What's going on with Wade? He seems so slow compared to what he used to be like. Are his knees just burned out?
If he gets going the Heat have a shot. If not.... Westbrook has a couple of years left in those knees.
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batmon said:
Miami will counter.
Miami cant really run with these kids. They need to slow shit up and make Westbrook a playmaker.
I would really like to see Nick Collison. Dude is like the West Coast Jeff Foster. Great Lunchpail glue player.
The first statement above was pretty much my scouting report before the series began. I think Miami should run a half-court trap on Westbrook to make him pick up the ball as he crosses the line. As you said, Batmon, if I were Erik Spoelstra, I'd want to force Westbrook to have to make a play out of the trap. My prediction is that at maximum, he will turn the ball over, at minimum, the trap shaves some time of the shot-clock forcing OKC to rush shots. Also, Miami should seek to limit the '"others'" scoring opportunities ala the mid-80's Celtics against the Bulls. Like the Celtics did with Jordan, the Heat have to recognize that Durant will get his points, so they should focus on stopping everyone else. Barring the above potential adjustments, the Heat can't see the Thunder.
Miami cant really run with these kids. They need to slow shit up and make Westbrook a playmaker.
I would really like to see Nick Collison. Dude is like the West Coast Jeff Foster. Great Lunchpail glue player.
The first statement above was pretty much my scouting report before the series began. I think Miami should run a half-court trap on Westbrook to make him pick up the ball as he crosses the line. As you said, Batmon, if I were Erik Spoelstra, I'd want to force Westbrook to have to make a play out of the trap. My prediction is that at maximum, he will turn the ball over, at minimum, the trap shaves some time of the shot-clock forcing OKC to rush shots. Also, Miami should seek to limit the '"others'" scoring opportunities ala the mid-80's Celtics against the Bulls. Like the Celtics did with Jordan, the Heat have to recognize that Durant will get his points, so they should focus on stopping everyone else. Barring the above potential adjustments, the Heat can't see the Thunder.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I agree. Let Durant go crazy and shut down Harden and them.
This is exactly what Miami is lacking although I'm sure KVH will counter with the benefits of getting 12 minutes out of Joel Anthony and Mike Miller.
I have a house plant that can out coach Spoelstra.
Thunder in 6
HA - OKC Is better because of Collison? No. They are two evenly matched teams - the 2 best in the NBA (arguably). Whoever wins best out of 7 will do so partly out of luck. Sorry, but that's what makes this an entertaining series.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
This is exactly what Miami is lacking although I'm sure KVH will counter with the benefits of getting 12 minutes out of Joel Anthony and Mike Miller.
I have a house plant that can out coach Spoelstra.
Thunder in 6
HA - OKC Is better because of Collison? No. They are two evenly matched teams - the 2 best in the NBA (arguably). Whoever wins best out of 7 will do so partly out of luck. Sorry, but that's what makes this an entertaining series.
Not Collison per se but much better overall role players....every team that wins every game in every sport does so partly by luck......what a concept.
Not Collison per se but much better overall role players....every team that wins every game in every sport does so partly by luck......what a concept.
No , that's just not correct. -The Heat or OKC would beat the Bobcats in a 7 game series every time. Luck is a major factor in this series because the teams are so evenly matched. My point is that people are wrong to think that any factor is the reason why the heat or okc takes the series. Way too much over analyzing with these teams.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
They aren't evenly matched imo.
Thunder have a big 3 just as good as the Heat's, plus better suited role players, and a deeper bench, and a better coach...and momentum.
Not Collison per se but much better overall role players....every team that wins every game in every sport does so partly by luck......what a concept.
No , that's just not correct. -The Heat or OKC would beat the Bobcats in a 7 game series every time. Luck is a major factor in this series because the teams are so evenly matched. My point is that people are wrong to think that any factor is the reason why the heat or okc takes the series. Way too much over analyzing with these teams.
Who did you pick in last years Finals....uh huh....that's what I thought.
Not Collison per se but much better overall role players....every team that wins every game in every sport does so partly by luck......what a concept.
No , that's just not correct. -The Heat or OKC would beat the Bobcats in a 7 game series every time. Luck is a major factor in this series because the teams are so evenly matched. My point is that people are wrong to think that any factor is the reason why the heat or okc takes the series. Way too much over analyzing with these teams.
Who did you pick in last years Finals....uh huh....that's what I thought.
I was glad Dallas won and will be happy to see OKC win. Miami is still very good though and capable of taking the series...that shouldn't be up for debate but you guys must know something i don't.
Not Collison per se but much better overall role players....every team that wins every game in every sport does so partly by luck......what a concept.
No , that's just not correct. -The Heat or OKC would beat the Bobcats in a 7 game series every time. Luck is a major factor in this series because the teams are so evenly matched. My point is that people are wrong to think that any factor is the reason why the heat or okc takes the series. Way too much over analyzing with these teams.
Who did you pick in last years Finals....uh huh....that's what I thought.
I was glad Dallas won and will be happy to see OKC win. Miami is still very good though and capable of taking the series...that shouldn't be up for debate but you guys must know something i don't.
Did you pick Dallas to win last year? If so my memory failed me and I apologize.
I didn't care about that series but I picked OKC to beat Dallas last year and that's when we had a heated debate about athleticism v. experience. I chose athleticism then and I will do so again this year. OKC has more of it than Miami. Dallas was the exception to the norm last year, like the Spurs and Celts this year - a dying bread.
thas what im saying. what happened to home court refs? despite miami "evening" the series, they obviously got a big leg up by taking home court advantage.
They did a breakdown of that last play on ESPN and the ref was behind Durant so didn't see Lebron's arm coming down across him
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Yes, Lebron's bank shot was extremely clutch. Then his 2 fouls on Durant and then the foul on whoever that was who was trying to put the miss back were also clutch. Or maybe it was the referee who was clutch in that instance. Thank you, David Stern, for wasting 2 hours of my time on that rubbish.
Yes, Lebron's bank shot was extremely clutch. Then his 2 fouls on Durant and then the foul on whoever that was who was trying to put the miss back were also clutch. Or maybe it was the referee who was clutch in that instance. Thank you, David Stern, for wasting 2 hours of my time on that rubbish.
If that foul would have been called, Miami fans would scream home cooking. And even if the call was made, they still would have probably lost. There are 99 reasons that OKC lost and the refs ain't one.
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Exactly...in a half court game the dude is dangerous but there is no way he can run with the young Thunder.
Only chance the Heat has is if they can turn it into a half court slowed down game....don't think that's gonna happen.
Well, you saw him last night! Dude had timely offensive rebounds and finishes. The type of player you hate on the opposing team cuz he busts his ass.
If he gets going the Heat have a shot. If not.... Westbrook has a couple of years left in those knees.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
I agree. Let Durant go crazy and shut down Harden and them.
Ooops ...i meant to say Nick get a ring. He's been doin that shit since Seattle.
HA - OKC Is better because of Collison? No. They are two evenly matched teams - the 2 best in the NBA (arguably). Whoever wins best out of 7 will do so partly out of luck. Sorry, but that's what makes this an entertaining series.
The Thunder are taking this series in 5 or less.
Reading quotes in the paper from James and Wade, it seems like they've already conceded defeat.
Not Collison per se but much better overall role players....every team that wins every game in every sport does so partly by luck......what a concept.
Also, has Wade always been kinda bitchy and I just never noticed, or is that a more recent development?
Wade is fine. He was crazy against Indiana. He's been getting off to slow starts. But he has the luxury to not hog the ball early.
It wasnt too long ago they had the ball in his hands for the whole damn game. He should be fine.
Its hard to make definitive conclusions after one game.
No , that's just not correct. -The Heat or OKC would beat the Bobcats in a 7 game series every time. Luck is a major factor in this series because the teams are so evenly matched. My point is that people are wrong to think that any factor is the reason why the heat or okc takes the series. Way too much over analyzing with these teams.
Thunder have a big 3 just as good as the Heat's, plus better suited role players, and a deeper bench, and a better coach...and momentum.
And chemsitry
But if the Heat win...it will be luck.
Who did you pick in last years Finals....uh huh....that's what I thought.
I was glad Dallas won and will be happy to see OKC win. Miami is still very good though and capable of taking the series...that shouldn't be up for debate but you guys must know something i don't.
Did you pick Dallas to win last year? If so my memory failed me and I apologize.
1 or 2 on the planet.
Wade digging deep/ Enter Bosh = Takes pressure off Bron
If that foul would have been called, Miami fans would scream home cooking. And even if the call was made, they still would have probably lost. There are 99 reasons that OKC lost and the refs ain't one.