True Joe Quixx had beats! Still produces but kind of on the DL right now.
The last thing I heard T-Ray produce was a Dilated Peoples track I think. It was cool but a far cry from his Double X Posse, Funkdoobiest, MC Serch, Artifacts funk he used to produce. I think he still collects breaks so I wish he'd come back.
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buckwild has not blown up enough. After whoah you would have thought.
I hear you but all things considered, dude has had a pretty good run. He was like the back-up Pete Rock for years.
He's down with DITC, his resume is ridic' I'm sure he's super-paid. I'd say he's blown
Household name??? I dont think so.
Maybe we should name somebody who iz, to set the bar before cats come with different meanings of "BLOWUP". Maybe Stacks should present the example.
A Hip Hop Producer who my mother knows...........
Hey Batmon,
Good question. I don't expect "hip-hop" producers to blow up like Pharell or anything. I'm thinking of dudes that get (or got) consistent work and are (were) a part of productions for major artist in the field. You know, those dudes you HAD to get a beat from for your album. Although the producers I'll list had popularity at varying times in the industry, some cats off-top I can think of are:
-Premiere. -Pete Rock. -Easy Moe Bee (for a hot minute). -Buckwild. -Dre. -Jay Dee. -Large Professor (somewhat). -Diamond. -Rza. -Muggs (to a lesser extent). -Marley (back then). -The Beatnuts. -Prince Paul (early 90's). -Mike Dean (I think that's dude's name). -Organized Noise.
-I'm all tapped out, and I'm sure I'm missing some dudes.
I'm not really directing replpies to anybody, I'm just trying figure out exactly the sandard of success. Is it Top 40 hits? or critical acclaim? Money? respect by Hip-Hop nerds?
Maybe we should name somebody who iz, to set the bar before cats come with different meanings of "BLOWUP". Maybe Stacks should present the example.
A Hip Hop Producer who my mother knows...........
Hey Batmon,
Good question. I don't expect "hip-hop" producers to blow up like Pharell or anything. I'm thinking of dudes that get (or got) consistent work and are (were) a part of productions for major artist in the field. You know, those dudes you HAD to get a beat from for your album. Although the producers I'll list had popularity at varying times in the industry, some cats off-top I can think of are:
-Premiere. -Pete Rock. -Easy Moe Bee (for a hot minute). -Buckwild. -Dre. -Jay Dee. -Large Professor (somewhat). -Diamond. -Rza. -Muggs (to a lesser extent). -Marley (back then). -The Beatnuts. -Prince Paul (early 90's). -Mike Dean (I think that's dude's name). -Organized Noise.
Minnesota is definitely second string compared to that list but EL-P gets mo press than Minnesota.
Ski did a lot of joints though. I mean, he had what, half of Reasonable Doubt?
Yeah but Ski's name rarely comes up in the same convos as people like Pete, Primo, Buckwild, etc.
He's just not that prolific, despite having made some good material I don't think it should.
Disagree homie. His tracks for "Reasonable Doubt" were a big reason behind its success and his stuff for Camp Lo's album were pretty blaze. He also exec produced All City (but uh, maybe we should just leave that off the resume). And yeah, I forgot the Original Flavor stuff, some of which was pretty cool ("Can I Get Open?", "Here We Go").
I agree - not super prolific but under the criteria of producers that never blew up, I think he's someone who was poised to blow but didn't.
Ski did a lot of joints though. I mean, he had what, half of Reasonable Doubt?
Yeah but Ski's name rarely comes up in the same convos as people like Pete, Primo, Buckwild, etc.
He's just not that prolific, despite having made some good material I don't think it should.
Disagree homie. His tracks for "Reasonable Doubt" were a big reason behind its success and his stuff for Camp Lo's album were pretty blaze. He also exec produced All City (but uh, maybe we should just leave that off the resume). And yeah, I forgot the Original Flavor stuff, some of which was pretty cool ("Can I Get Open?", "Here We Go").
I agree - not super prolific but under the criteria of producers that never blew up, I think he's someone who was poised to blow but didn't.
Also, does Easy Mo Bee qualify?
Mo Bee is to Ready to Die as Ski is to Reasonable Doubt.
Mo Bee is to Ready to Die as Ski is to Reasonable Doubt.
co-sign, "Mo bee drop that shit" always get me in 2pac's temptations. He along with 45 king,showbiz,bomb suad are producers that we're excellent and contributed with artists they felt. Suge/puff saw his potential for good music and used him in the same way. The mo bees and buckwilds are just producer's that stuck to producing and did'nt go all out to be seen or heard a la Jazze Pha. it was that era when rap was blowing up/but still good at all levels.
Ski did a lot of joints though. I mean, he had what, half of Reasonable Doubt?
Yeah but Ski's name rarely comes up in the same convos as people like Pete, Primo, Buckwild, etc.
He's just not that prolific, despite having made some good material I don't think it should.
Disagree homie. His tracks for "Reasonable Doubt" were a big reason behind its success and his stuff for Camp Lo's album were pretty blaze. He also exec produced All City (but uh, maybe we should just leave that off the resume). And yeah, I forgot the Original Flavor stuff, some of which was pretty cool ("Can I Get Open?", "Here We Go").
I agree - not super prolific but under the criteria of producers that never blew up, I think he's someone who was poised to blow but didn't.
Also, does Easy Mo Bee qualify?
Camp Lo's last album had some joints that probably would have made some noise if it was put out properly. "How U Walkin'" with the R****** P**** sample is so damn dope!
Ski is that dude. It's a shame he hasn't gotten the chance to have his big hit.
Ski did a lot of joints though. I mean, he had what, half of Reasonable Doubt?
Yeah but Ski's name rarely comes up in the same convos as people like Pete, Primo, Buckwild, etc.
He's just not that prolific, despite having made some good material I don't think it should.
Disagree homie. His tracks for "Reasonable Doubt" were a big reason behind its success and his stuff for Camp Lo's album were pretty blaze. He also exec produced All City (but uh, maybe we should just leave that off the resume). And yeah, I forgot the Original Flavor stuff, some of which was pretty cool ("Can I Get Open?", "Here We Go").
I agree - not super prolific but under the criteria of producers that never blew up, I think he's someone who was poised to blow but didn't.
Also, does Easy Mo Bee qualify?
Well, here's the thing - Ski's tracks were not the shit that got the most play on that record - "Can't Knock The Hustle" was remixed, and the remix IMO got more play; "Dead Presidents" was big but the Primo tracks were certainly the most talked-about; EZ Mo Bee did "Brooklyn's Finest", and while I think Ski did "Ain't No Nigga"... shit, anyone could have done that... not exactly and individual stamp as a producer.
Rumor is that dude pulled some big head shit with Jay after the record blew, and that led Jay to not work on future records with him.
The Camp Lo record was really bad imo - I liked the beats but could never really get with them as MCs. It never went anywhere and so, while dude definitely is nice, he's never really produced classic music other than with Jay.
You know - this discussion made me go back to the shelf and pull out Reasonable Doubt and as it turns out...we're all wrong:
Can't Knock the Hustle: Knowbody Politics as Usual: Ski Brooklyn's Finest: Clark Kent Can I Live: DJ Irv Ain't No Nigga: Big Jaz Friend or Foe: Primo Coming of Age: Clark Kent Cashmere Thoguhts: Clark Kent Dead Presidents II: SkiFeelin It: Ski D'Evils: Primo 22 Two's: Ski Bring It On: Premier Regrets: Peter Panic
Yeah, I guess Ski's output wasn't all that hot after all. I thought "Politics As Usual" and "Feelin It" were pretty strong but the other hot tracks off this album were really Kent and Primo.
Camp Lo's albums had some joints that probably would have made some noise if it was put out properly. Ski is that dude. It's a shame he hasn't gotten the chance to have his big hit.
Luchini!!!!!!!!! could have been a major hit.
This is it what! luchini falling from the sky lets get rich what!
You know - this discussion made me go back to the shelf and pull out Reasonable Doubt and as it turns out...we're all wrong:
Can't Knock the Hustle: Knowbody
Politics as Usual: Ski
Brooklyn's Finest: Clark Kent
Can I Live: DJ Irv
Ain't No Nigga: Big Jaz
Friend or Foe: Primo
Coming of Age: Clark Kent
Cashmere Thoguhts: Clark Kent
Dead Presidents II: SkiFeelin It: Ski
D'Evils: Primo
22 Two's: Ski
Bring It On: Premier
Regrets: Peter Panic
Yeah, I guess Ski's output wasn't all that hot after all. I thought "Politics As Usual" and "Feelin It" were pretty strong but the other hot tracks off this album were really Kent and Primo.
He did do "Who You Wit" though, off the next album, and one of Jay's defining early tracks.
Also responsible for Sporty Thievz "Cheapskate" and Fat Joe's "John Blaze," w/ Nas, Rae, Jadakiss and Pun... which I had thought until recently was Trackmasters.
Can't Knock the Hustle: KnowbodyClassic[/b] Politics as Usual: SkiClassic[/b] Brooklyn's Finest: Clark KentCLASSIC[/b] Can I Live: DJ Irv aka Irv Gotti, who then used this record for Ashanti CLASSIC[/b] Ain't No Nigga: Big Jaz Classic[/b] Friend or Foe: PrimoClassic[/b] Coming of Age: Clark KentClassic[/b] Cashmere Thoguhts: Clark KentClassic[/b] Dead Presidents II: Ski Classic... but the 12" version is better[/b] Feelin It: Ski Classic... i guess... one of the weaker tracks on the LP IMO[/b] D'Evils: PrimoCLASSIC[/b] 22 Two's: Ski NOT classic, except for Jay's rhymes[/b] Bring It On: Premier Classic[/b] Regrets: Peter Panic Classic[/b]
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True Joe Quixx had beats! Still produces but kind of on the DL right now.
The last thing I heard T-Ray produce was a Dilated Peoples track I think. It was cool but a far cry from his Double X Posse, Funkdoobiest, MC Serch, Artifacts funk he used to produce. I think he still collects breaks so I wish he'd come back.
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Hey Batmon,
Good question. I don't expect "hip-hop" producers to blow up like Pharell or anything. I'm thinking of dudes that get (or got) consistent work and are (were) a part of productions for major artist in the field. You know, those dudes you HAD to get a beat from for your album. Although the producers I'll list had popularity at varying times in the industry, some cats off-top I can think of are:
-Premiere.
-Pete Rock.
-Easy Moe Bee (for a hot minute).
-Buckwild.
-Dre.
-Jay Dee.
-Large Professor (somewhat).
-Diamond.
-Rza.
-Muggs (to a lesser extent).
-Marley (back then).
-The Beatnuts.
-Prince Paul (early 90's).
-Mike Dean (I think that's dude's name).
-Organized Noise.
-I'm all tapped out, and I'm sure I'm missing some dudes.
Peace,
Big Stacks from Kakalak
Oh yeah, Megahertz is nice, what happened to that cat? I like that track he did for De La and Slick Rick too.
Hey Batmon,
Good question. I don't expect "hip-hop" producers to blow up like Pharell or anything. I'm thinking of dudes that get (or got) consistent work and are (were) a part of productions for major artist in the field. You know, those dudes you HAD to get a beat from for your album. Although the producers I'll list had popularity at varying times in the industry, some cats off-top I can think of are:
-Premiere.
-Pete Rock.
-Easy Moe Bee (for a hot minute).
-Buckwild.
-Dre.
-Jay Dee.
-Large Professor (somewhat).
-Diamond.
-Rza.
-Muggs (to a lesser extent).
-Marley (back then).
-The Beatnuts.
-Prince Paul (early 90's).
-Mike Dean (I think that's dude's name).
-Organized Noise.
Minnesota is definitely second string compared to that list but EL-P gets mo press
than Minnesota.
F'real, though. Give the man his props!
DJ Day? "What Planet What Station" is that fire man.
Yeah but Ski's name rarely comes up in the same convos as people like Pete, Primo, Buckwild, etc.
Maybe 'cause Original Flavor's first Lp didnt Blowup.
He's just not that prolific, despite having made some good material I don't think it should.
Disagree homie. His tracks for "Reasonable Doubt" were a big reason behind its success and his stuff for Camp Lo's album were pretty blaze. He also exec produced All City (but uh, maybe we should just leave that off the resume). And yeah, I forgot the Original Flavor stuff, some of which was pretty cool ("Can I Get Open?", "Here We Go").
I agree - not super prolific but under the criteria of producers that never blew up, I think he's someone who was poised to blow but didn't.
Also, does Easy Mo Bee qualify?
Mo Bee is to Ready to Die as Ski is to Reasonable Doubt.
co-sign,
"Mo bee drop that shit" always get me in 2pac's temptations. He along with 45 king,showbiz,bomb suad are producers that we're excellent and contributed with artists they felt. Suge/puff saw his potential for good music and used him in the same way. The mo bees and buckwilds are just producer's that stuck to producing and did'nt go all out to be seen or heard a la Jazze Pha. it was that era when rap was blowing up/but still good at all levels.
Ski is that dude. It's a shame he hasn't gotten the chance to have his big hit.
Well, here's the thing - Ski's tracks were not the shit that got the most play on that record - "Can't Knock The Hustle" was remixed, and the remix IMO got more play; "Dead Presidents" was big but the Primo tracks were certainly the most talked-about; EZ Mo Bee did "Brooklyn's Finest", and while I think Ski did "Ain't No Nigga"... shit, anyone could have done that... not exactly and individual stamp as a producer.
Rumor is that dude pulled some big head shit with Jay after the record blew, and that led Jay to not work on future records with him.
The Camp Lo record was really bad imo - I liked the beats but could never really get with them as MCs. It never went anywhere and so, while dude definitely is nice, he's never really produced classic music other than with Jay.
I thought Clark Kent produced that one.
You're right. My bad.
Same point though, that the biggest tracks on that record were not done by Ski. Hence Jay's line on "Mama Loves Me"
"Primo laced me, Ski did too/Reasonable Doubt, classic, shoulda went triple"
I always wondered because, you know, Primo did what, 3 tracks? Ski did like 7...
Can't Knock the Hustle: Knowbody
Politics as Usual: Ski
Brooklyn's Finest: Clark Kent
Can I Live: DJ Irv
Ain't No Nigga: Big Jaz
Friend or Foe: Primo
Coming of Age: Clark Kent
Cashmere Thoguhts: Clark Kent
Dead Presidents II: SkiFeelin It: Ski
D'Evils: Primo
22 Two's: Ski
Bring It On: Premier
Regrets: Peter Panic
Yeah, I guess Ski's output wasn't all that hot after all. I thought "Politics As Usual" and "Feelin It" were pretty strong but the other hot tracks off this album were really Kent and Primo.
Luchini!!!!!!!!! could have been a major hit.
This is it what! luchini falling from the sky lets get rich what!
He did do "Who You Wit" though, off the next album, and one of Jay's defining early tracks.
Also responsible for Sporty Thievz "Cheapskate" and Fat Joe's "John Blaze," w/ Nas, Rae, Jadakiss and Pun... which I had thought until recently was Trackmasters.