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  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    Just ask yourself how much that whole situation hurts you. I've been there before and hanging around with a girl that doesn't really want you while you are fiending for here is nagl. If you get along, fine, but from your posts it seems that your love for her > ability for a healthy friendship

    btw, love these threads. And "I tried to be someone else, but I could'nt memorize all the lines" is classy.

    Well, this situation doesn't hurt me at all. Believe it or not. Most likely not. I've had another "potential" relationship that didn't do too well. So the lessons I learned from that have taught me to not invest so much in her and keep my eyes open for others. But while I have my eyes open, it doesn't mean that I still can't see her. But we do get along very well. But a breatk would probably be the best move for me "for now."

    I love these threads, too. It only feels a bit odd when I'm reading about advice directed at me, though. AYAH!


    Start dropping hints that she's "not your type," that she would be "hot for a tranny," and whenever you're wearing sweatpants and get a boner you just think of her and it goes away - this last one seem really enthusiastic about it like its a great idea and you should've thought of it sooner.

    By making backhanded comments to her you'll tip the scales of power in your favor. On one hand, she can't outwardly be offended because you're "just friends" anyway, and on the other hand it lets her know that in your eyes you think that physically she's doo doo on a stick.

    After that you get her drunk and let her know you'll make out with her but only because you feel sorry for her because you know no normal guy would touch her without half a gallon of drive through vodka and a bad case of cataracts.

    You've set the stage for total control with a sexual overture and she's yours. Then when you're tired of her just insult her some more and let the eating disorder she's developed in the interim to handle the rest.

    It's all about building up and tearing down.

    b/w

    Girls that are into records aren't hot anyway so you're not missing out.

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    ^^
    this.

    Women have no interest in having sex with passive men.
    Unless, of course, those women are hairy, mouth-breathing ham-beasts with bad hygiene.

    b/w

    Man. The fuck. Up.

  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    Hey Incompletejigsaw,

    See my comments in this old-school 'Strut thread: "The Advantage of the Ladyfriend" regarding how to mack to the femmes. For real though, Bassie is droppin' science up in here!!! A veteran (older babe) back at U. of Akron (where I completed my grad studies during the mid to late 90s) said it best, a woman knows whether she wants to get with you or not within the first 10 minutes of meeting you. A younger babe I hooked up with (who worked at the local supermarket in Akron where I shopped) pretty much confirmed the above sentiments (i.e., "I've wanted to get with you since I first met you!") right before she attacked me (I'll leave it at that since we're in mixed company). So, if you're still waiting, I think you know what time it is. As Brass Construction said, "Keep Moving On..."

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
    Just ask yourself how much that whole situation hurts you. I've been there before and hanging around with a girl that doesn't really want you while you are fiending for here is nagl. If you get along, fine, but from your posts it seems that your love for her > ability for a healthy friendship

    btw, love these threads. And "I tried to be someone else, but I could'nt memorize all the lines" is classy.

    Well, this situation doesn't hurt me at all. Believe it or not. Most likely not. I've had another "potential" relationship that didn't do too well. So the lessons I learned from that have taught me to not invest so much in her and keep my eyes open for others. But while I have my eyes open, it doesn't mean that I still can't see her. But we do get along very well. But a breatk would probably be the best move for me "for now."

    I love these threads, too. It only feels a bit odd when I'm reading about advice directed at me, though. AYAH!


    Start dropping hints that she's "not your type," that she would be "hot for a tranny," and whenever you're wearing sweatpants and get a boner you just think of her and it goes away - this last one seem really enthusiastic about it like its a great idea and you should've thought of it sooner.

    By making backhanded comments to her you'll tip the scales of power in your favor. On one hand, she can't outwardly be offended because you're "just friends" anyway, and on the other hand it lets her know that in your eyes you think that physically she's doo doo on a stick.

    After that you get her drunk and let her know you'll make out with her but only because you feel sorry for her because you know no normal guy would touch her without half a gallon of drive through vodka and a bad case of cataracts.

    You've set the stage for total control with a sexual overture and she's yours. Then when you're tired of her just insult her some more and let the eating disorder she's developed in the interim to handle the rest.

    It's all about building up and tearing down.

    b/w

    Girls that are into records aren't hot anyway so you're not missing out.




    "...and that, children, is how babies are made."

  • hermes1hermes1 109 Posts
    There is only one way a single man can be friends with a woman he wants to bang and that?s when his balls are so drained from fucking other women that he feels no testicular pressure to act on his desire. You?ll notice that a typical sexually satisfied guy has lots of hot girl acquaintances he doesn?t bother trying to fuck because the effort required is not worth the very small marginal increase in pleasure or risk of losing the girls as social proof and as friends.

    This is really the ideal short-term situation to be in for a man ? swimming in pussy and therefore able to tolerate and even enjoy the friendship of unavailable hot girls without being overwhelmed by lust to corrupt their friendship status with intimate jackhammering.

    But in the long-term, the underlying male animal lust for a hot girl buddy must resolve itself, and even the most well-fed man will devour a filet mignon if it?s put on a plate in front of him every day. My advice: It?s best to take hot girl buddies in small doses. Like for two hours on a Friday night in a bar where you can leverage their hot friendship to build your options.

  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    There is only one way a single man can be friends with a woman he wants to bang and that?s when his balls are so drained from fucking other women that he feels no testicular pressure to act on his desire. You?ll notice that a typical sexually satisfied guy has lots of hot girl acquaintances he doesn?t bother trying to fuck because the effort required is not worth the very small marginal increase in pleasure or risk of losing the girls as social proof and as friends.

    This is really the ideal short-term situation to be in for a man ? swimming in pussy and therefore able to tolerate and even enjoy the friendship of unavailable hot girls without being overwhelmed by lust to corrupt their friendship status with intimate jackhammering.

    But in the long-term, the underlying male animal lust for a hot girl buddy must resolve itself, and even the most well-fed man will devour a filet mignon if it?s put on a plate in front of him every day. My advice: It?s best to take hot girl buddies in small doses. Like for two hours on a Friday night in a bar where you can leverage their hot friendship to build your options.



    "Price," of course, being a euphemism for "incompletejigsaw's dignity."

  • tripledoubletripledouble 7,636 Posts
    this is required reading for the single and married (cause yall know most of you are slowly getting stale and rusty). just pretend like you didnt see the picture of stacks' girly dog
    Hey Guys,

    Here is how you REALLY put the mack game down. Now I'll give you some history. Early on (pre-teens and early teens), I was went through a stage of being (a) shy and (b) pushing up on chicks too hard. I was far from a beautiful swan at the time, but along the way, I learned a few methods to making that hot babe want you.

    1. Approach differently than the average cat.

    -The key here is to be self-assured, go up to the babe, and tell her what you think about her. For example, walk up to her and say, "Pardon me, but I just wanted to tell you that I find you very attractive. That's why I have been looking at you tonight." At this point, make some small talk, maybe offer to buy a drink. Use this period as an introduction. Then, find some way of excusing yourself to prevent from "hovering" around her. Hovering reaks of desperation and creepiness. This is especially true if she is with a group of her friends.

    2. Don't sweat her.

    -There is nothing that a hot babe loves more than a guy that has other things to do. Bear in mind, hot babes are use to guys sweating them all the time, so doing so won't differentiate you from all the other losers. I successfully used this take with Demaris G****** at U of Akron. I kind of came up to her chill like, got the digits but acted like I could give a fuck after that. The essence of not sweatin' her is to (a) be different from other dudes, and (b) let her come to you.

    3. Be patient.

    -A lot of women have been fucked over by some loser back in the day. Because of this, she will be DEFENSIVE as hell. So, what's your mission? Disarm her ass. You disarm her by CHILLIN' THE FUCK OUT, and not coming on too COTDAMN STRONG. Let the romantic aspect of the social interaction unfold naturally don't force it.

    4. Let her make the first move.

    -Let's assume you and ole' girl have been kicking for a minute. You've had dinner, then your back at the pad chillin' out, watching movies or talking and having some cocktails. When you two get up close, wait for non-verbal cues of attraction. Here are some helpful cues to know she's diggin' you:

    a. Leaning toward you/Nuzzling up close to you.

    b. Touching you repeatedly why she talks.

    c. A lot of smiling.

    d. Gradually inching closer to you on the couch.

    e. Looking deeeeeeeeep into your eyes like you're the only man alive.

    At this point, you have the go-ahead with some tasteful touching. Some examples include (a) running your fingers through her hair, (b) gently stroking her cheek with the back of your hand, (c) touching her hand softly, or (d) putting your arm around her.

    If you've gotten this far, you are likely in the position to give her a kiss. This is tricky. The key is to move in slow and CAREFULLY watch her non-verbal reaction. If she draws back, CHILL!!!! But, if you've done it correctly, you will not have herb yourself. If she retreats, you can offer a gentle apology and say something like, "I'm sorry, but I am so moved by your [insert her name]. I am really enjoying our date tonight, and I really like you. I wouldn't want to make you uncomfortable" She will probably be moved by your sincerity and patience (and non-pigginess), and will initiate a kiss between you. In all likelihood, if you've handled steps 1-3 correctly, your "lean in for a kiss" will be well received. Kiss her gently, not all nasty and octopus like. Be chill with your shit, don't act like a hungry-ass, desperate dog. Act like you've been with a woman before (not like a pre-pubescent kid).

    At this point, it could be time to "hit the sack." DON'T BE AGGRESSIVE. Let her take control. There is nothing a hot babe loves more than a dude that doesn't press her. I remember with wifey (while we were dating), that I didn't press her about her indecision of whether or not to sleep with me for the first time. When she asked what she should do, I said, "It doesn't matter T***i, I really like you. I don't care if we have sex or not." And I really didn't because I was soooooo in to her. Needless to say, after that, it was a LOVELY evening.

    5. Don't be a brute in the bed.

    -When you're lovin' the babe, be gentle. Be very affectionate. By this I mean (a) touch her gently, (b) kiss her tenderly, (c) slowly rub her, and (d) hold her tenderly. Take your time during foreplay and again, GO SLOW. The key is to come off like you've had some pussy before, and not like some immature, juiced-up, teenage boy. It will usually take about 5-15 to get her warmed up. Otherwise, do so until she tells you that she wants "the johnson". Be sure to be gentle with the insertion too, and start off slow. You're not making a porno flick, but making love to a woman. The bonin' should start slow and gradually, as you feel her loosen up and "get into it", work up to a great crescendo to the climax. The point of all this is to give her the kinda lovin' that the average sex-starved herb won't give her. She'll be coming back for it again and again like a fiend if you put it down like I'm tellin' you to do.

    6. Don't get obsessive after the deed is done.

    -After doin' the "dirty deed," remain chill as in step 2. This will remind her that you're not pressed and not some sex-crazed, obsessed weirdo. Also, don't get possessive or jealous as well. Just keep the relationship on an easy-going mode as you've done up to this point. The point is after you bone her, don't start calling her every day, multiple times of day, because you'll come off like some pussy-whipped herb. A woman will treat you like you have it going on if you're really chill with how you put your mack down.

    Any questions??? Good luck!!!!

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • tripledoubletripledouble 7,636 Posts
    There is only one way a single man can be friends with a woman he wants to bang and that?s when his balls are so drained from fucking other women that he feels no testicular pressure to act on his desire. You?ll notice that a typical sexually satisfied guy has lots of hot girl acquaintances he doesn?t bother trying to fuck because the effort required is not worth the very small marginal increase in pleasure or risk of losing the girls as social proof and as friends.

    This is really the ideal short-term situation to be in for a man ? swimming in pussy and therefore able to tolerate and even enjoy the friendship of unavailable hot girls without being overwhelmed by lust to corrupt their friendship status with intimate jackhammering.

    But in the long-term, the underlying male animal lust for a hot girl buddy must resolve itself, and even the most well-fed man will devour a filet mignon if it?s put on a plate in front of him every day. My advice: It?s best to take hot girl buddies in small doses. Like for two hours on a Friday night in a bar where you can leverage their hot friendship to build your options.

    now thats what i'm talking about

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    Women have no interest in having sex with passive men.
    Unless, of course, those women are hairy, mouth-breathing ham-beasts with bad hygiene.

    Bullshit.

    There are enuff dominant personality women out there that like 'passive' cats. Not all women want Alpha Males.

    Quiet silent types get love too.

    I aint like that, but im just sayin.

    Adjust yo game to whatever the playing field gives you.

    If shorty likes to gab - listen.

    If she wants to hear you - gab.

  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    There are enuff dominant personality women out there that like 'passive' cats. Not all women want Alpha Males.

    That's how you wind up at the business end of a strap-on.

    I aint like that, but im just sayin.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    There are enuff dominant personality women out there that like 'passive' cats. Not all women want Alpha Males.

    That's how you wind up at the business end of a strap-on.

    I aint like that, but im just sayin.

    U sound Married.

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    Tell her that her butt look like a big ol apple and you wana take a bite.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts

  • incompletejigsaw, where are you from?

    I'm fron DC. But for everyone saying I'm a pansy, pussy, and a pushover, it's not so. I'm not a dominant character, although I exert it when necessary. I always take the lead in the dance and I always choose the places to go when we do hang out. I listen and observe more, and talk less. For me to exhibit a caveman mentality, I have to have a caveman body. When you're working with an Urkel-body, you have to use what it is you ARE blessed with. For me, I won her over with my humor and my writing. I think that it was my writing that she really got interested in me. Whenever she read my stuff, she would always share her stuff and say how our work is so similar. So from that point on, that's when we started to talk and build from each other.

  • There's no real science to it, contrary to what Cosmo mags or $100/hour shrinks would probably have you think. Friends - TRUE friends - are hard to come by no matter what gender. Everyone has their own little BS games they like to play and how they think what other people's "roles" should be. Don't get down but don't expect too much. Good luck!

    Thanks man. It's advice like so that keeps things in perspective for me. I'm never down and out, but I feel as if I've invested way more into it than she ever did. I think my heightened expectations of what I wanted made me blind to what I have, which is a wonderful woman who has been a great friend to me. Time for me to just cool it down and take my time, for all things that should be will be in due time. Too bad sometimes I feel as if Time is taking its sweet time to help me get what I should in due time.

  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    incompletejigsaw, where are you from?

    I'm fron DC. But for everyone saying I'm a pansy, pussy, and a pushover, it's not so. I'm not a dominant character, although I exert it when necessary. I always take the lead in the dance and I always choose the places to go when we do hang out. I listen and observe more, and talk less. For me to exhibit a caveman mentality, I have to have a caveman body. When you're working with an Urkel-body, you have to use what it is you ARE blessed with. For me, I won her over with my humor and my writing. I think that it was my writing that she really got interested in me. Whenever she read my stuff, she would always share her stuff and say how our work is so similar. So from that point on, that's when we started to talk and build from each other.

    This sounds contrary to the rest of the posts you've made. It didn't sound like she's really that into you.

  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    There are enuff dominant personality women out there that like 'passive' cats. Not all women want Alpha Males.

    That's how you wind up at the business end of a strap-on.

    I aint like that, but im just sayin.

    U sound Married.

    What part of that makes me sound married?

  • So I guess nobody recommends the D.E.N.N.I.S system?!

  • incompletejigsaw, where are you from?

    I'm fron DC. But for everyone saying I'm a pansy, pussy, and a pushover, it's not so. I'm not a dominant character, although I exert it when necessary. I always take the lead in the dance and I always choose the places to go when we do hang out. I listen and observe more, and talk less. For me to exhibit a caveman mentality, I have to have a caveman body. When you're working with an Urkel-body, you have to use what it is you ARE blessed with. For me, I won her over with my humor and my writing. I think that it was my writing that she really got interested in me. Whenever she read my stuff, she would always share her stuff and say how our work is so similar. So from that point on, that's when we started to talk and build from each other.

    This sounds contrary to the rest of the posts you've made. It didn't sound like she's really that into you.

    I don't think that she's into me as a potential for a relationship, but in our friendship she had always been interested in my writing, whether it be lame attempts at poetry or my screenplays. I was into her poetry, which was why I even made attempts to try to do it. So I guess she's into my WORK, not ME.

  • fishmongerfunkfishmongerfunk 4,154 Posts
    oy vey.

  • highschemehighscheme 784 Posts
    ok this has gone too far it can't be serious

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    ok this has gone too far it can't be serious
    pleez let this be a alias.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    I won her over[/b] with my humor and my writing. I think that it was my writing that she really got interested in me.

    If you really "won her over," you guys would be sleeping next to each other by now.

    I don't mean to be crude, but you've known her for a while now (four years?) and it's already gone as far as it's going to go. For your sake, I hope I'm wrong and she starts looking at you romantically. But it doesn't look like it's going to go that way.

    There is a time and a place for opposite-sex friends, don't get me wrong. But it's springtime, and we're all hornier than Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass. If things don't get better within six months, you're going to wish you had that six months BACK.

    It sounds like she means a lot to you. Don't stop the friendship, but don't put your sex drives on hold either. The places y'all go, she can't be the only hot girl in the house. Get her to hook you up with somebody else, continually mention an interest in other ladies (even the ones you haven't met yet), strike up a convo with another fine girl and tell her to fade into the background, or just take her friendship for what it is and roll with it. Don't "take (your) time," just spend that time on someone else. Put some bass in your voice and ask another girl for what you want. And if there are no prospects, just lay back and mind your business until your ship comes in. But don't be lusting over something you can't get. Not good for your ego.

    That's not called being a "caveman," that's called self-preservation.

  • ok this has gone too far it can't be serious

    The more and more that I read each comment and think of the actual situation that I'm in, even I am beginning to believe that it can't be serious. GEWW!

  • tripledoubletripledouble 7,636 Posts
    There's no real science to it, contrary to what Cosmo mags or $100/hour shrinks would probably have you think. Friends - TRUE friends - are hard to come by no matter what gender. Everyone has their own little BS games they like to play and how they think what other people's "roles" should be. Don't get down but don't expect too much. Good luck!

    Thanks man. It's advice like so that keeps things in perspective for me. I'm never down and out, but I feel as if I've invested way more into it than she ever did. I think my heightened expectations of what I wanted made me blind to what I have, which is a wonderful woman who has been a great friend to me. Time for me to just cool it down and take my time, for all things that should be will be in due time. Too bad sometimes I feel as if Time is taking its sweet time to help me get what I should in due time.

    homie, you send like a good guy.
    stop dwelling on that girl
    stop dwelling on this type of shit
    change your avatar
    go out and get with some wonderful ladies who you may not even be that physicaly atracted to at first
    and dont feel bad about nothing
    enjoy yourself and make merry and avoid the shit that prevents you from such

    and if you are an alias....burn in hell

    thank you
    come again

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts


    Oh, she knows the deal. She's quite a vinyl head herself. Not an avid collector, but she knows what she wants. Apparently it's not me. GEWW!

    The more and more that I read each comment and think of the actual situation that I'm in, even I am beginning to believe that it can't be serious. GEWW!

    I love these threads, too. It only feels a bit odd when I'm reading about advice directed at me, though. AYAH!


    You are KILLING IT with the onomatapeia, brother. GEWW! AYAH!

  • tripledoubletripledouble 7,636 Posts
    bravo pickwick!

    andjigsaw...what the fuck kind of writing is GEWWW???!
    cease that shit

  • hermes1hermes1 109 Posts
    hey jigsaw im not calling you a pussy per se; but i have observed this scenario play out like a predictable hollywood script literally hundreds of times in my life. and from various angles and with many different types of males/females, rich, poor, ugly, attractive, educated and non-educated.

    Let me sum it up.
    Most of the time, like 99.9999 percent of the time....

    The niceguy who has a girl buddy he secretly wants to screw is not really a friend to her at all, and vice versa. To the exploitative girl, he is merely a tool to massage her ego, abetting her pulling therapeutic self-absorbed shit that no self respecting male would ever tolerate.

    To the niceguy, her friendship is just a complicated schematic for finding some backchannel weasely way into her pants as substitute for his lack of courage to bust a move and dignity to walk away when his feelings aren?t reciprocated.

    And that?s the core problem for niceguys. They are so afraid they?ll never find a girl who will love them that they?d rather degrade themselves clinging endlessly to unsympathetic girl buddies under the pretense that maybe one day she?ll see the lion inside and finally succumb to his charms. The "let's just be friends" racket has had a monopoly on weak men for a long time, possibly since the first caveman consoled a cavegirl bitching about her tribal leader boyfriend by letting her nuzzle into his shoulder as he said ?there, there? and struggled against a mighty boner under his furs.

    My advice to any "Let's just be friends" situations would be to drop the whole idea of being "friends" until you are fucking many women (or at least a different one). It's much better than holding excruciatingly sterile platonic conversations with her about the minutiae of her life.

    no man wants to be a cute girl?s emotional tampon. fulfilling her emotional needs while having your physical needs denied is a one way street to bitterness in my opinion.

  • I won her over[/b] with my humor and my writing. I think that it was my writing that she really got interested in me.

    If you really "won her over," you guys would be sleeping next to each other by now.

    I don't mean to be crude, but you've known her for a while now (four years?) and it's already gone as far as it's going to go. For your sake, I hope I'm wrong and she starts looking at you romantically. But it doesn't look like it's going to go that way.

    There is a time and a place for opposite-sex friends, don't get me wrong. But it's springtime, and we're all hornier than Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass. If things don't get better within six months, you're going to wish you had that six months BACK.

    It sounds like she means a lot to you. Don't stop the friendship, but don't put your sex drives on hold either. The places y'all go, she can't be the only hot girl in the house. Get her to hook you up with somebody else, continually mention an interest in other ladies (even the ones you haven't met yet), strike up a convo with another fine girl and tell her to fade into the background, or just take her friendship for what it is and roll with it. Don't "take (your) time," just spend that time on someone else. Put some bass in your voice and ask another girl for what you want. And if there are no prospects, just lay back and mind your business until your ship comes in. But don't be lusting over something you can't get. Not good for your ego.

    That's not called being a "caveman," that's called self-preservation.

    I should've chose my words differently. I meant that our friendship grew when she realized that I was into writing and watching me perform at the Improv. But as for being bunk buddies, that was never my intention with her. True, four years is a long time, but only 2 of those four were we actually friends and talking to each other. The other two I was just on the sidelines and she was somewhere else, trying to take over Broadway. One play at a time. As for springtime, I've already set this as a sabbatical from her. It's not that I haven't been eyeing others during this entire time. Trust me. I have. So I think this summer is going to be an eventful one for me.

    I truly got to thank you and all the rest of you for all the advice that I've gotten. Whether or not it was helpful, I'll soon find out. But that's why I love these threads.

  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts
    jesus
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