Is Baseball slowly dying?

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  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    rain103 said:

    Hey! That's what I have been saying.

  • batmon said:
    Game Over

    but not.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    vintageinfants said:
    batmon said:
    Game Over

    but not.

    people who stop caring when their team is out is how sports goes.

    Only in Baseball.

  • batmon said:
    vintageinfants said:
    batmon said:
    Game Over

    but not.

    people who stop caring when their team is out is how sports goes.

    Only in Baseball.

    It is true that fools watch the NBA finals and superbowl no matter what.

    But, really, is that based on any greater love for the game? Or just the bigger hype/commercial activity associated with those two championships vs. the WS?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    rootlesscosmo said:
    batmon said:
    vintageinfants said:
    batmon said:
    Game Over

    but not.

    people who stop caring when their team is out is how sports goes.

    Only in Baseball.

    It is true that fools watch the NBA finals and superbowl no matter what.

    But, really, is that based on any greater love for the game? Or just the bigger hype/commercial activity associated with those two championships vs. the WS?

    My Football buddies watch their team and other teams.
    My Baskeball buddies watch their teams and other teams.

    I dont have Baseball buddies.

  • BASEBALL IS DYING
    and other things people would like you to believe



    how many football and basketball leagues/teams have tanked/needed saving in the last two decades? how many baseball?

  • basketball is boring as shit.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    vintageinfants said:
    how many football and basketball leagues/teams have tanked/needed saving in the last two decades? how many baseball?




  • huh? there's a difference between "superstar-breathes-new-life-into-sucky-team" and "team-tanks-changes-name-and-leaves-town."

    plus how is LeBron a counterpoint to dude's argument? does he play baseball?

  • What's the opposite of "slowly dying"?

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/theres-a-big-five-in-north-american-pro-sports/

    WhatÔÇÖs the most popular North American professional team in any sport, as judged by Google search frequency globally?

    ItÔÇÖs either the New York Yankees or the Boston Red Sox. Each generates about 30 percent more Google searches worldwide than the most popular NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys, and almost 40 percent more than the most popular NBA team, the Los Angeles Lakers. You can skip down to the giant chart at the end of this blog post to see how all teams in the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB compare to one another.


  • The new 538 is on some seriously joyless bullshit.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

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  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    The Giants had the third-highest attendance in baseball last year, drawing 3.36 million to AT&T Park, despite posting a record of 76-86, the team's worst mark since 2008.

    http://www.forbes.com/teams/san-francisco-giants/

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    batmon said:

    Because fans would rather just check the stats on google.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Last year more people attended MLB games than the NBA, NHL, NFL and MLS combined!

  • 162 games vs 82/80/16.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    gareth said:
    162 games vs 82/80/16.

    Combined

    82/80/16 = 178

    And I have no clue how many games the MLS plays.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    please find the tv numbers

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    gareth said:
    162 games vs 82/80/16.

    mlb 162 games X 30 teams = 4860 Games Total Attendance 74,026,895
    nba 82X30 = 2460 17,100,861
    NFL 16x32 = 512 17,372,838
    NHL 82x30 = 2460 12,758,849
    Liga MX 14x18 = 252 8,495,000

    Numbers don't mean anything with out context.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    batmon said:
    please find the tv numbers

    You posted a clip about fans not GOING to the games.

    I proved that to be wrong.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Rockadelic said:
    batmon said:
    please find the tv numbers

    You posted a clip about fans not GOING to the games.

    I proved that to be wrong.

    It was specifically about Yankee stadium being empty earlier this week.
    The tickets were sold and it was empty.

    you brought up last years numbers which has nothing to do with this season.

  • batmon said:
    Rockadelic said:
    batmon said:
    please find the tv numbers

    You posted a clip about fans not GOING to the games.

    I proved that to be wrong.

    It was specifically about Yankee stadium being empty earlier this week.
    The tickets were sold and it was empty.

    you brought up last years numbers which has nothing to do with this season.

    Yankee Stadium being "empty" in one particular game early in April doesn't have a fuckload to do with a whole season, either.

    Hankee fans can't handle the cold.

    "Baseball is slowly dying." Yeah. So is the Sun.

    Both will outlive rap. Bummer, huh?

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    LaserWolf said:
    gareth said:
    162 games vs 82/80/16.

    mlb 162 games X 30 teams = 4860 Games Total Attendance 74,026,895
    nba 82X30 = 2460 17,100,861
    NFL 16x32 = 512 17,372,838
    NHL 82x30 = 2460 12,758,849
    Liga MX 14x18 = 252 8,495,000

    Numbers don't mean anything with out context.

    OK I will do the last bit of math for you all.
    NFL AAPG 34,000
    Liga MX AAPG 34,000
    MLB AAPG 15,000
    NBA AAPG 7,000
    NHL AAPG 5,000

    The only North American Major league sport that competes with the NFL in attendance is Liga MX.
    You will find the same with TV numbers.
    MLB is not even close.
    NBA and NHL are played in much smaller arenas, which limits their attendance #s.

    But the question is baseball dying slowly?
    If shown as a share of the market over time, the answer is yes.
    If the answer is, "some people still like it", then the answer is no.


  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    In defense of baseball, a typical game is about 3 hours long. Some fans choose to come late others choose to leave early, the effect is that attendance looks sparse. On top of that tickets are only sold for about half the ball park, so it is going to look sparse anyway.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I've argued some dumb shit on here but this has to take the cake.

    This idea that "baseball is dying" is one of the dumbest fuckall ideas I have ever heard.

    The MLB total revenue in 1995 was 1.5 billion dollars....last year it was over 8 billion and on target to hit 9 billion by next year.

    I could only hope that my bank account should die such a death.

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    I'm going to the game tonight, and so are 14 of my closest friends.

    My 2nd game this week.

    It will sell out just as the last 200 or whatever games at Pac Bell have.

    My liver will be slowly dying tmrw.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Rockadelic said:
    I've argued some dumb shit on here but this has to take the cake.

    This idea that "baseball is dying" is one of the dumbest fuckall ideas I have ever heard.

    The MLB total revenue in 1995 was 1.5 billion dollars....last year it was over 8 billion and on target to hit 9 billion by next year.

    I could only hope that my bank account should die such a death.

    The media has been addressing attendance and speeding up the game for a while.
    How is that not a concern as a fan?




    Is The Game Dead?

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    batmon said:
    Rockadelic said:
    I've argued some dumb shit on here but this has to take the cake.

    This idea that "baseball is dying" is one of the dumbest fuckall ideas I have ever heard.

    The MLB total revenue in 1995 was 1.5 billion dollars....last year it was over 8 billion and on target to hit 9 billion by next year.

    I could only hope that my bank account should die such a death.

    The media has been addressing attendance and speeding up the game for a while.
    How is that not a concern as a fan?




    Is The Game Dead?

    The Media is predicting that the NFL will be obsolete in 10 years.

    The Media has been predicting that Soccer is going to sweep the U.S. since the 70's.

    The Media, for the most part, is full of shit.

    400% growth in revenues over the last 20 years calls bullshit on anything the Media says.

    And believe this, the NYC perspective represents one thing...NYC.
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