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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Bird wasnt even a factor.

    Westbrook cant play team ball and wont have an open look on the perimeter and wont be taking it to the hole against the Dream teams interior. so dont think he's gonna be doing that hero nonsense.

    Drexler > Gordon and Melo ( who cant play team ball either).

    Deron is their best PG but aint stopping Stockton no matter how athletic.

    Its 5 Prime Hall Of Famers vs Old Kobe, Prime LeBron, and I can only shoot w/ no Post game Durant.

    Who is guarding Magic? Dont tell me LeBron is doing everything.

    Chuck Daly, Lenny Wilkens, P. J. Carlesimo, and Mike Krzyzewski > Mike Krzyzewski, Jim Boeheim, Mike D'Antoni, and Nate McMillan


    They do this BULLSHIT every Olympics and try to compare muthafuckas to the Dream Team and shit always is a bunch of hype.

    LeBron vs Jordan.

    Barkley was MVP in the following season willing Phoenix to the Finals.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    DJ_Enki said:
    edpowers said:
    I know i know. Jordan turned water into wine.....blah blah blah

    Well, besides the fact that Jordan is the GOAT

    Not '92 Jordan .......2012 Lebron > 1992 Jordan

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    The obvious edge is the frontcourt for the Dream Team. Ewing, Robinson, Malone, and Barkley.

    All other positions are pretty much a toss-up.

    11 hall-of-famers on the original Dream Team, but there's at least 6 or 7 future HOFs in the prime of their career
    on this one.

    Definitely not a blow-out like some old headz might predict.

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    The dream team was able to run against the competition in 92

    The international field is so much stronger, that's a fact. OG Dream Team would win, but not by 50 points.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    edpowers said:
    DJ_Enki said:
    edpowers said:
    I know i know. Jordan turned water into wine.....blah blah blah

    Well, besides the fact that Jordan is the GOAT

    Not '92 Jordan .......2012 Lebron > 1992 Jordan

    Str8 Buggin.

    James 27 6 6 mvp
    Jordan 30 6 6 at the Two position in the 91/92 season. mvp

    And please dont turn this convo into LeBron vs Jordan. please.

    Just that 91/92 season vs this 66 game LeBron season.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    Give me a break Jordan and Pippen were in their prime and were the greatest defensive duo around. No one on the current team could deal with them out on the perimeter.

    And Jordan had a suspect jumper? Wasn't it in the 1992 championships when he dropped all those 3 on the Blazers?

    I can't even believe we're having this conversation. Wait it's soulstrut, I believe it.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    LeBron, Iggy, and Chandler are this teams best defenders. I cant put any money on Anthony Davis against the vets.

    Barkley says only Lebron, Kobe and Durant make the OG Team. I agree. Maybe Deron.

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    Correction. I was thinking 90-91 Bulls/Jordan so i stand corrected

    I still dont see how the Dream Team deals with this teams speed and outside shooting. Having 11 Hall of Famers is cool and all but its a different game now. You're a fool if you believe Drexler,Pippen,Barkley,Ewing Magic etc can keep pace with Durant, Paul,Iggy, James,Blake etc. FOH with that "smart ball" half-court shit. Old dudes will get ran off the floor and killed from 3 with Durant,Love and Kobe in half-court.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    In 1992 only Bird was past his prime and on retirement. Magic was old but still had game. He'd just gone to the Finals in 1991 and lost to the Bulls. ALL the other Dream Teamers were in their prime. Where are you getting the old legs against the young ones? This was when Barkley would get a rebound and drive it all the way down court for a dunk. This was when Malone was all power ball and not the fade away jumper. This was when Ewing would post up and was not playing the face up jumper game. You're either forgetting this time period or fooling yourself.

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    motown67 said:
    In 1992 only Bird was past his prime and on retirement. Magic was old but still had game. He'd just gone to the Finals in 1991 and lost to the Bulls. ALL the other Dream Teamers were in their prime. Where are you getting the old legs against the young ones? This was when Barkley would get a rebound and drive it all the way down court for a dunk. This was when Malone was all power ball and not the fade away jumper. This was when Ewing would post up and was not playing the face up jumper game. You're either forgetting this time period or fooling yourself.

    Dream Team had 2 players younger than 29 ....2012 team has 9

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    edpowers said:
    motown67 said:
    In 1992 only Bird was past his prime and on retirement. Magic was old but still had game. He'd just gone to the Finals in 1991 and lost to the Bulls. ALL the other Dream Teamers were in their prime. Where are you getting the old legs against the young ones? This was when Barkley would get a rebound and drive it all the way down court for a dunk. This was when Malone was all power ball and not the fade away jumper. This was when Ewing would post up and was not playing the face up jumper game. You're either forgetting this time period or fooling yourself.

    Dream Team had 2 players younger than 29 ....2012 team has 9

    Correction. 2012 team has 10 players under 29. Dream Team had 2

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    And? You would take a younger player rather than a player at their prime? You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?

    And if you want the young vs old argument Grant Hill was on NBA TV yesterday and said after the 1st game of college players vs the Dream team, which the kids one, the college players had a hard time getting the ball across half court in the next 3 games. And that college team had Grant Hill, Chris Webber, Allan Houston, Rodney Rogers, Jamal Mashburn, Bobby Hurley, and others.

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    motown67 said:
    And?.

    I was answering your question

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    motown67 said:
    You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?
    .

    Jordan's 3 point% was .270 in 91-92 ..Thats not questionable, thats garbage.......so i stand by what i first said..

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    edpowers said:
    motown67 said:
    You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?
    .

    Jordan's 3 point% was .270 in 91-92 ..Thats not questionable, thats garbage.......so i stand by what i first said..

    Cmon dude. Jordan was never a three point specialist.
    He scored 34 points pe game in the playoffs that summer without relying on the the 3.
    Dudes midrange was fine.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    edpowers said:
    motown67 said:
    You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?
    .

    Jordan's 3 point% was .270 in 91-92 ..Thats not questionable, thats garbage.......so i stand by what i first said..

    And he upped that to .352 in 92-93

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    Your young guns are playing right now and they haven't run once. They're playing half court and mostly taking jump shots.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    During the 92 Olympics Jordan shot .547 FG% and .391 from the 3.

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    batmon said:
    edpowers said:
    motown67 said:
    You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?
    .

    Jordan's 3 point% was .270 in 91-92 ..Thats not questionable, thats garbage.......so i stand by what i first said..

    Cmon dude. Jordan was never a three point specialist.
    He scored 34 points pe game in the playoffs that summer without relying on the the 3.
    Dudes midrange was fine.

    Im not searching for flaws in Jordan's game. Im just pointing out the fact that this year's team has a major advantage behind the 3 point line

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    edpowers said:
    batmon said:
    edpowers said:
    motown67 said:
    You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?
    .

    Jordan's 3 point% was .270 in 91-92 ..Thats not questionable, thats garbage.......so i stand by what i first said..

    Cmon dude. Jordan was never a three point specialist.
    He scored 34 points pe game in the playoffs that summer without relying on the the 3.
    Dudes midrange was fine.

    Im not searching for flaws in Jordan's game. Im just pointing out the fact that this year's team has a major advantage behind the 3 point line

    and a major disadvantage in the paint.

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    motown67 said:
    Your young guns are playing right now and they haven't run once. They're playing half court and mostly taking jump shots.

    Meanwhile... Durant was on fire from 3...good luck with Charles stopping that

    3 > 2

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    batmon said:
    edpowers said:
    batmon said:
    edpowers said:
    motown67 said:
    You would take the younger Jordan with the questionable jumper over the 92 Jordan with one?
    .

    Jordan's 3 point% was .270 in 91-92 ..Thats not questionable, thats garbage.......so i stand by what i first said..

    Cmon dude. Jordan was never a three point specialist.
    He scored 34 points pe game in the playoffs that summer without relying on the the 3.
    Dudes midrange was fine.

    Im not searching for flaws in Jordan's game. Im just pointing out the fact that this year's team has a major advantage behind the 3 point line

    and a major disadvantage in the paint.

    Meanwhile....Anthony Davis knocks down a 3.

    3 > 2

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    But nevermind all that....please to explain why The Pacers dumped Collison and Jones for that stiff ?


  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    Also Kobe does have a point in basically saying, the NBA has a LOT of superstars right now. Definitely the most since MJ retired.

    I mean there's Kobe, Durant, Lebron, Wade, Paul, Rose, Nowitzki, Westbrook, Duncan, Nash, Pierce, Ray Allen, KG......

    all these dudes are hall-of-famers....

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    edpowers said:
    But nevermind all that....please to explain why The Pacers dumped Collison and Jones for that stiff ?

    Hill knocked Collison ou of his job. Jones i liked but George and Orlando Johnson have knocked his ass out.
    Lance Stevenson is looking for minutes too.

    Plus we need a back up Center behind Hibbert.

    Pendergraph is a PF. West and Handsbrough have played the C when in need. But that shit aint working.

    Mahanmi or whatever I recall getting some minutes during Dallas Finals run. Ive seen him hustle.
    Heard he cant score a lick.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Dream Team in prime > 2012 Team in prime

    Not even close

    Find me one legit basketball pundit who says otherwise.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
    batmon said:


    Hill knocked Collison ou of his job. Jones i liked but George and Orlando Johnson have knocked his ass out.
    Lance Stevenson is looking for minutes too.

    Plus we need a back up Center behind Hibbert.

    Pendergraph is a PF. West and Handsbrough have played the C when in need. But that shit aint working.

    Mahanmi or whatever I recall getting some minutes during Dallas Finals run. Ive seen him hustle.
    Heard he cant score a lick.

    I was bummed when the Spurs lost Hill. That dude is a real gamer. Glad to see him getting his shine, but I wish he were still doing it in San Antonio.

    And yeah, you're pretty much on point about Mahinmi: All hustle, no skills. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you've got the right 4 other guys on the court with him.

  • Bon VivantBon Vivant The Eye of the Storm 2,018 Posts
    yuichi said:
    Also Kobe does have a point in basically saying, the NBA has a LOT of superstars right now. Definitely the most since MJ retired.

    I mean there's Kobe, Durant, Lebron, Wade, Paul, Rose, Nowitzki, Westbrook, Duncan, Nash, Pierce, Ray Allen, KG......

    all these dudes are hall-of-famers....

    Bit too early to tell on Durant, Westbrook and Rose.
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