b,121what a pussy this guy is. "undecided" in October? fusking sack up Colin.
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b,121what a pussy this guy is. "undecided" in October? fusking sack up Colin.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121If this happens, it's all about timing, my friend. Pre-planned politics for powerful effect. It's worked so smoothly that we usually don't consider it, but think for a moment about how well the Obama campaign has been run so far; the organizers stay true to their brand, eschew a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/obama_passing_the_reagan_thres.html" target="_blank"1hail-marys/a1, and nail timing through historic ground campaigns and powerful know-how. It's all about a planned run-up.b,121b,121Keep in mind: The major news outlets are only now beginning to make their choices known (the [i]New Yorker/i1 has their call for Obama in a href="http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/10/13/081013taco_talk_editors" target="_blank"1their next issue./a1)b,121b,121Think about how well a timed-release Colin Powell speech would play: it would allow a respected man a modicum of redemption and would signal a clear change in U.S. policy. Despite his pitchman work for Bush's Iraq War gambit, Powell is still fairly popular to supporters of both parties.
b,121what a pussy this guy is. "undecided" in October? fusking sack up Colin.
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b,121If this happens, it's all about timing, my friend. Pre-planned politics for powerful effect. It's worked so smoothly that we usually don't consider it, but think for a moment about how well the Obama campaign has been run so far; the organizers stay true to their brand, eschew
b,121Think about how well a timed-release Colin Powell speech would play: it would allow a respected man a modicum of redemption and would signal a clear change in U.S. policy. Despite his pitchman work for Bush's Iraq War gambit, Powell is still fairly popular to supporters of both parties.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I concur. Obama has played this game very, very well. He's kept a cool head while McCain and his band of hacks has flailed wildly, losing ground all the way, and I think the Repubs are realizing that their goose is cooked. Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, who was fairly even-handed through most of the year has started shilling shamlessly for McCain.
font class="post"1b,121b,121To what extent will these matter? I expect to see most media outlets backing Obama but at this point in the game, it would just look like they're following the pack rather than leading it. b,121b,121In any case, the New Yorker backing Obama is about as surprising as Fox News coming out behind McCain.
Newsweek has a new cover story on Palin called the "Palin Problem." I only read the first half but basically it says the number one reason why Palin was picked by the McCain campaign was because they thought she'd be popular with the public. Otherwise, she doesn't really know anything (duh!). b,121b,121This brings me back to a line she had at the convention that I think got overlooked, but she was giving a reply about why McCain picked her, and the first thing she said was because she was a "mother." b,121b,121Her husband is a "joe sixpack," she's a "hockey mom," and therefore she should be vice president of the United States because Washington is a bad place and it needs "mavericks" like her and McCain to clean it up. This is what has become of American politics.b,121b,121Here's a link:b,121b,121a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/162396" target="_blank"1http://www.newsweek.com/id/162396/a1
I just watched 3 or 4 of those Hannity video. This is serious. b,121b,121Harvey Canal needs to watch this. He, like me, thought that Obama was a typical warmongeringwallstreetlovingmiddleoftheroad Democrat. But, now we know he believes the same stuff we do!b,121b,121Among other things we find out that Community Organizing is an attempt to overthrow the government by socialist. We also learn that Louis Farakkahn lives in Chicago, just like Obama!b,121b,121AS for Collin Powell, who cares? The left hates him because of his lies, the right hates him because he was disloyal. b,121b,121What Obama needs is someone with credibility with Republicans to endorse him. Maybe GHW Bush.
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b,121The outlandish lunatic left wing claims that the Right is trying to use to discredit Obama is what you actually really do support??
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font class="post"1b,121b,121I support socialism, community organizing, Black nationalism (meaning pride and economic independence) and other ideas that Fox News finds radical.
b,121To what extent will these matter? I expect to see most media outlets backing Obama but at this point in the game, it would just look like they're following the pack rather than leading it.
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b,121In any case, the New Yorker backing Obama is about as surprising as Fox News coming out behind McCain.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Well, it was just an example. I imagine that several other media outlets - some of which might actually be unpredictable - will be declaring for Obama soon.b,121b,121And I understand why groups from both sides would not like Gen. Powell. But he still remains an extremely likable man in general and would at least command a media talking point.b,121b,121This, in turn, would be countered predicably by posters in sundry internet comments sections offering insight such as "well, this = no surprise, 'cuz we all noe what they does 4 each other."b,121b,121God bless U.S. Americans.
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b,121During the course of his answer he stated that article I refers to the executive branch(it defines the legislative powers of congress). Stated that the VP is exclusively part of the executive branch(VP is mentioned in article's I and II - article II being the article which actually refers to the executive branch). Stated that cheney's idea that the VP is part of the legislative branch is a bizarre notion invented by cheney'(the article biden incorrectly cited as referring to the executive branch actually names the vp as the president of the senate and historically the vp has had no executive power, it is only in the last 70 years or so that the vp has been granted executive power by the sitting president).
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b,121OK Article I section 3 talks about the vp exercising the office of the POTUS. I don't know about you, but that sounds kinda executive to me. All other mentions of the vp emphasizes limited legislative powers for the vp. Article I talks about the senate election of a President pro tempore. PPT is the person who actually does the role of senate president, because the writers of the Constitution had no intention of allowing the vp to part of the legislative branch. The vps only connection to the Senate is when there are tie votes.
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b,121Section II begins by stating that the POTUS shall hold office with the VPOTUS who are elected together.
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b,121Yet you, and your intellectual hero Palin, believe that means that vp is both part of and separate from both branches of power.
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b,121I suggest you actually read the Constitution and not the Rush Limbaugh edited cliff notes before coming around here.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121When will you learn that you way too dumb to F*ck with dolo the honorable?b,121b,121I criticised biden for falsely referring to article I as being in reference to the executive branch, falsely stating that the duties of vice president resides solely in the executive branch, and for falsely criticising cheney's view that the vice president can be best thought of as having 'a foot in both branches' as a 'bizarre notion'.b,121b,121Your attempted rebuttal, as mangled as it is*, only confirms my criticisms in that it demonstrates that the VP is mentioned in both articles and it is only in article I, that referring to the legislative branch, in which ANY specific duties are outlined. b,121b,121* The president pro tempore is not the 'true' president of the senate. His role is exactly as the constitution describes it; to fill in for the absense of the vice president or when the vice president if filling in for the absense of the president(illness ect.) Pro tempore means "for the time being".b,121b,121*section I of article II(not section II of article I) begins by stating quite clearly "The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America". The next sentence describes that the pres and vp are elected by the same process and for the same time, not that they share executive power. The vice president wields only as much executive power as the president delegates to him.
I would like to put Giuliani and Palin on a rocketship towards the sun.b,121b,121"CAPO" can be tied outside like a f*cking dog. F*ck Capo. I would like to spit in his f*cking face.b,121b,121I can't wait until this is over.b,121b,121Why did "YOU PEOPLE" people give Dolo the unbanning?
b,121I would like to put Giuliani and Palin on a rocketship towards the sun.
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b,121"CAPO" can be tied outside like a f*cking dog. F*ck Capo. I would like to spit in his f*cking face.
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b,121I can't wait until this is over.
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Yeah I saw that which is why I posted again about my DEEP DEEP HATRED about him.b,121b,121Also, Palin with her "When I was the mayor..."b,121b,121PLEASE LEAVE.
Again, I present a sober, cogent, and CORRECT argument and all the cowards start crying.b,121b,121You dont hate dolo, you hate having your precious pieties crushed under the weight of reason and evidence dolo exposes them to.
Hah. "Reason."b,121b,121When your boy loses in 27 days will you leave for good? You contribute nothing to life.b,121b,121AGAIN - why is this prick still around? I never have asked for anyone to be banned but at LEAST, as much of a bitch Sabadabada wasm he talked about f*cking records. This little cunt brings nothing to the table. Did someone get soft and change their mind?
b,121When your boy loses in 27 days will you leave for good? You contribute nothing to life.
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b,121AGAIN - why is this prick still around? I never have asked for anyone to be banned but at LEAST, as much of a bitch Sabadabada wasm he talked about f*cking records. This little cunt brings nothing to the table. Did someone get soft and change their mind?
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font class="post"1b,121b,121I hate to defend the dude but he brings an opinion that's held by roughly 50% of our population. b,121b,121Is it really that painful to see how others think?b,121b,121Does it make you feel warm and fuzzy to only be around people who hold your same values/opinions??b,121b,121Isn't it an ultimate pussy move to eliminate anyone/everyone who doesn't agree with the majority here.b,121b,121By not contributing, don't you really mean not jumping on your bandwagon.
There's a huge difference between Dolo and Eli (Vitamin.) This dude is just trolling.b,121b,121PLUS - AGAIN: What does he contribute other than being the "sole voice of political dissent" in an antagonizing and combative manner?
b,121I don't understand people with conservative politics who try to hang out in creative circles... it's not that creative people's politics are superior, it's just that it doesn't work on a basic social level. Creative people are always trying to imagine the world differently, which means they have no investment in conservative ideals.
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b,121There's a huge difference between Dolo and Eli (Vitamin.) This dude is just trolling.
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b,121PLUS - AGAIN: What does he contribute other than being the "sole voice of political dissent" in an antagonizing and combative manner?
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b,121I don't understand people with conservative politics who try to hang out in creative circles... it's not that creative people's politics are superior, it's just that it doesn't work on a basic social level. Creative people are always trying to imagine the world differently, which means they have no investment in conservative ideals.
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b,121There's a huge difference between Dolo and Eli (Vitamin.) This dude is just trolling.
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b,121He's doing the SAME EXACT THING the rest of you are doing except he's doing it for "the other side".
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b,121Do you think if guys like Saracenus or YP or most of the political contributors here posted their material at a Conservative leaning site it would be considered "trolling"...of course it would.
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b,121The general vibe here is that this is a Left/Liberal/Dem site and others are not welcome.
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Rock, don't you get it? If Obama wins, that means everyone who voted for him is better than you. b,121b,121Seriously, and this has definitely been an issue for me in the past, it doesn't even have to be the Democratic candidate who shows flaws...it's the supporters of those Democratic candidates who can't wait to show jut how petty and ugly they can be.b,121b,121For people who actually are interested in ALL OF US making progress TOGETHER, it can be quite the deal-breaker. b,121b,121But I guess I'm just a troll whose opinion doesn't count.
b,121There's a huge difference between Dolo and Eli (Vitamin.) This dude is just trolling.
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