If you had to put a label on the greatest American Rock 'N Roll band...

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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    David Lee Roth has an awesome Rock voice.

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    Sunfade said:


    Three Dog Night

    LOL

    And no to VU, Stooges, Melvins.

    I think mainstream appeal weighs in too much for GOAT unfortunately so these bands are out.


    vs


    and I'm stickin' to it.

  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.

    Yes.

    Funkadelic most definitely referred to themselves as a rock band, do your read ups.

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    Horseleech said:
    BallzDeep said:
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.

    Yes.

    Funkadelic most definitely referred to themselves as a rock band, do your read ups.

    I wonder then to whom the song "who says a funk band can't play rock" is referring.

  • SunfadeSunfade 799 Posts
    Steely Dan is not a rock band.

  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    Horseleech said:
    BallzDeep said:
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.

    Yes.

    Funkadelic most definitely referred to themselves as a rock band, do your read ups.

    I wonder then to whom the song "who says a funk band can't play rock" is referring.

    Parliament.

    Please stop with the nonsense.

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    Horseleech said:
    BallzDeep said:
    Horseleech said:
    BallzDeep said:
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.

    Yes.

    Funkadelic most definitely referred to themselves as a rock band, do your read ups.

    I wonder then to whom the song "who says a funk band can't play rock" is referring.

    Parliament.

    Please stop with the nonsense.

    Settle down, Francis. It's the internet.
    Do you file Funkadelic records under SOUL/FUNK/R&B or ROCK at Academy?

  • SunfadeSunfade 799 Posts
    Placing Van Halen in this is not fair.They were so good they are in a league of they're own. Same thing with Bruce.

    Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band...ftw

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.


  • Gotta give another vote to CCR. Love Hendrix or Tom Petty but consider them solo artists. The Dead belong in the discussion. GnR was the first band that came to mind. Always good to see ZZ Top getting some love. I even like their 80s stuff, the synths don't drown out those guitar solos. But that also could be nostalgia talking. Are CSN&Y too folky or Canadian?

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    Otis_Funkmeyer said:
    Gotta give another vote to CCR. Love Hendrix or Tom Petty but consider them solo artists. The Dead belong in the discussion. GnR was the first band that came to mind. Always good to see ZZ Top getting some love. I even like their 80s stuff, the synths don't drown out those guitar solos. But that also could be nostalgia talking. Are CSN&Y too folky or Canadian?

    CSN&Y? Didn't they only have one record together?
    And besides I wonder if they would even call themselves a rock band.

    GnR? No way jose. Only 3 records which mattered (really only one record lol). Not enough.

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Thanks everyone for showing restraint and sense by not mentioning Kiss.

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    EAGLES

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    MARSHALL TUCKER BAND
    COLLECTIVE SOUL
    TOAD THE WET SPROCKET

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,794 Posts
    Rockadelic said:
    I'm as big a Ramones fan as you'll find.....started seeing them live before their 1st LP was released.....but there is NO question they had a bigger impact in the UK than they did in the States.

    Must... resist...
    temptation....is...TOO STRONG...


    And that's why they're the best US rock'n'roll band.


    Paging Jnr.

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    Funkadelic is the greatest underrated rock band of all time...how are you gonna fuk wit the "Super Stupid" riff?

    I'm still voting for Van Halen as GOAT because of when they did it. I'm guessing it was easier to be a popular rock band in the late 60s and early 70s, because rock was the biggest thing in the world then. In the late 70s, it wasn't very cool to be a hard rock band, but they made it cool and changed the game. Eddie of course rewrote the guitar playing book, Dave created the best frontman the world had seen (save your Jim Dandy rants...Dave put a brain on it, made it infinitely better), Michael Anthony's harmonies were as tight as anything the Byrds and Beach Boys had done, the songs were pure hooks and the lyrics took Rock back to beginning...songs about chicks and good times...no message, no agenda. Best American Rock band.

  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,783 Posts
    70s era KISS is amazing ???. but their post 70s work is deplorable.

    Foo Fighters get an honarable mention.

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    It took an admirable number of pages, but the shark has been officially jumped.

  • Fred_GarvinFred_Garvin The land of wind and ghosts 337 Posts
    RAJ said:
    Foo Fighters get an honorable mention.
    Only for being champions in the ongoing fight against Foo.

  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,783 Posts
    skel said:
    It took an admirable number of pages, but the shark has been officially jumped.

    MARSHALL TUCKER BAND
    COLLECTIVE SOUL
    TOAD THE WET SPROCKET


  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,783 Posts
    Fred_Garvin said:
    RAJ said:
    Foo Fighters get an honorable mention.
    Only for being champions in the ongoing fight against Foo.

    I was never a huge fan until I saw the recent documentary on them.

    To me, they have it all. Great songs, musicianship, stage show, unique approach to recording, AND they have paid their dues.

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    One thing we can agree on(I think) the greatest era for rock(worldwide) had to be the first half of the 70s...the list of LPs you can compile is ridiculous, from the mainstream to the underground...just a few of my faves of the era:

    Alice Cooper "Love it to Death"
    Alice Cooper "Killer"
    Blue Oyster Cult s/t
    Blue Oyster Cult "Tyranny and Mutation"
    Blue Oyster Cult "Secret Treaties"
    Ramones S/T
    Dictators "Go Girl Crazy"
    Black Sabbath S/T
    Black Sabbath "Paranoid"
    Black Sabbath "Master of Reality"
    Black Sabbath "Vol 4"
    Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
    Lynyrd Skynyrd "Nothin' Fancy"
    Lynyrd Skynyrd "Pronounced..."
    Stooges "Funhouse"
    Iggy and the Stooges "Raw Power"
    Poobah "Let Me In"
    Funkadelic "Maggot Brain"
    Led Zeppelin S/T
    Led Zeppelin II
    Led Zeppelin III
    Led Zeppelin IV
    Led Zeppelin Houses of the Holy
    Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti
    Kiss "Hotter Than Hell"
    Kiss "Dressed to Kill"
    Kiss "Alive"
    James Gang "Rides Again"
    Grand Funk S/T
    Grand Funk "Closer to Home"
    MC5 "Back in the USA"
    MC5 "HIgh Time"
    Deep Purple "In Rock"
    Deep Purple "Fireball"
    Deep Purple "Machine Head"
    AC/DC "High Voltage"
    AC/DC "Dirty Deeds"
    ZZ Top "1st Album"
    ZZ Top "Rio Grande Mud"
    ZZ Top "Tres Hombres"
    Toad S/T
    Toad "Tomorrow Blue"
    Three Man Army S/T
    Three Man Army "Third of a Lifetime"
    Bang S/T
    Hawkwind "Space Ritual"
    Hawkwind "Hall of the Moutain Grill"
    Mountain "Climbling"
    Mountain "Nantucket Sleigh Ride"
    Pink Fairies "Never Neverland"
    Pink Fairies "What A Bunch of Sweeties"
    Pink Fairies "Kings of Oblivian"
    John Lennon "Plastic Ono Band"
    Pink Floyd "Meddle"
    David Bowie "The Man Who Saved The World"
    David Bowie "Ziggy Stardust"
    David Bowie "Hunky Dory"
    CCR "Cosmos Factory"
    CCR "Pendulum"
    New York Dolls S/T
    New York Dolls "Too Much Too Soon"
    Jerusalem S/T
    Tractor S/T
    Blue Cheer "The Original Human Being"

    lots more, but Im tired of typing

  • staxwaxstaxwax 1,474 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    You can't put Funkadelic and the Isleys in ROCK.
    I know they rocked out sometimes but they're funk/soul/r&b.
    Basically do you think they referred to themselves as ROCK bands?
    No.

    Funkadelic can definitely be classed as rock, more so than funk, imo. Isleys, not so much.




  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    The_Hook_Up said:
    One thing we can agree on(I think) the greatest era for rock(worldwide) had to be the first half of the 70s...the list of LPs you can compile is ridiculous, from the mainstream to the underground...just a few of my faves of the era:


    agreed and not even close

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    I think this has become private mind gardened enough for me to throw Big Star in.

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    staxwax said:





    I still say this is a funk band playing rock tho.
    I have to respectfully disagree.
    btw wow... this shit is so great.

    Foo Fighters? Interesting choice.
    I wouldn't say now, but when it's all said and done we will see where they stand.

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    staxwax said:





    I still say this is a funk band playing rock tho.
    I have to respectfully disagree.
    btw wow... this shit is so great.

    Foo Fighters? Interesting choice.
    I wouldn't say now, but when it's all said and done we will see where they stand.

    listen to the "Maggot Brain" LP, that is a rock LP, one of the greatest rock LPs evar. A drummer in the pocket does not automatically make a band "funk".
    what about this early version of Red Hot Momma?

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    Just the fact that there is debate whether they are Funk or Rock is something to think about.
    I'm pretty sure there's never been a debate whether or not VH are a rock band.
    Know what I mean?

    Even we we do classify Funkadelic as ROCK, they weren't popular enough to be GOAT. I think popularity is a huge factor.

    That said, Funkadelic is easily one of my favorite bands ever, more than just about any band discussed in this thread.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    Even we we do classify Funkadelic as ROCK, they weren't popular enough to be GOAT. I think popularity is a huge factor.

    They weren't popular with whife folks, you mean.

    Because in the hood in the mid-late 70s, the whole P-Funk empire may as well have been the black version of Kiss.
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