The thread where you hate on Kanye's new album

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  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Related: I was just listening to some of the "Good Friday" songs again and for whatever reason (maybe because they don't have 3 minutes of noodling...well, most of them at least), many of them are sounding a lot better now. I can't believe I was complaining about "The Joy" using Curtis for too long.

    There's a small number of songs I would have rather heard swapped out between the GF tunes and the actual album - is anyone really going to defend "Blame Game" for example? - but I'm glad the final album didn't actually sound like the bulk of the GF songs. I do think including the "Power" remix as a bonus CD cut would have been a good move.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    mannybolone said:
    faux_rillz said:
    mannybolone said:
    I wasn't talking about it from a production p.o.v. though.

    I also definitely wouldn't say it was more ambitious than "3 Ft. High and Rising"

    Perhaps, but it's certainly a lot better.

    Aaaaaaaaaand we just added another 5 pages.

    That album is unlistenable.

    I am here to turn your sacred cows into beef.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    faux_rillz said:
    mannybolone said:
    faux_rillz said:
    mannybolone said:
    I wasn't talking about it from a production p.o.v. though.

    I also definitely wouldn't say it was more ambitious than "3 Ft. High and Rising"

    Perhaps, but it's certainly a lot better.

    Aaaaaaaaaand we just added another 5 pages.

    That album is unlistenable.

    I am here to turn your sacred cows into beef.

    U were like 13 when it came out

  • mannybolone said:

    - is anyone really going to defend "Blame Game" for example?

    Yeah! What i noticed is that the Good Friday songs i had heard before i liked more in context of the album. As an album i think MBDTF really works and thats the strength of it. So where i probably wouldn't like Blame Game much if i just heard it randomly, I really like it in context of the album (after Hell Of A Life's Black Sabbath noise).

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    faux_rillz said:


    I am here to turn your sacred cows into beef.

    Ha, for real, I can't remember the last time you and I actually stood in agreement over something hip-hop related.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Spacecho said:
    mannybolone said:

    - is anyone really going to defend "Blame Game" for example?

    Yeah! What i noticed is that the Good Friday songs i had heard before i liked more in context of the album. As an album i think MBDTF really works and thats the strength of it. So where i probably wouldn't like Blame Game much if i just heard it randomly, I really like it in context of the album (after Hell Of A Life's Black Sabbath noise).

    That song is 7:50 minutes too long.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Yall bitches made me cop this shit. Critique later. Fusk.

  • I'd like that Chris Rock skit much better without the "Yeezy taught me's."

    Also, I thought it was common knowledge that Faux didn't listen to rap until later in life? That could explain his lack
    of enthusiasm for 3 Feet High... I'm not sure if it would've impacted me as much had I heard it after some of the albums that followed it.

  • "Blame Game" is great.

  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts
    batmon said:
    Yall bitches made me cop this shit. Critique later. Fusk.

    same.

    lots of horns and violins so far...haha......rap opera......so far so good, but for those on the fence, watch his 30 min moonwalker-esque video. if you don't like that not sure you will dig this.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Jonny_Paycheck said:
    "Blame Game" is great.

    Agree

    Makes perfect sense w/in context of the album

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts

    so bad. but I like how he flips it.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    7.0

  • SIRUS said:
    (w

    + Tony Joe White's "Stud Spider" (which at one point I thought I discovered...Ha!)

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts


    ..there's a few more but they're mostly pretty dull.

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    the vocal sample on runaway is from a rick james live album?

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    All samples cleared.

    Dark Fantasy
    Contains samples of ???In High Places??? by Mike Oldfield

    Gorgeous feat. KiD CuDi & Raekwon
    Contains portions of the composition ???You Showed Me,??? written by Gene Clark and Roger McGuinn

    POWER
    Contains elements from the Cold Grits recording ???It???s Your Thing,???
    Contains elements of ???Afromerica??? (Francois Bernheim/Jean-Pierre Lang/Boris Bergman)
    Contains material sampled from ???21st Century Schizoid Man??? performed by King Crimson


    So Appalled feat. Swizz Beatz, JAY-Z, Pusha T, Prynce Cy Hi & The RZA
    Contains samples of the Manfred Mann???s Earth Band recording ???You Are ??? I Am.???


    Devil In A New Dress feat. Rick Ross
    Contains samples of the recording ???Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow??? as performed by Smokey Robinson.


    Runaway feat. Pusha T
    Contains a sample of ???Expo 83??? performed by Backyard Heavies
    Contains excerpts from Rick James ???Live at Long Beach, CA??? 1981,


    Hell Of A Life
    Contains samples of the Mojo Men recording ???She???s My Baby.???
    Contains samples of the Tony Joe White recording ???Stud-Spider.???
    Contains portions of ???Iron Man,??? written by T. Butler, A. Iommi, J. Osbourne and W.T. Ward


    Blame Game feat. John Legend
    Contains elements of ???Avril 14??? by Richard James


    Lost In The World feat. Bon Iver
    Contains portions of ???Soul Makossa,??? written by M. DiBango
    Contains a sample of the recording ???Think (About It)??? as performed by Lyn Collins.
    Contains samples of ???The Woods??? performed by Bon Iver
    Contains samples of ???Comment No. 1??? performed by Gil Scott-Heron,


    Who Will Survive In America
    Contains samples of ???Comment No. 1??? performed by Gil Scott-Heron

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    batmon said:
    faux_rillz said:
    mannybolone said:
    faux_rillz said:
    mannybolone said:
    I wasn't talking about it from a production p.o.v. though.

    I also definitely wouldn't say it was more ambitious than "3 Ft. High and Rising"

    Perhaps, but it's certainly a lot better.

    Aaaaaaaaaand we just added another 5 pages.

    That album is unlistenable.

    I am here to turn your sacred cows into beef.

    U were like 13 when it came out

    Kids in your building don't listen to rap?

    I was in middle school when this album dropped and, while I may not have had an analytical appreciation of what it did for sampling, I certainly heard it repeatedly. It was huge, and it would have been difficult to avoid hearing, even if you weren't particularly checking for rap.

    I'm not denying its importance--I keep a copy filed--but I think it aged quickly and badly, and I find it downright unlistenable in 2010. I felt pretty much the same way by the early nineties.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Herm said:

    Also, I thought it was common knowledge that Faux didn't listen to rap until later in life? That could explain his lack
    of enthusiasm for 3 Feet High... I'm not sure if it would've impacted me as much had I heard it after some of the albums that followed it.

    I have no idea what you're talking about, although I guess it wouldn't be a party without one of your passive-aggressive personal attacks.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    faux_rillz said:
    Jonny_Paycheck said:
    "Blame Game" is great.

    Agree

    Makes perfect sense w/in context of the album

    To add on to my earlier poast--I think the "Yeezy Taught Mes" are essential to the song. They're delivered with a bizarre robotic affect like an abuse victim. I find that dialog to be really awkward and uncomfortable to listen to. The fact that there is only a minimal effort to sync them up with Chris Rock's monologue in order to suggest interaction works perfectly. The album is, in part supposed to be a journey into Kanye's admittedly dark and twisted subconsciousness. The exchange reads to me like half-formed and fairly disturbing thoughts.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    faux_rillz said:

    I'm not denying its importance--I keep a copy filed--but I think it aged quickly and badly, and I find it downright unlistenable in 2010. I felt pretty much the same way by the early nineties.

    See, that's how I feel about Kanye's album, except it took 3 hours instead of 3 years.




















    (kidding! I do like the album, just not as much as others)

  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts
    too arty perhaps??? i think i need some more time to digest this album in my headphones, but so far i am not as impressed as the majority of you. and this is coming from a dude that for the most part cosigns all of Ye's work.

    apologies for this analogy, but for some reason i feel like i am listening to the Kid A of his catalog, when would rather be listening to his OK Computer. hardly something i am mad about though....just not sure if i am sold on it yet.

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    Pull up in the monster
    Automobile gangster
    With a bad b-tch that came from Sri Lanka
    Yeah I???m in that Tonka, colour of Willy Wonka
    You could be the King but watch the Queen conquer
    Ok first things first I???ll eat your brains
    Then I???mma start rocking gold teeth and fangs
    Casue that???s what a muthaf-cking monster do
    Hairdresser from milan, thats what monster do
    Monster Giuseppe heel that???s the monster shoe
    Young money is the roster and the monster crew
    And I???m all up all up all up in the bank with the funny face
    And if I???m fake I aint notice cause my money aint
    So let me get this straight wait I???m the rookie
    But my features and my shows ten times your pay
    50k for a verse no album out!
    Yeah my money???s so tall that my barbie???s gotta climb it
    Hotter than a middle eastern climate
    Find it 20 mataran dutty whine it
    While it, nicki on a pit while I sign it
    How these n-ggas so one-track minded
    But really really I don???t give a F-U-C-K
    Forget barbie f-ck nicki she???s fake
    She???s on a diet but my pockets eating cheese cake
    And I???ll say boy the Chucky is Child???s play
    Just killed another career it???s a mild day
    Besides ???Ye they can???t stand besides me
    I think me, you and (?) menage friday
    Pink wig thick ass give em whip lash
    I think big get cash make em blink fast
    Now look at what you just saw I think this is what you live for
    Aaahhhh, I???m a muthaf-cking monster!


  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    monster is easily the worst song on the record

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    SIRUS said:
    monster is easily the worst song on the record

    u buggin

  • faux_rillz said:
    Herm said:

    Also, I thought it was common knowledge that Faux didn't listen to rap until later in life? That could explain his lack
    of enthusiasm for 3 Feet High... I'm not sure if it would've impacted me as much had I heard it after some of the albums that followed it.

    I have no idea what you're talking about, although I guess it wouldn't be a party without one of your passive-aggressive personal attacks.

    Ha ha! Are you being serious? Holmes, that wasn't even a subtle dis much less a personal attack! I remember you saying that you were never a backpacker/Hip Hop head back in the day. I'm pretty sure you said this after I or somebody else made a statement about people who hate what they used to be/used to be into. I vaguely remember dudes teasing you about being into indie rock or grunge or something like that, but I think that part was a joke. Admittedly, I do have a bad memory so I could be wrong about certain parts of all that.

    Geez Louise.

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    mannybolone said:
    SIRUS said:
    monster is easily the worst song on the record

    u buggin

    rick ross is wtf, jay is corny, kanye is meh, niki annoys the shit out of me. what is the worst song on the rec in your opinion?
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