I'd never paid any attention to Field Mob until the new one, do they have a good full-length?
No, but I've always kinda liked them. Good MCs that just need some direction. (shit, bambouche, don't kill me!)
They really kill it on that new "georgia" song.
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
God, Stacks, you are the one who sounds musically unsophisticated in this argument. Being unable to appreciate an entire region's worth of output is, simply put, ignorant. I brought up the comparison to soul music but nobody bit... either way though, can you imagine how silly someone might have sounded, in Detroit or Chicago, talking about how they can't feel Otis Redding or Latimore or whatever? Too slow?
It is all music, moreover it is all Black music, and I find something to appreciate in southern hip-hop that is not brought to the table by West Coast or East Coast. Similar to Jazz and Soul, each region has something to offer.
There are wack artists from every corner of the globe - The Cella Dwellas are wack as shit and so is D4L. They are wack in different ways, but they both suck. Now, if you're saying that folks like Scarface, Ludacris, The Clipse, David Banner, Underground Kingz, OutKast, Trick Daddy, Field Mob, and others aren't bringing anything creative to the table then I just would have to totally disagree. I would argue that you are biased, not listening, or somewhere in between.
I deal with plenty of old soul collectors who refuse to listen to any funk. They don't like it, they belittle anyone who collects it. That is what you all sound like. A bunch of people who are set in your ways, can't appreciate anything different, and take the worst example of a sub-genre to paint with the broadest brush possible. It's an argument with little if any intellectual merit and it speaks more poorly of the person using it than anything.
Hey Jonny,
I never dismissed all Southern music, just the stuff that's getting the push right now. Most of the artists you named are damn good (I can do without Trick Daddy, though), but it's not stuff I'd want to hear an album worth of material (personal preference related). Early in my post, I acknowledged that Saigon mentioned Southern artists that were exceptions to his statement, which I agree. I'm making two simple arguments in my rants. One, consistently champion the music you like and don't jump on the bandwagon simply because the style is popular at the time. Two, I like rap music that contains good lyrics and nice beats irrespective of the region where it is from. In my OPINION, most of the "popular" down-South music does not fit the "ideal" given in my second point. Also, my application of this standard has been consistent since I got into to hip-hop and it does not depend on the region where the rapper/group is from. Frankly, I do think NY is doin' at lot of wack stuff as well because they too are dickriding the South. They've forgotten to do what they do. Someone asked about good NY artists, well I throw in the U.N. and Aguilar (the little I've heard from him; dude has attitude) as examples.
I'd never paid any attention to Field Mob until the new one, do they have a good full-length?
First album is cool--more raw. Second album has some good MCing, but it's a little too slick--too much material that sounds like they are trying to reach Outkast's crossover audience and that already sounds pretty dated. Hopefully the new one is the album where they really get it together.
do we have to like the same schitt our entire lives or else we're soft-serve tasti d-lite?
I think Stacks iz talkin about how cats jock movements until they lose popularity. Where do West Coast cats weigh in on this discussion? Those cats were jocked before, and now the public has shifted the attention to another region. Cant you see the cycle.
Nicely put, Batmon. That's EXACTLY what I'm sayin'. Also, I'm not saying that cats tastes can't change, but shouldn't there be some consistency? How can one maintain some sense of identity when they flip-flop all over the place in terms of their preferences. So again, it seems that cats are jocking the South simply because it's "in style" right now. Some of these folks will hate on that shit when it goes out of style. I'm saying I never got into that aesthetic now or then. I'm consistent in what I prefer. If guys consistently got into that style, that's great. Stay loyal to what you like and rep it, but being wishy-washy is wack. Bitter and irrelevant? Nah, just true to myself Innovation should always be relevant to art. That's the problem, commercialism has trumped artistry.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I knew exactly what you meant. but trends are focused on sounds, and sounds only have a limited shelf life. as long as southern rap moves forward, how's the trend gonna end? southern rap's already gone through a grip of sounds in the popular eye. no limit to cash money to lil jon to swishahouse to snap to paul and juicy j.
do you really think the basal state of hip-hop fan-dom is centered in new york? like dudes will always go back to shitting on everyone that isn't from the five boros, and that when the southern rap "trend" is over, saigon will get his props?
God, Stacks, you are the one who sounds musically unsophisticated in this argument. Being unable to appreciate an entire region's worth of output is, simply put, ignorant. I brought up the comparison to soul music but nobody bit... either way though, can you imagine how silly someone might have sounded, in Detroit or Chicago, talking about how they can't feel Otis Redding or Latimore or whatever? Too slow?
It is all music, moreover it is all Black music, and I find something to appreciate in southern hip-hop that is not brought to the table by West Coast or East Coast. Similar to Jazz and Soul, each region has something to offer.
There are wack artists from every corner of the globe - The Cella Dwellas are wack as shit and so is D4L. They are wack in different ways, but they both suck. Now, if you're saying that folks like Scarface, Ludacris, The Clipse, David Banner, Underground Kingz, OutKast, Trick Daddy, Field Mob, and others aren't bringing anything creative to the table then I just would have to totally disagree. I would argue that you are biased, not listening, or somewhere in between.
I deal with plenty of old soul collectors who refuse to listen to any funk. They don't like it, they belittle anyone who collects it. That is what you all sound like. A bunch of people who are set in your ways, can't appreciate anything different, and take the worst example of a sub-genre to paint with the broadest brush possible. It's an argument with little if any intellectual merit and it speaks more poorly of the person using it than anything.
Hey Jonny,
I never dismissed all Southern music, just the stuff that's getting the push right now. Most of the artists you named are damn good (I can do without Trick Daddy, though), but it's not stuff I'd want to hear an album worth of material (personal preference related). Early in my post, I acknowledged that Saigon mentioned Southern artists that were exceptions to his statement, which I agree. I'm making two simple arguments in my rants. One, consistently champion the music you like and don't jump on the bandwagon simply because the style is popular at the time. Two, I like rap music that contains good lyrics and nice beats irrespective of the region where it is from. In my OPINION, most of the "popular" down-South music does not fit the "ideal" given in my second point. Also, my application of this standard has been consistent since I got into to hip-hop and it does not depend on the region where the rapper/group is from. Frankly, I do think NY is doin' at lot of wack stuff as well because they too are dickriding the South. They've forgotten to do what they do. Someone asked about good NY artists, well I throw in the U.N. and Aguilar (the little I've heard from him; dude has attitude) as examples.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
Well, it seems like you got into hip-hop strictly as east coast music, so you see all this stuf as bandwagon jumping. I guess you never dug the Ghetto Boys, early Scarface or UGK, early west coast, Luke (yes, I said it), etc. But your point that hip-hop has to be complex or intellectually challenging to have merit is just, for lack of better terms, bullshit. Most funk music is not intellectually challenging - a hell of a lot of soul music isn't either, most of these forms of music started out as party/dance music. It seems pretty suspect to try and rewrite that history.
dude has put out some of the best singles over the past 2-3 years. if you can't hear that you ain't even trying to listen.
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
is it not ok for people's tastes to change?
do we have to like the same schitt our entire lives or else we're soft-serve tasti d-lite?
I think Stacks iz talkin about how cats jock movements until they lose popularity. Where do West Coast cats weigh in on this discussion? Those cats were jocked before, and now the public has shifted the attention to another region. Cant you see the cycle.
Nicely put, Batmon. That's EXACTLY what I'm sayin'. Also, I'm not saying that cats tastes can't change, but shouldn't there be some consistency? How can one maintain some sense of identity when they flip-flop all over the place in terms of their preferences. So again, it seems that cats are jocking the South simply because it's "in style" right now. Some of these folks will hate on that shit when it goes out of style. I'm saying I never got into that aesthetic now or then. I'm consistent in what I prefer. If guys consistently got into that style, that's great. Stay loyal to what you like and rep it, but being wishy-washy is wack. Bitter and irrelevant? Nah, just true to myself Innovation should always be relevant to art. That's the problem, commercialism has trumped artistry.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I knew exactly what you meant. but trends are focused on sounds, and sounds only have a limited shelf life. as long as southern rap moves forward, how's the trend gonna end? southern rap's already gone through a grip of sounds in the popular eye. no limit to cash money to lil jon to swishahouse to snap to paul and juicy j.
do you really think the basal state of hip-hop fan-dom is centered in new york? like dudes will always go back to shitting on everyone that isn't from the five boros, and that when the southern rap "trend" is over, saigon will get his props?
Nope, NYC will never be the center of the rap world again. They've lost their identity and few (if any) of the young dudes are carry the torch forward (Jaz-O hit this dead-on). Things have changed for good. But, having been a rap fan for DECADES now, I know that every trend, as you said, has a shelf life. So, the "Southern movement" too will give way to something else down the line. I just wonder what that musical style will be, hopefully something that I can get into more. That probably won't happen either since I'm old and kinda outgrowing it all. Rap is largely for young dudes and I do acknowledge that. Some of you guys outta know by now that I love a good debate. And for those on the other side of the debate, this same process will happen to you too as you age (with exceptions, of course).
Only thing i've ever liked from Luda was the "What's your fantasy" song.
So you stop listening after the first single?
No, but i just knew he wasn't really gonna get any better than that.My problem is with his voice it's too cartoony sounding and he talking instead of rapping most of the times.
Only thing i've ever liked from Luda was the "What's your fantasy" song.
So you stop listening after the first single?
No, but i just knew he wasn't really gonna get any better than that.My problem is with his voice is too cartoony sounding and he talking instead of rapping most of the times.
I'll admit to having slept at first and to having initially viewed him as a radio personality embarking on a vanity project, but he got a lot better.
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
God, Stacks, you are the one who sounds musically unsophisticated in this argument. Being unable to appreciate an entire region's worth of output is, simply put, ignorant. I brought up the comparison to soul music but nobody bit... either way though, can you imagine how silly someone might have sounded, in Detroit or Chicago, talking about how they can't feel Otis Redding or Latimore or whatever? Too slow?
It is all music, moreover it is all Black music, and I find something to appreciate in southern hip-hop that is not brought to the table by West Coast or East Coast. Similar to Jazz and Soul, each region has something to offer.
There are wack artists from every corner of the globe - The Cella Dwellas are wack as shit and so is D4L. They are wack in different ways, but they both suck. Now, if you're saying that folks like Scarface, Ludacris, The Clipse, David Banner, Underground Kingz, OutKast, Trick Daddy, Field Mob, and others aren't bringing anything creative to the table then I just would have to totally disagree. I would argue that you are biased, not listening, or somewhere in between.
I deal with plenty of old soul collectors who refuse to listen to any funk. They don't like it, they belittle anyone who collects it. That is what you all sound like. A bunch of people who are set in your ways, can't appreciate anything different, and take the worst example of a sub-genre to paint with the broadest brush possible. It's an argument with little if any intellectual merit and it speaks more poorly of the person using it than anything.
Hey Jonny,
I never dismissed all Southern music, just the stuff that's getting the push right now. Most of the artists you named are damn good (I can do without Trick Daddy, though), but it's not stuff I'd want to hear an album worth of material (personal preference related). Early in my post, I acknowledged that Saigon mentioned Southern artists that were exceptions to his statement, which I agree. I'm making two simple arguments in my rants. One, consistently champion the music you like and don't jump on the bandwagon simply because the style is popular at the time. Two, I like rap music that contains good lyrics and nice beats irrespective of the region where it is from. In my OPINION, most of the "popular" down-South music does not fit the "ideal" given in my second point. Also, my application of this standard has been consistent since I got into to hip-hop and it does not depend on the region where the rapper/group is from. Frankly, I do think NY is doin' at lot of wack stuff as well because they too are dickriding the South. They've forgotten to do what they do. Someone asked about good NY artists, well I throw in the U.N. and Aguilar (the little I've heard from him; dude has attitude) as examples.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
Well, it seems like you got into hip-hop strictly as east coast music, so you see all this stuf as bandwagon jumping. I guess you never dug the Ghetto Boys, early Scarface or UGK, early west coast, Luke (yes, I said it), etc. But your point that hip-hop has to be complex or intellectually challenging to have merit is just, for lack of better terms, bullshit. Most funk music is not intellectually challenging - a hell of a lot of soul music isn't either, most of these forms of music started out as party/dance music. It seems pretty suspect to try and rewrite that history.
Hey Jonny,
It's obvious you don't know me because I own the ALBUM "2 Live Is What We Are", and the 12s for joints such as "Doggin' the Wax" b/w "Six in the Morning", "I'm Cool", "Everlasting Bass", "Domination" (MCs of Rap), to name a few. And to say funk is not intellectually challenging is to minimize George Clinton/Bernie Worrell's intricate arrangements (despite simple, ear-catching hooks), or JBs/Fred Wesley's arrangements. Funk is not simple by any stretch of the imagination, unless you compare it to Beethoven's 5th or something. A lot of disco had lush arrangements that were far from simplistic (see "Mainline" by Black Ivory as an example). The point is that good music usually has substance, from Roger to Muscle Shoals. Some simplicity can be complex, as in Willie Mitchell's work with Al Green. The songs sounded sparse and minimal, but a lot was going on to keep it interesting. But, to produce good music like the above takes forethought and some depth, and "Still Tippin'" just doesn't qualify, again, in my OPINION.
Only thing i've ever liked from Luda was the "What's your fantasy" song.
So you stop listening after the first single?
No, but i just knew he wasn't really gonna get any better than that.My problem is with his voice it's too cartoony sounding and he talking instead of rapping most of the times.
so you're saying that you're not listening at all. ok, coo.
But, to produce good music like the above takes forethought and some depth, and "Still Tippin'" just doesn't qualify, again, in my OPINION.
This is pretty much where the thread should end; if you're gonna hatt on "Still Tippin'"--one of the decade's best singles--there is absolutely no arguing with you.
Taking skill to produce and being intellectually complex are two very different things, and if you are going to try to argue that disco is somehow more intellectually complex than Texas hip-hop then I am going to assume you don't know much about either.
We could continue to argue the point for days, but I think at this point it's pretty clear that you've decided not to give this music it's due, and it's pretty clear to me that you haven't spent enough time listening to it to even speak with authority about its merit or complexity.
It's obvious you don't know me because I own the ALBUM "2 Live Is What We Are", and the 12s for joints such as "Doggin' the Wax" b/w "Six in the Morning", "I'm Cool", "Everlasting Bass", "Domination" (MCs of Rap), to name a few.
then it's obvious that you're just hatting. "everlasting bass" is practically a mannie fresh beat.
I wonder if folks called southern soul "simple simon" or stupid or whatever merely because it was less advanced or intellectual than its northern (nowigancasino) counterparts?
I think you guys are missing something.
And I don't like every (or even most) southern records.
I think southerners celebrate the idea that they are slower and simpler than "city folk". I'm not just referring to black rappers either. Personally, its not for me. I accidentally watched MTV for a few minutes and they were talking about "snap music". a whole genre dedicated to pressing the "snap" key instead of the "808 snare" key on the keyboard?!?! What is that.... D Sharp?
Obviously country bumpkins enjoy that stuff, and thats fine. I just wish there was something else on TV or the radio for the rest of us that got past 6th grade and don't consider an ice grill a "dental plan".
Yes, I hatt, but I hatt for the good of america! hooray!
damn dizzy, you sound pretty stupid right here.
Whats so stupid about it? I mean, I like scarface, Geto Boys, some Trick Daddy, Outcast, etc, but everybody seems to acknowledge them as the 'exception' to the 'south'. Why is that?
I don't see really see anything wrong with what I wrote above. I just re-read it and it still seems ok to me. Call me out on something specific so that I can respond to it.
And yes, booty bass is pointless trashy dumb music, and yes, I love it to death. Its energetic and fun. I suppose that is hypocritical, but I'm actually ok with that.
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
Taking skill to produce and being intellectually complex are two very different things, and if you are going to try to argue that disco is somehow more intellectually complex than Texas hip-hop then I am going to assume you don't know much about either.
We could continue to argue the point for days, but I think at this point it's pretty clear that you've decided not to give this music it's due, and it's pretty clear to me that you haven't spent enough time listening to it to even speak with authority about its merit or complexity.
No disrespect, I like arguing about music too.
Are you reading my posts? My point was that so-called simple music, like disco, funk, and soul, aren't so simple. That's all. You've formed your opinion of what I'm saying outside of the ACTUAL content and intended messages of my posts. That's rather close-minded and arrogant of you, wouldn't you say?
Only thing i've ever liked from Luda was the "What's your fantasy" song.
So you stop listening after the first single?
No, but i just knew he wasn't really gonna get any better than that.My problem is with his voice it's too cartoony sounding and he talking instead of rapping most of the times.
so you're saying that you're not listening at all. ok, coo.
I sure i didn't miss anything thing in "Area Codes" and "Cadillac Grillz" Oh the "Move Bitch" song is also cool in my book.Too be honest i really see him as a artist that should release singles only.It's funny to me though how he took Redman's spot as Def Jam's premier rapper.
Big_Stacks"I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
It's obvious you don't know me because I own the ALBUM "2 Live Is What We Are", and the 12s for joints such as "Doggin' the Wax" b/w "Six in the Morning", "I'm Cool", "Everlasting Bass", "Domination" (MCs of Rap), to name a few.
then it's obvious that you're just hatting. "everlasting bass" is practically a mannie fresh beat.
Are cats reading? I'm making the point that I'm NOT some single-minded down-South hatter. I'm quite diverse in what I listen to, but my standards for what I like has remained intact over the years. Good grief!!!!
It's obvious you don't know me because I own the ALBUM "2 Live Is What We Are", and the 12s for joints such as "Doggin' the Wax" b/w "Six in the Morning", "I'm Cool", "Everlasting Bass", "Domination" (MCs of Rap), to name a few.
then it's obvious that you're just hatting. "everlasting bass" is practically a mannie fresh beat.
Are cats reading? I'm making the point that I'm NOT some single-minded down-South hatter. I'm quite diverse in what I listen to, but my standards for what I like has remained intact over the years. Good grief!!!!
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I think what Noz was pointing out is that your standards HAVE changed and you're jsut talking out the side of your neck right now.
Quite honestly, I think Saigon is absolutely right!!!! Don't get me wrong, his blanket statement is not applicable to all "down south" artists, as he acknowledged himself by singling out Outkast and David Banner.
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No, but I've always kinda liked them. Good MCs that just need some direction. (shit, bambouche, don't kill me!)
They really kill it on that new "georgia" song.
Hey Jonny,
I never dismissed all Southern music, just the stuff that's getting the push right now. Most of the artists you named are damn good (I can do without Trick Daddy, though), but it's not stuff I'd want to hear an album worth of material (personal preference related). Early in my post, I acknowledged that Saigon mentioned Southern artists that were exceptions to his statement, which I agree. I'm making two simple arguments in my rants. One, consistently champion the music you like and don't jump on the bandwagon simply because the style is popular at the time. Two, I like rap music that contains good lyrics and nice beats irrespective of the region where it is from. In my OPINION, most of the "popular" down-South music does not fit the "ideal" given in my second point. Also, my application of this standard has been consistent since I got into to hip-hop and it does not depend on the region where the rapper/group is from. Frankly, I do think NY is doin' at lot of wack stuff as well because they too are dickriding the South. They've forgotten to do what they do. Someone asked about good NY artists, well I throw in the U.N. and Aguilar (the little I've heard from him; dude has attitude) as examples.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
Hell yes
This got a lot of mixshow play back in Spring of last year (!!!)
I was about to give up on it having an actual release...
I felt that the other 2 no-name dudes were killin' them on their own mixtape.Only thing i've ever liked from Luda was the "What's your fantasy" song.
First album is cool--more raw. Second album has some good MCing, but it's a little too slick--too much material that sounds like they are trying to reach Outkast's crossover audience and that already sounds pretty dated. Hopefully the new one is the album where they really get it together.
It was supposed to be the lead single from their upcoming album, but when that got pushed back became the official single from the DTP comp.
Does not even merit a response.
I knew exactly what you meant. but trends are focused on sounds, and sounds only have a limited shelf life. as long as southern rap moves forward, how's the trend gonna end? southern rap's already gone through a grip of sounds in the popular eye. no limit to cash money to lil jon to swishahouse to snap to paul and juicy j.
do you really think the basal state of hip-hop fan-dom is centered in new york? like dudes will always go back to shitting on everyone that isn't from the five boros, and that when the southern rap "trend" is over, saigon will get his props?
So you stop listening after the first single?
how's that comp? the lead single was
Well, it seems like you got into hip-hop strictly as east coast music, so you see all this stuf as bandwagon jumping. I guess you never dug the Ghetto Boys, early Scarface or UGK, early west coast, Luke (yes, I said it), etc. But your point that hip-hop has to be complex or intellectually challenging to have merit is just, for lack of better terms, bullshit. Most funk music is not intellectually challenging - a hell of a lot of soul music isn't either, most of these forms of music started out as party/dance music. It seems pretty suspect to try and rewrite that history.
dude has put out some of the best singles over the past 2-3 years. if you can't hear that you ain't even trying to listen.
Nope, NYC will never be the center of the rap world again. They've lost their identity and few (if any) of the young dudes are carry the torch forward (Jaz-O hit this dead-on). Things have changed for good. But, having been a rap fan for DECADES now, I know that every trend, as you said, has a shelf life. So, the "Southern movement" too will give way to something else down the line. I just wonder what that musical style will be, hopefully something that I can get into more. That probably won't happen either since I'm old and kinda outgrowing it all. Rap is largely for young dudes and I do acknowledge that. Some of you guys outta know by now that I love a good debate. And for those on the other side of the debate, this same process will happen to you too as you age (with exceptions, of course).
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
No, but i just knew he wasn't really gonna get any better than that.My problem is with his voice it's too cartoony sounding and he talking instead of rapping most of the times.
"Naan"
"Shutup"
"Take It to Da House"
Most of his albums are pretty solid too... I think some of the hatters that only know him from his singles might be surprised.
Can we get a Faux_Rillz "Quick! Edit your post!" graemlin?
I'll admit to having slept at first and to having initially viewed him as a radio personality embarking on a vanity project, but he got a lot better.
Hey Jonny,
It's obvious you don't know me because I own the ALBUM "2 Live Is What We Are", and the 12s for joints such as "Doggin' the Wax" b/w "Six in the Morning", "I'm Cool", "Everlasting Bass", "Domination" (MCs of Rap), to name a few. And to say funk is not intellectually challenging is to minimize George Clinton/Bernie Worrell's intricate arrangements (despite simple, ear-catching hooks), or JBs/Fred Wesley's arrangements. Funk is not simple by any stretch of the imagination, unless you compare it to Beethoven's 5th or something. A lot of disco had lush arrangements that were far from simplistic (see "Mainline" by Black Ivory as an example). The point is that good music usually has substance, from Roger to Muscle Shoals. Some simplicity can be complex, as in Willie Mitchell's work with Al Green. The songs sounded sparse and minimal, but a lot was going on to keep it interesting. But, to produce good music like the above takes forethought and some depth, and "Still Tippin'" just doesn't qualify, again, in my OPINION.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
YES!! lol.
so you're saying that you're not listening at all. ok, coo.
This is pretty much where the thread should end; if you're gonna hatt on "Still Tippin'"--one of the decade's best singles--there is absolutely no arguing with you.
We could continue to argue the point for days, but I think at this point it's pretty clear that you've decided not to give this music it's due, and it's pretty clear to me that you haven't spent enough time listening to it to even speak with authority about its merit or complexity.
No disrespect, I like arguing about music too.
i really enjoyed this when it first came out. i never heard the follow up though.
then it's obvious that you're just hatting. "everlasting bass" is practically a mannie fresh beat.
Whats so stupid about it? I mean, I like scarface, Geto Boys, some Trick Daddy, Outcast, etc, but everybody seems to acknowledge them as the 'exception' to the 'south'. Why is that?
I don't see really see anything wrong with what I wrote above. I just re-read it and it still seems ok to me. Call me out on something specific so that I can respond to it.
And yes, booty bass is pointless trashy dumb music, and yes, I love it to death. Its energetic and fun. I suppose that is hypocritical, but I'm actually ok with that.
Are you reading my posts? My point was that so-called simple music, like disco, funk, and soul, aren't so simple. That's all. You've formed your opinion of what I'm saying outside of the ACTUAL content and intended messages of my posts. That's rather close-minded and arrogant of you, wouldn't you say?
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I sure i didn't miss anything thing in "Area Codes" and "Cadillac Grillz"
Oh the "Move Bitch" song is also cool in my book.Too be honest i really see him as a artist that should release singles only.It's funny to me though how he took Redman's spot as Def Jam's premier rapper.
Are cats reading? I'm making the point that I'm NOT some single-minded down-South hatter. I'm quite diverse in what I listen to, but my standards for what I like has remained intact over the years. Good grief!!!!
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I think what Noz was pointing out is that your standards HAVE changed and you're jsut talking out the side of your neck right now.