I went and saw A-Trak & Steve Aoki Last Night...

cpeetz

Not really my bag but an old friend was in town from NYC to film the night.I don't know what I expected music wise...But the stuff they were playing was beyond awful.It was basicly straight up 90's rave style techno with a little Miami bass flavor,no vocals, no soul, just really generic, really crappy music.But the hipster crowd ate it up.Call me But I don't get it AT ALL.

johmbolaya

I reviewed Steve Aoki's album recently, actually a mix CD type situation and some of the lyrics were:

I want ta buttfuck you in the alias
I don't care if my name's not Aurelius
Don't drip pon shame in the shalius
Gobble goggle fump poo in trailus

Some of the music was alright, but is this the music for the "experimental generation"? Pfftt.

cpeetz

I reviewed Steve Aoki's album recently, actually a mix CD type situation and some of the lyrics were:

I want ta buttfuck you in the alias
I don't care if my name's not Aurelius
Don't drip pon shame in the shalius
Gobble goggle fump poo in trailus

Some of the music was alright, but is this the music for the "experimental generation"? Pfftt.

Yikes!

Jonny_Paycheck

I want ta buttfuck you in the alias
I don't care if my name's not Aurelius
Don't drip pon shame in the shalius
Gobble goggle fump poo in trailus

Hahahaha this is excellent!

p_gunn

Not really my bag but an old friend was in town from NYC to film the night.
I don't know what I expected music wise...
But the stuff they were playing was beyond awful.
It was basicly straight up 90's rave style techno with a little Miami bass flavor,
no vocals, no soul, just really generic, really crappy music.
But the hipster crowd ate it up.
Call me



But I don't get it AT ALL.

i saw them a week ago... same thing... the music you describe was bassline and funky house (what they call it in the UK, despite it not being what we would think of as FUNKY house music here, more like electro)...

there ARE some decent tracks in the genre, but they were def. playing the lamest stuff... it seems like A-trak wants to get into playing this type of stuff, but he doesn't really know his way around it... but, yeah, i left after like half an hour-45 minutes...

BeatChemist

hmmmm guess I should be glad I didn't go see A-Trak in Toronto last week then...

That's nice, because I was sorta kicking myself for not going. Now I don't have to feel so bad.

vhs

A train only plays for the post-art schooler coke sniffer Saved by the Bell color swatch crowd these days - good coin for sure.

cpeetz

A train only plays for the post-art schooler coke sniffer Saved by the Bell color swatch crowd these days - good coin for sure.

Zactly, couldn't have said it any better myself.
It was a godamn American Apparel ad up in there.

pcmr

hmmmm guess I should be glad I didn't go see A-Trak in Toronto last week then...

That's nice, because I was sorta kicking myself for not going. Now I don't have to feel so bad.

I saw him with Mehdi and Catchdubs (both guys I really like) in MTL

A-Trak is from my old hood (NDG) and I remember him winning the DMCs and all that back in the day

I must on the color blind turquoise cokedoutcrew extravaganza and the crappy b-more remix of anything under the sun

Not a great performance at all and its a shame that this is the direction..."alternative" club music is heading

Hipsterific!

The-gaffler

...i bet the only thing worth going there for is to pick up some freshmen girls.




alriiight - alriiiiiiight

kicks79

What exactly is "alternative club music" ? please to explain?

pcmr

What exactly is "alternative club music" ? please to explain?

My way of refering to music played in a club but that is not guido territory. A-Trak shows are promoted throughout the indie circuit...thus not bad/commercial club music but more 'alternative' supposedly 'good' club music
pitchforkingly hipsterationalised clurb music apologizm

Double_B

What exactly is "alternative club music" ? please to explain?

check this out: http://www.promoonly.com/format_page.php?id_fp=9

Also, there's a lot of what I would call "alternative club" that is good, like stuff on the dfa label for example...

But the stuff the fools gold dudes spin is what a lot of dudes call blog house. Real bass heavy, glitchy stuff. Good examples are remixes by switch and sinden, boyz noize, or that track patrick 122 by oizo.. I don't like this stuff either

djdaze

I usually like a lot of the shit I hear A-Track spin, and while I agree that there's a LOT of bullshit Bmore out there, there's some really good stuff too, I like the Curtis Vodka stuff just to name one.

Usually he spins some Oizo, Medhi, Ed Banger type stuff and I can definitely get with that.

cpeetz

Also, there's a lot of what I would call "alternative club" that is good, like stuff on the dfa label for example...

I would have been stoked to hear more DFA style stuff, but seriously it's was all just
shitty beats, no vocals, no re-edits, no mash-ups, nothing fun.

erewhon

straight up 90's rave style techno with a little Miami bass flavor,
no vocals, no soul, just really generic, really crappy music.
But the hipster crowd ate it up.
Call me



But I don't get it AT ALL.

I had the same reaction to A-trak's "Dirty South Dance" cd.

pcmr

Blog House is a hilairiously accurate term

As daze said, i can get down with the mehdi (love his recent album) and some of ed banger and I respect people on the fools gold label

but there is good and bad type of this music and unfortunately the crowd's eat everything up

I recall he did more mashups but it was like C.R.E.A.M/B-more, rince repeat so I was not feeling it

Aser

switch is great, everybody biting switch is not (which is pretty much everyone).

kicks79

Ahh i understand. That ed banger stuff gets some play here as does baltimore. Its usually at the hipster electro rock nites though.
I keep hearing about bassline music .The term gets thrown around a lot here ie this is bassline house ect. It all seems to be bass driven minimal house/tech stuff. Why do people feel the need to make up new genres of music all the time?

kwality

I keep hearing about bassline music .The term gets thrown around a lot here ie this is bassline house ect. It all seems to be bass driven minimal house/tech stuff. Why do people feel the need to make up new genres of music all the time?

Well sometimes different sounds do need different names. I certainly wouldn't say that bassline was particularly close to either of the genres you mentioned - more like speed garage really. I think they only changed the name so it wouldn't be seen as a throwback to speed garage. Some are trying to call it funky, which is a pretty lame name I think.

A good article here - http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2008/03/funky-seduction.html

and http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2007/12/wot-do-u-call-it-funky.html

UnconSci

Yea, mashing up eurotrance or crappy techno with rap music seems to be on its way up right now. I think people want to just have huge ass beats or something and they are realizing that what they hated about rave music was actually what they were looking for aesthetically currently.

I can definately get down with some DJ assault or Curtis Vodka shit.... even that overnight star remix by flosstradamus is pretty cool. I just cant really get down with the rest.

I feel like this is just people trying to recycle diplo or spankrock but to an bad effect.

ed banger shit is cool... im really over hearing daft punk and Frickin' justice though

Beatnicholas

I keep hearing about bassline music .The term gets thrown around a lot here ie this is bassline house ect. It all seems to be bass driven minimal house/tech stuff. Why do people feel the need to make up new genres of music all the time?

Well sometimes different sounds do need different names. I certainly wouldn't say that bassline was particularly close to either of the genres you mentioned - more like speed garage really. I think they only changed the name so it wouldn't be seen as a throwback to speed garage. Some are trying to call it funky, which is a pretty lame name I think.

A good article here - http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2008/03/funky-seduction.html

and http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2007/12/wot-do-u-call-it-funky.html

jeah, this stuff is the latest plague to hit the uk, as usual it's being spearheaded by the northerners :P

most of the people making this stuff bought "sweet like chocolate" as their first single which kinda says it all. they're all under 20 years old and it's all fruity loops and ting..

as with all sub genres in the uk, things just move in cycles. It's not dissimilar to the speed garage of yesteryear.. the Dubstep stuff has similar age of producers, similar emphasis on dark bass noises.. but as with happy hardcore / dark core, you always have one "funky" style created for every "dark" style..

kicks79

yeah it seems that bassline means a different thing here. I heard it was a new kind of 2 step thing. But here its being used to describe all manner of electronic music that is minimal in nature and features a prominent bassline. Perhaps im just
I don't exactly get out to many clubs these days ha ha

Pundit

so my next question is, is craze gonna go loopy off that kanye loot too?

kicks79

have you heard crazes frabic mix? its very much in the same genres as being described in this thread.

Pundit

nah, pretty sure i've got a copy of it lying around on a harddrive somewhere but never listened to it, but i did give him a copy of cold chisel khe sanh on vinyl when he was out here last. He didn't get to play it at the sydney show alas...

The-gaffler

so my next question is, is craze gonna go loopy off that kanye loot too?

sad to say the craze i once idolized smashing the dmc competition [scratchin, what is it?] and battling on ricky lake [oh my] is gonna go the same route as this cornball ass a-trak. when he released his first battle record, i bought it and it was def on the bass tip but had its moments. so i knew he was into all that, but hopped it would never get to a level much like this.

verb606

so my next question is, is craze gonna go loopy off that kanye loot too?

sad to say the craze i once idolized smashing the dmc competition [scratchin, what is it?] and battling on ricky lake [oh my] is gonna go the same route as this cornball ass a-trak. when he released his first battle record, i bought it and it was def on the bass tip but had its moments. so i knew he was into all that, but hopped it would never get to a level much like this.

There was some interview with Craze in Scratch or Remix where he was talking about mainstream club gigs he was doing and implying that he sorta had to take them for the money. I was like, dude, you're DJ Craze! Why are you playing wack jiggy clubs? Is that what it's come to?

The-gaffler

There was some interview with Craze in Scratch or Remix where he was talking about mainstream club gigs he was doing and implying that he sorta had to take them for the money. I was like, dude, you're DJ Craze! Why are you playing wack jiggy clubs? Is that what it's come to?

i mean, in all honesty i can see if you played some here & there for extra dough. not trying to knock the hustle. i know i would be tempted if it was for a grip to spin a party in LA or something...but when you make a lifestyle change out of it, that's where it's and that's what most of these dudes have done.

its the modern day cross over.

"thinkin about a pop record, somethin made for the STRIKE>station/STRIKE> hipsters[/b]. for a whole new relation-ship of a new type of scene"

verb606

There was some interview with Craze in Scratch or Remix where he was talking about mainstream club gigs he was doing and implying that he sorta had to take them for the money. I was like, dude, you're DJ Craze! Why are you playing wack jiggy clubs? Is that what it's come to?

i mean, in all honesty i can see if you played some here & there for extra dough. not trying to knock the hustle. i know i would be tempted if it was for a grip to spin a party in LA or something...but when you make a lifestyle change out of it, that's where it's and that's what most of these dudes have done.

its the modern day cross over.

"thinkin about a pop record, somethin made for the STRIKE>station/STRIKE> hipsters[/b]. for a whole new relation-ship of a new type of scene"

No, I'm not mad at him for playing mainstream gigs, I was just surprised he was taking time to discuss his inability to play anything besides hot club shit in a magazine.

I'm not loving a lot of that hipster dance shit, but if it gets Craze away from doing straight Top 40 clurb nonsense, it's a step in the right direction.

djdaze

Every time I've seen Craze spin it's been strictly D&B sets mixed with scratch routines.