Are we in the Post-rap era?

SPlDEY

I was just being turned onto Earthgang and JID by a former co-worker out here in Austin. It was interesting going down the YouTube rabbit hole of these artists. There are so many innovations going on with music around the world, but it's still interesting to me to watch how genres evolve. 

Especially when it becomes so alien to you that it almost becomes unrecognizable. 



- Spidey

Duderonomy

You mentioned two of my favourites. Bringing samples and boom-bap back, all a bit new and weird, but very funky.

Duderonomy


http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

screw it, I've completely forgotten how to embed stuff

SPlDEY

Duderonomy said:


http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

screw it, I've completely forgotten how to embed stuff

For some reason you have to use the share link now. How did you first hear about these guys?

- Spidey

Duderonomy

Think i first heard them by checking yootoob suggestions. Maybe a J.I.D track, then see Earthgang featured in a few of his tracks.

Also these guys (but their beats are more trap as far as I can tell)



https://youtu.be/NwaE6UpMk5s

SPlDEY

Yeah, I think there's a lot of interesting changes going on in Rap music. I think we definitely hit the Post-rap era when people were talking about Lil Yachty not knowing who Tupac was. 



I remember that being a bit absurd and not very memorable moment in the news, but now I'm starting to hear the aftermath of some of the new rap music that has been coming out lately. Makes me think back to that story. Popular stuff too. It's so far removed from hip hop/rap. 

For a comparison of what I'm talking about: 


^No idea what this is

^This is/was Hip Hop

- Diego

para11ax

SPlDEY said:

Duderonomy said:


http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITILk-dc4Wo

screw it, I've completely forgotten how to embed stuff

For some reason you have to use the share link now. How did you first hear about these guys?

- Spidey

Heavy Anderson .Paak vibes

ppadilha

sounds like some of the kids these days are heavy into the DMT or something

SPlDEY

I think Soul Strut is smart enough to fully digest what DMC is saying in this video. I've been on this site for a now, and every year there was a re-occuring joke on Soul Strut about the "Hip Hop is dead" thread. Here's the beginning/end of the conspiracy theory: In 2019 the unseen corporations that actually run the music industry are finding more ways to profit off of Rappers not making rap music. 

peace and love,

- spidey

SPlDEY

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dj_cityboy

SPlDEY said:

I think Soul Strut is smart enough to fully digest what DMC is saying in this video. I've been on this site for a now, and every year there was a re-occuring joke on Soul Strut about the "Hip Hop is dead" thread. Here's the beginning/end of the conspiracy theory: In 2019 the unseen corporations that actually run the music industry are finding more ways to profit off of Rappers not making rap music. 

peace and love,

- spidey

man that was dope as fuck it was slow enough at work so i could watch it end 2 end... is there more from that interview? id love to hear more of that

SPlDEY

Yeah, I think that's all on that interview. I think there are other interviews with DMC on that YouTube channel about some other topics. 

- Diego

kicks79

I normally really like post-genre music. Post-rock, post-hardcore ect it normally delivers some really innovative and groundbreaking music and bands. If this is post hip hop though, it's left me cold. 

ketan

I just think of it all as hip-hop and some of it can be traced to certain times/places.  

ketan

I mean, this sounds nothing like My Adidas but it's hip-hop:

(Just wanted an excuse to post that fire JAKE UNO-assisted beat.  Jake's all over the new Schoolboy Q album too...)

klezmer electro-thug beats

Yeah as far as terminology I never found it useful to call stuff "post" anything... I'd call this stuff rap. I like some of it as much as any older stuff I still listen to, but some of it is instant turn-off. I'm much more hot and cold with the recent years of what hip-hop has become.

Watched DMC's whole rant there, and he's not wrong. But I don't know that you can put the cat back in the bag. Transgressive shit in music feels like it's here to stay, and I think it's of only limited influence on what people actually do. I remember Vince Staples talking about growing up a crip saying when he was like 11 "we played GTA San Andreas and all thought that was what gangbanging was, and we should do it like that, and after a really short time, we realized that shit was stupid". I think likewise you can have media depicting any manner of ridiculous behavior and it's not gonna have much but a limited influence on, basically, 11 year olds for a month before they realize it's fiction. The root cause of people getting shot in Black communities has more to do with wider economic and social factors. Nothing wrong with taking responsibility for your own actions as an individual but there's a lot of external and historical baggage fucking over these communities as a whole that needs to be organized around too.

SPlDEY

- spidey

ketan

Is post-rap decidedly not (hip hop) beat-oriented?  i can see that, if so.

The new Tyler is a whole lot of weirdo r&b pop - I feel like that might pos-rap? *typo, but fuckit




But then there's this burner (not post-rap):

SPlDEY

ketan said:

Is post-rap decidedly not (hip hop) beat-oriented?  i can see that, if so.

Yep, Post-rap uses some familiar Hip Hop elements in a completely new context. It abandons typical hip-hop tropes or conventions, and usually bears little resemblance musically to contemporary Hip-Hop. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLsTskih7_I

- spidey