McCain is out of control! b,121b,121Missed the first half, but my favorite part has to be the miltiary-to-teacher plan. No need for the pesky "tests" and "certifications." Shit is wacky. McCain can't think that's a good idea. b,121b,121From Iraq to the inner city, soldiers in the classroom. Country first!
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I think it was the best debate by far because they got into each other a little bit.b,121b,121Overall, McCain's staff should be fired. Ever since the Republican convention they decided to go negative more and more and drop trying to appeal to independents and moderates. That has gone no where and since the economy is tanking, it has actually made him completely out of touch. All those attacks appeal to are the Republican base and that's simply not goinng to win it for him, yet that's all he's got. Plus when McCain does talk about policy he has flip flopped so much he doesn't even believe in anything anymore. Today he gave a speech where he said he's going to get the government back into regulating the economy for example, WTF??? This was the de-regulator just a couple months ago. The guy has sold his soul, to a bunch of hack advisers who just seem desparate and clueless as to how to dig their man out of the hole. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121My imperfect insight into the campaign is that McCain doesn't listen to anyone except his friends Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman. Meanwhile the senior staff come up with crazy ideas every few days--like let's declare war on the New York Times.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121This is it for him... he'll stay on as a senator; but, after this, he's just playing out the string as some perpetual-politician. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Why are the republicans still promoting offshore drilling with oil at $79 a barrel? Are they actively seeking to destroy the environment? b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Has he not learned from Al Gore in 2000?!b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121b,121b,121AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH 2 : Energy Independence and how to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much.b,121b,121AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH 2: Tuckered Out, No Oil in the Cainb,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121i'm really sick of the scalpel/axe analogyb,121b,121h,121b,121b,121b,121for real, he took that WAY out of contextb,121plumbers use Snakes and Wenches. b,121Not scalpels and axes. b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121opps. I meant wwwwwwrenches.
I thought it was McCain's best performance, but it doesn't matter. There is a global financial clusterfuck. Democrats will control all branches of government and Republicans will be weakened in a way the party has not known since Roosevelt's election in 1932. I found it bizarre that Joe the Plumber seemed to dominate the debate and that the candidates awkwardly addressed him personally. I was trying to imagine what it would be like if two candidates addressed me directly in a debate. I am pleased that Obama is at least choosing to campaign as center-right now on nearly all things--he will cut your taxes, he wants a line item veto, he likes charter schools and firing public school teachers, clean coal technology, more dirty war in Pakistan, keeping troops in Iraq etc... I hope hope hope he is not a surreptitious radical, saying all these things because his true agenda would render him unelectable. I suppose I think he means it. And I am pleased a black man will be president. And McCain saying that ACORN's fraudulence is the greatest electoral crime in US history is bizarre, what about the 1960 election when Joe Kennedy purchased whole counties in West Virginia and Mayor Daley delivered Chicago to Kennedy?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I hope hope hope he is not a surreptitious radical, saying all these things because his true agenda would render him unelectable. I suppose I think he means it.b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Obama's choice of Joe Biden to me underscores that he's got a good, pragmatic head on his shoulders. Biden was the perfect "my decision"/right decision choice for Obama, and, as it is effectively the first presidential decision the candidates make, it proves the young Senator to - at very least - posess a non-temporal frame of mind when making his decisions. That should be reassuring to many folks, and I include myself in that number.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121 And McCain saying that ACORN's fraudulence is the greatest electoral crime in US history is bizarre, what about the 1960 election when Joe Kennedy purchased whole counties in West Virginia and Mayor Daley delivered Chicago to Kennedy? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Or, gee, I dunno, that little dust up with Katherine Harris delivering FL for Bush in 2000...I would say that trumps a bunch of fake names that will be thrown out or never have a single vote cast on them.
Best line of the night:b,121b,121???And I think the fact that this has become such an important part of your campaign, Senator McCain, says more about your campaign than it says about me.???
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121 And McCain saying that ACORN's fraudulence is the greatest electoral crime in US history is bizarre, what about the 1960 election when Joe Kennedy purchased whole counties in West Virginia and Mayor Daley delivered Chicago to Kennedy? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Or, gee, I dunno, that little dust up with Katherine Harris delivering FL for Bush in 2000...I would say that trumps a bunch of fake names that will be thrown out or never have a single vote cast on them. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121Birdman with the :zing:
b,121b,121Can someone please tell me what is going on here? Is McCain choking/coughing?b,121So bizarre. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121Its just one of those magic shots you get when you shoot photos. Remember that point where McCain was looking for which direction he was going to go around the table to talk to the moderator? I think that is when he did that silly little dance and some journo caught him at the magic moment.b,121b,121I really thought it was photoshopped at first until I saw that Reuters put it out on the wires. Ugh.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I don't even know what to do with this:b,121b,121 b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121It's the same face that Jabba the Hutt pulled when getting strangled by Leia b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121WINNER b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121BTW, is this Dukakis popping out of a tank that we are looking at? Or, John Kerry on a surfboard?
In the shower this morning I was trying to imagine the hilarity that would have been if Ron Paul were at the debate instead of McCain.b,121b,121"Tell America what you would do to fix the economy."b,121"BLOW UP THE NATIONAL RESERVE!"b,121b,121b,121"Uh.... Senator Obama, your response...?"b,121"Uhhh...."
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Yeah dude, Ron Paul is wacky and everyone in Texas is out to get you.
About 5 minutes into the debate I thought I heard Obama misspeak on his tax plan... up until last night everything I've heard and read stated that under his plan only those with incomes over $250K would have a tax hike....I swore last night he said $200K......did I hear it incorrectly?? Was it indeed a mistake or has the plan changed??
i think you may have heard incorrectly. he stumbled over his words a bit when he was talking before thinking-- he started by describing his plan as "there would be an increase on anyone above two hund..." and realizing that that doesn't play well, he began his sentence again with "anyone making under 250k..."b,121b,121or something to that effect.b,121b,121then again, i was busy screamingb,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Apparently a dude down the street from me lost his shit during the middle of the debate. First he was breaking things in his crib and screaming "F*ck you John McCain" at the TV. Then he went to his window and announced "hear me people of Brooklyn vote for Barack Obama or your mind and body will die". Finally he ran out of his house into the middle of the street and yelled "John McCain eat my ass". I kinda understand where he's coming from. This shit has gone on entirely too long. "b,121b,121h,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBERb,121JOE THE PLUMBER b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121zeke the plumberb,121zeke the plumberb,121b,121
I only heard snippets on NPR on my way home last night but I could swear that when asked about Supreme Court nominees McCain said Obama voted against confirming Roberts and Breyer. Did I hear that right?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I only heard snippets on NPR on my way home last night but I could swear that when asked about Supreme Court nominees McCain said Obama voted against confirming Roberts and Breyer. Did I hear that right? b,121b,121h,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I only heard snippets on NPR on my way home last night but I could swear that when asked about Supreme Court nominees McCain said Obama voted against confirming Roberts and Breyer. Did I hear that right? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121b,121That's what I heard. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121obviously he meant Alito, but it was funny nonetheless. Obama couldn't exactly come back with "I wasn't even in the Senate when Breyer was nominated" as that would only give McCain an opening to claim inexperience!
I went to Youtube and sure enough at about the 5:20 mark he said "Tax breaks for those who make less than $200K".b,121b,121I hope it doesn't get any lower over the next 3 weeks.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I went to Youtube and sure enough at about the 5:20 mark he said "Tax breaks for those who make less than $200K".b,121b,121I hope it doesn't get any lower over the next 3 weeks. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121^^^ revealed!b,121b,121Fusk that - I want a piece of Rock's pie.
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