Quote:/font1h,121b,121Also, its kind of sad that conservative commentators are celebrating McCain's strong effort to try and differentiate himself from his conservative, Republican predecessor. If hes not conservative and Republican then who is John McCain? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121At what point will McCain just come out and say "I piss all over everyone, even my own party and that's why you should vote for me! Maverick! Vouchers!"b,121b,121And I am not sure McCain understands the difference between vouchers and Charter schools, or maybe it's me who doesn't. But that was the first I have heard that Chancellor Rhee (the head of the DC school system) supports vouchers. I know she supports paying students actual money in reward programs, but I don't think it makes sense to have a head of a public school system to support ways for families to abandon it using vouchers. I need to do some homework, but personally I have always thought vouchers were counter-productive and a gateway to overall privatization.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121What? Does McCain want to do away with teacher certification? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121This was the weirdest part. Did anybody else heart McCain say that war veterans would be exempt from teaching training and certification? Sounds like a terrible recipe right there. b,121b,121h,121b,1214 Cereal? b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121So I believe that we need to reward these good teachers.b,121b,121We need to encourage programs such as Teach for America and Troops to Teachers where people, after having served in the military, can go right to teaching and not have to take these examinations which ??? or have the certification that some are required in some states.[/b]b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121http://aftercancernowwhat.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/the-final-debate-mccain-vs-obama-transcript/b,121b,121I mean, I'm sure they'd keep jr. high school kids in line, but I'd rather not have a vet with PTSD and no classroom training.
Apparently a dude down the street from me lost his shit during the middle of the debate. First he was breaking things in his crib and screaming "F*ck you John McCain" at the TV. Then he went to his window and announced "hear me people of Brooklyn vote for Barack Obama or your mind and body will die". Finally he ran out of his house into the middle of the street and yelled "John McCain eat my ass". I kinda understand where he's coming from. This shit has gone on entirely too long.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Apparently a dude down the street from me lost his shit during the middle of the debate. First he was breaking things in his crib and screaming "F*ck you John McCain" at the TV. Then he went to his window and announced "hear me people of Brooklyn vote for Barack Obama or your mind and body will die". Finally he ran out of his house into the middle of the street and yelled "John McCain eat my ass". I kinda understand where he's coming from. This shit has gone on entirely too long. b,121b,121h,121
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Also, its kind of sad that conservative commentators are celebrating McCain's strong effort to try and differentiate himself from his conservative, Republican predecessor. If hes not conservative and Republican then who is John McCain? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121At what point will McCain just come out and say "I piss all over everyone, even my own party and that's why you should vote for me! Maverick! Vouchers!"b,121b,121And I am not sure McCain understands the difference between vouchers and Charter schools, or maybe it's me who doesn't. But that was the first I have heard that Chancellor Rhee (the head of the DC school system) supports vouchers. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121It was the first that Barack had heard of it as well.b,121b,121Most likely explanation is that McCain simply doesn't understand the difference.
mark halperin is such a hack - what a desperate attempt to make this into a horserace w/ mccain 'comeback' grades. polls are all saying obama won right?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121mark halperin is such a hack - what a desperate attempt to make this into a horserace w/ mccain 'comeback' grades. polls are all saying obama won right? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Overwhelmingly. b,121b,121It's just incredible how tone-deaf McCain's campaign has been the last few weeks. It's like the days of Rove were pure myth, along with unicorns and pixies.
I think it was the best debate by far because they got into each other a little bit.b,121b,121Overall, McCain's staff should be fired. Ever since the Republican convention they decided to go negative more and more and drop trying to appeal to independents and moderates. That has gone no where and since the economy is tanking, it has actually made him completely out of touch. All those attacks appeal to are the Republican base and that's simply not goinng to win it for him, yet that's all he's got. Plus when McCain does talk about policy he has flip flopped so much he doesn't even believe in anything anymore. Today he gave a speech where he said he's going to get the government back into regulating the economy for example, WTF??? This was the de-regulator just a couple months ago. The guy has sold his soul, to a bunch of hack advisers who just seem desparate and clueless as to how to dig their man out of the hole.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121 All those attacks appeal to are the Republican base and that's simply not goinng to win it for him, yet that's all he's got.b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Sayin. Perhaps if this had been the 1st debate it may have garnered a bit more attention/respect from the media and independents (ala, old man is a fighter), but now it just seems like some Hail Mary throw to try and slow the Obama campaign.b,121b,121I do have to admit that I have continually misjudged each debate to give more points to the McCain camp (although never the outright win). I am happy to be wrong with my impression of each of these debates thus far.b,121b,121and a footnote, i hope in years forward, people treat McCains little side comments/sneering with the same contempt as Gore's pathetic sighing. bitch-made amateur shit.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121The conservatives on CNN is all over McCain's jock right now. Weird. Maybe they were watching a different debate? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121i don't know how to judge a debate when you disagree with every position of one of the candidates. maybe you grade on style! the only channel i can tolerate post debate is msnbc because i have such contempt for republicans...but even maddow and olberman are forced to discuss who "won" without really talking about how much they disagree with mccain's political agenda. instead, they end up focusing on style issues like mccain's tone and obama's coolness.
I'd love to see what it is that McCain writes on that pad of his during debates.b,121b,121My guess is that it's a bunch of really frightening stick figure drawings.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121The conservatives on CNN is all over McCain's jock right now. Weird. Maybe they were watching a different debate? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Sorry to tell you folks, but John McCain had a pretty strong debate tonight. But it's too little, too late. He should have come out like this in debate #1 (post-Saddleback). I think that, all things considered, he had the better showing of the two Senators in this last showing.b,121b,121But the WTF moments were owned by McCain, too. At one point, the man's digression from Ayers to ACORN to the end of our democratic election system was positively Loony Tunes, and I think that a lot of people missed this:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121McCain: We need to know the full extent of Sen. Obama's relationship with ACORN, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121Holy F*ck. Tinfoil hat territory.b,121b,121b,121b,121I only wish that Barack Obama would have the balls to admit or even come to the conclusion that he'll obviously have to put aside some of his spending plans until after the economy is more stable than it is currently. But of the two (or four or five) names on the ballot, I believe that Sen. Obama is decidedly a more nuanced and pragmatic choice and will even allow himself to come to this conclusion. b,121b,121I've got to say - the actual Obama vis-??-vis Joe Wurzelbacher video represented the best attempt by a politician as he tells a constituent - straight up - that he's going to raise the man's taxes. I'm sure that Joe came away with respect for Obama, even if he doesn't vote for the man. And that's Presidential.b,121b,121edit: I guess not.b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr.b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121Ouch.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I've got to say - the actual Obama vis-??-vis Joe Wurzelbacher video represented the best attempt by a politician as he tells a constituent - straight up - that he's going to raise the man's taxes. I'm sure that Joe came away with respect for Obama, even if he doesn't vote for the man. And that's Presidential.b,121b,121edit: I guess not.b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr.b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Ouch. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121L, evidently someone looked up Joe the Plumber on the Ohio voter rolls and the man isn't even registered to vote... ooops!
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr.b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Ouch. b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121b,121 b,121b,121On the plus side, maybe that will shore up Obama's popularity with Jews. b,121b,121Challah!b,121b,121Seriously though, what I'll be VERY curious about, here out, is how many more hail mary passes McCain has left in him. Dude's campaign is changing by the hour it seems like and it's been mesmerizing to see how badly his team can fumble every route they've tried to take.b,121b,121Seriously, "it's the economy, stupid". Why is this so hard for McCain to draw a bead on? b,121b,121Cutting capital gains? WHO HAS CAPITAL GAINS IN THIS ECONOMY?
b,121b,121Dude laid it all out on the table, and he's got literally nothing left. In three weeks, I'm going to start a "John McCain, we hardly knew ye" thread. I want positive comments only. See you there.b,121b,121But don't forget to vote!
I just noticed this: in the OG video clip, Mr. Joe Wurzelbacher claims that he makes $280,000/yr. But in the Couric after-show interview transcript, he openly admits that he doesn't. So Obama actually leaves his taxes untouched.b,121b,121I think that Wurzelbacher came out of his house to call out Obama, got met, and then got caught up in the whole whirlwind. BS ensues.b,121b,121And - as an abstract excercise - an astute reader of Politico points out:b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121So, he can't handle a $900 increase in taxes on $280,000 of income, and won't buy that business? Come on, I don't buy that for a second. The numbers: $280,000 - $250,000 (taxes remain the same) = $30,000 Tax rate increase 36% up to 39% in Obama plan: 3% increase $30,000 x 0.03 = $900 Wow, what a pity case. Also, why not incorporate a company w/ that amount of income? This guy is not capable of running a business if he can't figure this stuff out.b,121b,121h,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Apparently, "professorial" is synonymous with "pussy." b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121ODUB HOW YOU GONNA LET MCCAIN DO YOU LIKE THAT b,121b,121h,121b,121b,121Big Stacks too!b,121b,121For real though, outside of a few Philip Roth novels, "professorial" is rarely confused with "grown and sexy" these days. b,121b,121But hey, McCain is just mad b/c apparently "maverick" has become synonymous with "erratic and angry".
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