People really need to chill before they take any SINGLE poll and try to make too much of it:b,121b,121"Five of the eight tracking polls moved toward Barack Obama today; the other three moved toward McCain. It's possible that there was a very slight shift in momentum toward John McCain last week, and that it's been counteracted by a similar shift toward Barack Obama after the Colin Powell endorsement. It's also possible that we've simply been reading too much into what amounts to statistical noise. Either way, our Super Tracker thinks that Obama is now no more than half a point off his peak numbers, which were realized earlier this month."b,121a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/" target="_blank"1http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/b,121b,121b,121Look, Pew put this out today, based on THEIR poll:b,121b,121"Doubts Grow About McCain's Judgment, Age and Campaignb,121b,121Obama's Lead Widens: 52%-38%"b,121a href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1000/obama-lead-widens" target="_blank"1http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1000/obama-lead-widensb,121b,121b,121Maybe AP is wrong. Maybe Pew is wrong. The point? Take things with a grain of salt on any single poll. b,121b,121Averaging the polls is a slight improvement - there's historical precedence to suggest that this has been accurate (though not perfectly so) the last 30 years. And what do the averages say?b,121b,121538: 51.8 --- 46.8 (Obama/McCain)b,121RCP: 49.9 --- 42.9b,121b,121Don't be complacent...but don't freak out.
By the way - these two leading google headlines are going to be magic for Obama:b,121b,121"Dow skids more than 500 on profit forecast worries"b,121"GOP spent $150,000 in donations on Palin's look"
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121YUCKb,121b,121 /font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121 AP presidential poll: Race tightens in final weeks b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Finally, our time has come!b,121b,121img src=http://www.soccerooligans.com.au/images/HIPPIE.jpg1b,121b,121"we're gonna paint the White House tye-dye!" b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121no doubt. All the grand steak houses of Washington will be closed to make way for new yoghurt tofu food co-ops. Cigars and bowties will be banned. President Obama will erect a Department of Peace and appoint Crosby, Stills and Nash as co-secretaries of global humanism.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121All the grand steak houses of Washington will be closed to make way for new yoghurt tofu food co-ops. b,121b,121Cigars and bowties will be banned. b,121b,121President Obama will erect a Department of Peace and appoint Crosby, Stills and Nash as co-secretaries of global humanism. b,121b,121h,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121Also the American people blame Republicans for the financial crisis. There is a strong argument that if there is political blame it is bipartisan here, but never mind. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21That the melt down is bi-partisan is undeniable. b,121b, 21That the economic ideas that led to the break down are Republican is also undeniable. b,121b, 21Most importantly that we enter this economic meltdown deeply in debt with the budget surplus of 2000 a distant memory is the Republicans fault. b,121b, 21I hope you enjoyed your ride while it lasted. It is time for the grown ups to come in and clean up your mess.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121[ It is time for the grown ups to come in and clean up your mess. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I don't know if I share your faith in the Democrats being any more capable of managing this shit, but hey, why not see what happens?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121Also the American people blame Republicans for the financial crisis. There is a strong argument that if there is political blame it is bipartisan here, but never mind. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21That the melt down is bi-partisan is undeniable. b,121b, 21That the economic ideas that led to the break down are Republican is also undeniable. b,121b, 21Most importantly that we enter this economic meltdown deeply in debt with the budget surplus of 2000 a distant memory is the Republicans fault. b,121b, 21I hope you enjoyed your ride while it lasted. It is time for the grown ups to come in and clean up your mess. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Good point. Capitalism is, I suppose, a Republican economic idea. And I too worry about the 11 trillion dollar debt, particularly if the Chinese and Indians stop purchasing our bonds. But I don't get the impression St. Baracketh is going to balance the budget. Indeed, he's talking like he is going to create even greater debt. You may like what his debt is going towards. But I don't think his administration will be "grown up" in a fiscal sense.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121[ It is time for the grown ups to come in and clean up your mess. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I don't know if I share your faith in the Democrats being any more capable of managing this shit, but hey, why not see what happens? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21I hear you. I was just quoting back something the Rs were saying in 2000.b,121b, 21This mess will take a long time to clean up. It will require that Rs quit being obstructionist. We will all have to work together. Even if the Republicans don't like Obama it is important that they support him and show respect for the office of the presidency. b,121b,121You know they are saying there are 50 trillion dollars in CSS, derivatives and all these other "investments" that are backed by absolutely nothing? We are only experiencing the tip of the iceberg.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121That the melt down is bi-partisan is undeniable. b,121b, 21 b1That the sitting GOP President was utterly, terrifyingly inept and basically absent during the whole thing is also undeniable./b1 b,121b,121b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121seriously; never have I seen the leadership game played so badly. b,121b,121it's almost sad to watch Bush this past year. one-by-one he's basically tossed aside his policies, most frighteningly on the foreign policy front (Iran- and NK-related).
Evidently MSNBC/NBC is already holding a wake for McCain/Palin. Now I am definitely on the liberal tip but this was just awful reporting. b,121b,121I am having visions of Chuck Todd as a really bad mentalist working in a dive club... "You have a relative that has an 'A' in their name, right?" b,121b,121The Bullworth comment near the end is just so wrong.b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nagl2.gif" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Sometimes I do almost feel sorry for Bush.b,121b,121b,121Sorta.... b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Really!?!b,121b,1219/11b,121Afghanistanb,121no Osamab,121Iraqb, 21Gitmob,121tortureb,121wire tappingb,121FEMAb, 21Mortgage Crisisb,121Recession?b,121Depression??b,121b, 21and the dude can't string together a sentence to save his life.b,121b,121Dude was privileged yuppie scum who had no business running a country. I'm amazed he was reelected. I'm more amazed that Bush 3 (McCain) is getting so much support.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Evidently MSNBC/NBC is already holding a wake for McCain/Palin. Now I am definitely on the liberal tip but this was just awful reporting. b,121b,121I am having visions of Chuck Todd as a really bad mentalist working in a dive club... "You have a relative that has an 'A' in their name, right?" b,121b,121The Bullworth comment near the end is just so wrong.b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nagl2.gif" alt="" 21 b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121What a waste of 5 minutes of my life. b,121b,121Don't you hate it when the sports casters start talking about one team having won b,121the game when there are still 10 minutes left to play?b,121b, 21MSNBC is lamer than fox.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Cigars and bowties will be banned. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Never that, son! Like a Black dude is gonna ban blunts. And as for bow ties...you know who's gonna replace the Secret Service, right?b,121b,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Cigars and bowties will be banned. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Never that, son! Like a Black dude is gonna ban blunts. And as for bow ties...you know who's gonna replace the Secret Service, right?b,121b,121 b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pasue23is.gif" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121Also the American people blame Republicans for the financial crisis. There is a strong argument that if there is political blame it is bipartisan here, but never mind. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21That the melt down is bi-partisan is undeniable. b,121b, 21That the economic ideas that led to the break down are Republican is also undeniable. b,121b, 21Most importantly that we enter this economic meltdown deeply in debt with the budget surplus of 2000 a distant memory is the Republicans fault. b,121b, 21I hope you enjoyed your ride while it lasted. It is time for the grown ups to come in and clean up your mess. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21You can argue that Dems started steering the wrong way back with Clinton, but even if this is your agument (and it is not one I completely agree with), then what was the last 8 years --6 of which were COMPLETELY GOP run--- about if not fully directing the economic ship into the rocks?? No party has a lock on fiscal policy, but just the FACTS of who has been steering the ship called the US Govt for the last 8 years should be proof that REPUBLICANS CAN'T GOVERN. They are not anti-american, they are not THEM as opposed to US, they are simply INCOMPETENT at GOVERNING. b,121b, 21The saddest part of a potential win for McCain is that the American people will essentially be REWARDING UTTER FAILURE. Now THAT is anti-American.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121MSNBC is lamer than fox. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'd agree were it not for Rachel Maddow. She's pretty much that network's saving grace. But besides her, yeah, MSNBC = img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/weaksauce.gif" alt="" 21
font class="post"1b,121b, 21b, 21 1. The tragic hero is a character of noble stature and has greatness. This should be readily evident in the play. The character must occupy a "high" status position but must ALSO embody nobility and virtue as part of his/her innate character./b1 b,121b,121Are U serious?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121It's just the term's name.b,121b,121Look it up -- you'll find a href="http://vccslitonline.cc.va.us/tragedy/aristotle.htm" target="_blank"1it fits him perfectly./a1 b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I see where you're going...but a better tragic here would be McCain (assuming he loses). b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21 /font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121 Loc: "I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a gook," John McCain said. "Gook," he said, "is the kindest appellation I can give." b,121b,121h,121
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