Are we in the Post-rap era?

SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts
edited May 12 in Music Talk
I was just being turned onto Earthgang and JID by a former co-worker out here in Austin. It was interesting going down the YouTube rabbit hole of these artists. There are so many innovations going on with music around the world, but it's still interesting to me to watch how genres evolve. 

Especially when it becomes so alien to you that it almost becomes unrecognizable. 



- Spidey

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  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,243 Posts
    You mentioned two of my favourites. Bringing samples and boom-bap back, all a bit new and weird, but very funky.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,243 Posts

    http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

    screw it, I've completely forgotten how to embed stuff

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts

    http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

    screw it, I've completely forgotten how to embed stuff

    For some reason you have to use the share link now. How did you first hear about these guys?


    - Spidey


  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,243 Posts
    Think i first heard them by checking yootoob suggestions. Maybe a J.I.D track, then see Earthgang featured in a few of his tracks.

    Also these guys (but their beats are more trap as far as I can tell)



    https://youtu.be/NwaE6UpMk5s

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts
    Yeah, I think there's a lot of interesting changes going on in Rap music. I think we definitely hit the Post-rap era when people were talking about Lil Yachty not knowing who Tupac was. 



    I remember that being a bit absurd and not very memorable moment in the news, but now I'm starting to hear the aftermath of some of the new rap music that has been coming out lately. Makes me think back to that story. Popular stuff too. It's so far removed from hip hop/rap. 

    For a comparison of what I'm talking about: 


    ^No idea what this is

    ^This is/was Hip Hop

    - Diego


  • para11axpara11ax No-style-havin' mf'er 353 Posts
    SPlDEY said:

    http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

    screw it, I've completely forgotten how to embed stuff

    For some reason you have to use the share link now. How did you first hear about these guys?


    - Spidey

    Heavy Anderson .Paak vibes


  • ppadilhappadilha 1,930 Posts
    sounds like some of the kids these days are heavy into the DMT or something

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts


    I think Soul Strut is smart enough to fully digest what DMC is saying in this video. I've been on this site for a now, and every year there was a re-occuring joke on Soul Strut about the "Hip Hop is dead" thread. Here's the beginning/end of the conspiracy theory: In 2019 the unseen corporations that actually run the music industry are finding more ways to profit off of Rappers not making rap music. 

    peace and love,

    - spidey
    dj_cityboy

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts
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  • dj_cityboydj_cityboy 1,413 Posts
    SPlDEY said:


    I think Soul Strut is smart enough to fully digest what DMC is saying in this video. I've been on this site for a now, and every year there was a re-occuring joke on Soul Strut about the "Hip Hop is dead" thread. Here's the beginning/end of the conspiracy theory: In 2019 the unseen corporations that actually run the music industry are finding more ways to profit off of Rappers not making rap music. 

    peace and love,

    - spidey

    man that was dope as fuck it was slow enough at work so i could watch it end 2 end... is there more from that interview? id love to hear more of that


  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts
    Yeah, I think that's all on that interview. I think there are other interviews with DMC on that YouTube channel about some other topics. 

    - Diego

  • kicks79kicks79 1,315 Posts
    I normally really like post-genre music. Post-rock, post-hardcore ect it normally delivers some really innovative and groundbreaking music and bands. If this is post hip hop though, it's left me cold. 

  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 2,387 Posts
    I just think of it all as hip-hop and some of it can be traced to certain times/places.  
    klezmer electro-thug beats

  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 2,387 Posts
    I mean, this sounds nothing like My Adidas but it's hip-hop:


    (Just wanted an excuse to post that fire JAKE UNO-assisted beat.  Jake's all over the new Schoolboy Q album too...)

  • Yeah as far as terminology I never found it useful to call stuff "post" anything... I'd call this stuff rap. I like some of it as much as any older stuff I still listen to, but some of it is instant turn-off. I'm much more hot and cold with the recent years of what hip-hop has become.

    Watched DMC's whole rant there, and he's not wrong. But I don't know that you can put the cat back in the bag. Transgressive shit in music feels like it's here to stay, and I think it's of only limited influence on what people actually do. I remember Vince Staples talking about growing up a crip saying when he was like 11 "we played GTA San Andreas and all thought that was what gangbanging was, and we should do it like that, and after a really short time, we realized that shit was stupid". I think likewise you can have media depicting any manner of ridiculous behavior and it's not gonna have much but a limited influence on, basically, 11 year olds for a month before they realize it's fiction. The root cause of people getting shot in Black communities has more to do with wider economic and social factors. Nothing wrong with taking responsibility for your own actions as an individual but there's a lot of external and historical baggage fucking over these communities as a whole that needs to be organized around too.
    DuderonomySPlDEY

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts




    - spidey

  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 2,387 Posts
    Is post-rap decidedly not (hip hop) beat-oriented?  i can see that, if so.

    The new Tyler is a whole lot of weirdo r&b pop - I feel like that might pos-rap? *typo, but fuckit




    But then there's this burner (not post-rap):

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,257 Posts
    ketan said:
    Is post-rap decidedly not (hip hop) beat-oriented?  i can see that, if so.

    Yep, Post-rap uses some familiar Hip Hop elements in a completely new context. It abandons typical hip-hop tropes or conventions, and usually bears little resemblance musically to contemporary Hip-Hop. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLsTskih7_I

    - spidey

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