone still thinks that way in 2006.
As is Mac Dre.
Multicoastal local experience representation at it's finest.
Or the Bay Area!
I think of it in basketball terms. Certain cats are Local Black Experience Legends, like Earl "the Goat". Just because he's not on tv or in the basketball hof, doesnt diminish his status to the game.
What is Natas' status with his demograph? There's a gang of cats who dont have national prominance who are seminal to certain regions/movements.
Given his taste in hip hop, I doubt that Diamante_D would although Percee P barely got any serious radio/club play in his own market.
And when has radio/club play made anyone a legend? Is Skee-Lo a legend? Paperboy? The fuck?
Re-evaluate, people.
"legend" - Yes
Legend - No.
I think the subtect is that a rapper, like superugly, should be KNOWED AROUND THE WORLD to be a legend.
Naw, he's not a Legend, but doesn't mean he doesn't kill it. I agree with HAZBEEN on this, you gots to be internationally knowed to get into that particular special friends club.
Pathetic.
Sorry, but the acceptance of people outside of this country just isn't meaningful in this context.
Rap is Black American music.
Lloyd Banks?
Chi-Ali?
Group Home? (I bet a gang of people on here consider these cats legends)
List some names or your softserve baby doodoo.
And please make them all post 1990
Or post radio playlists or tracklisting of mixtapes with their music ?
Or post on Youtube any appearance on national TV ?