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  • the three guys from the children's group Hanson just dropped their own microbrew..... it's called "MMMHops"....

    is the microbrew culture in America starting to sound like a million monkeys at a million typewriters yet?

  • this is the current draft list at the bar 5 minutes from my house. keep in mind, this doesn't include whatever they decided to bring in on a week to week basis in 5gal kegs.

    http://www.hiprestaurants.com/menus/west50/West50-BeerMenu.pdf



    just so you know.

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,074 Posts
    vintageinfants said:
    this is the current draft list at the bar 5 minutes from my house. keep in mind, this doesn't include whatever they decided to bring in on a week to week basis in 5gal kegs.

    http://www.hiprestaurants.com/menus/west50/West50-BeerMenu.pdf



    just so you know.

    Miller Genuine Draft = ULTRA PREMIUM

  • ppadilha said:
    vintageinfants said:
    this is the current draft list at the bar 5 minutes from my house. keep in mind, this doesn't include whatever they decided to bring in on a week to week basis in 5gal kegs.

    http://www.hiprestaurants.com/menus/west50/West50-BeerMenu.pdf



    just so you know.

    Miller Genuine Draft = ULTRA PREMIUM

    i know, right?

    hey.. i didn't say i ranked em.....

  • FrankFrank 2,403 Posts
    ppadilha said:
    vintageinfants said:
    this is the current draft list at the bar 5 minutes from my house. keep in mind, this doesn't include whatever they decided to bring in on a week to week basis in 5gal kegs.

    http://www.hiprestaurants.com/menus/west50/West50-BeerMenu.pdf



    just so you know.

    Miller Genuine Draft = ULTRA PREMIUM

    No serious beer drinker would ever set foot in such a place. The lower the number of beers on draft and the more turnaround a place has, the better the beer will taste. While they do offer some great beers, why also sell garbage like Heineken, Becks and Kronenburg (just to mention the obvious mass produced Euro shit that is about as bad as European beers can get)? Beer reduces in quality with every day the keg sits around half empty. Also, I would not trust any of those novelty "X-AMOUNT OF BEERS ON DRAFT" places with keeping their pipes clean. Beer being a highly nutritious liquid it acts like a petri dish for all sorts of micro-organisms.

  • not to sound like im defending the place like some auperstan, but as someone who used to deliver kegs to bars in my younger days, it is far and away the cleanest and well put together keg room ive ever been in.

    and yeah, the appearance of mass-produced swill is disheartening, but i understand it from a business perspective.


    canada has been poorly represented in this thraed so i thought id wave a little flag for us. the unibeoue beers from quebexico are pretty next level.

  • JimsterJimster Twilight Zone/ Al Capone/ Rolling Stone/ Eva Perón 6,433 Posts
    Re: Canadian yags, I will ride for Molson, ey?

    The other Euromang offerings are fair enough. I guess these are readily available without ebay-grael-like paths to ownership. Guinness and Newcastle Brown are always welcome faces to the weary euro traveller. Stella is my weapon of choice at bars here. Becks is acceptable too.

    Kronenburg I find to be a sin against chemistry. Their champers may be decent, but France's beer plate fell off it's stick.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,921 Posts
    vintageinfants said:
    this is the current draft list at the bar 5 minutes from my house. keep in mind, this doesn't include whatever they decided to bring in on a week to week basis in 5gal kegs.

    http://www.hiprestaurants.com/menus/west50/West50-BeerMenu.pdf



    just so you know.

    That's pretty impressive.

    If you've never tried it, I recommend the Innis & Gunn.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,921 Posts
    J i m s t e r said:
    Re: Canadian yags, I will ride for Molson, ey?

    The other Euromang offerings are fair enough. I guess these are readily available without ebay-grael-like paths to ownership. Guinness and Newcastle Brown are always welcome faces to the weary euro traveller. Stella is my weapon of choice at bars here. Becks is acceptable too.

    Kronenburg I find to be a sin against chemistry. Their champers may be decent, but France's beer plate fell off it's stick.

    Re: Canadian yags, I will ride for Moosehead, ey?

    Fixed.

    Not wishing to sound like a beer snob or anything, but even the mass-produced varieties taste significantly better when supped in their country of origin. I mean, I wouldn't go out of my way to drink Becks or Carlsberg over here, not with the level of choice on offer in most hostelries, but at least the stuff actually resembles beer, which it often doesn't back in Blighty. The words, "brewed in the UK under license" are never a good sign.

  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    on innis and gunn recently available here and always sells out fast

    for me germany/belgium are GOAT, i need a proper education in british brews
    but quebec is on some next level craft shit and in a golden age of local delicacies reaching a larger market and startups doing things proper.
    US beer is cool and got the IPA game on-lock but there is no denying euroman's dominance in the field

  • Innis and Gunn is one of my local breweries. Didn't realise they'd hit the international market. There's a few bars here that serve it on draught, very nice stuff if a little sweet depending on your taste.

  • GropeGrope 2,970 Posts
    DocMcCoy said:


    Shout-out for this as well - a lovely, clean, crisp drop of gargle.


    now that's funny! my mom used to work at the brauhaus tegernsee. she told me that after i raved about the beer. i stole a glass at the bar that was serving tegernseer. i love the beer.


    i also like:

  • GropeGrope 2,970 Posts
    i'm not a big fan of the big german brewerys anymore. i got bored with the taste. i don't think german beer is very classy. the smaller breweries often have those oddly sweet tasting beers (caramel) or super special tasting beers that i don't really like.
    i read an article about US brewers and how their unique approach. and they won some international awards. i think the number one brewer is in NYC. i forgot his name...

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,074 Posts
    DocMcCoy said:
    Not wishing to sound like a beer snob or anything, but even the mass-produced varieties taste significantly better when supped in their country of origin.

    if you're ever in Brazil I will dare you to drink a Brahma or Skol and repeat that sentence. The only time that stuff doesn't taste like some awful chemical swill is when you're sitting on the beach under the hot sun and the beer is so cold you can't even taste it.

    I will try to rep the local braus of Porto Alegre from now on, one of the few things that saves this city. There is a veritable beer revolution happening down here, with literally 10s of microbreweries popping up throughout the nation. Most are aping either US-style hoppy brews or Euro-style (well, German and Belgian) brews. There's some good stuff being made, and people are starting to play with local ingredients to good (and sometimes bad) effect. We'll take down the AMBEV behemoth on its home turf.

  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    south american beer is pretty bland in general and will not get you drunk


    this peruvian beer is a better option

    when travelling bring your local brews and your friends or travel hosts will go nuts and thank you for it

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,074 Posts
    pcmr said:
    south american beer is pretty bland in general and will not get you drunk

    when travelling bring your local brews and your friends or travel hosts will go nuts and thank you for it

    you, sir, would be a most welcome guest.

    of the mainstream beers in Brazil I'll ride for Xingu, nowadays you can find it at most respectable establishments:



    the last ditch option when you're at a buteco is Serramalte, which at least has some fake hops flavor and will get you slightly drunk:



    the real way to do it at a buteco though is to order some cacha??a (most places now have something like Seleta or better) and sip it, and just drink the beer to wash it down.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,921 Posts
    ppadilha said:
    DocMcCoy said:
    Not wishing to sound like a beer snob or anything, but even the mass-produced varieties taste significantly better when supped in their country of origin.

    if you're ever in Brazil I will dare you to drink a Brahma or Skol and repeat that sentence. The only time that stuff doesn't taste like some awful chemical swill is when you're sitting on the beach under the hot sun and the beer is so cold you can't even taste it.

    I will try to rep the local braus of Porto Alegre from now on, one of the few things that saves this city. There is a veritable beer revolution happening down here, with literally 10s of microbreweries popping up throughout the nation. Most are aping either US-style hoppy brews or Euro-style (well, German and Belgian) brews. There's some good stuff being made, and people are starting to play with local ingredients to good (and sometimes bad) effect. We'll take down the AMBEV behemoth on its home turf.

    A vist to Brazil is extremely high on my bucket list, so I hope to be able to challenge (or otherwise) your assertion some day. There's a little cafe in my kiez that's owned by a Brazilian dude, and he sells Brahma and Skol. I haven't been there for a little while, but I saw the owner the other day and he gently gave me some shit about how come I don't come around any more, so I might drop in for a beer this weekend. If so, I'll report back on the quality, but to be perfectly honest I don't remember them tasting too bad. Bear in mind I come from a country where the average beer-drinkers palate is so shot to fuck that brewers can get away with shit like putting glucose syrup in draught Staropramen.

    Cusque??a is pretty decent, or at least it was the last time I had a bottle. On the Spanish tip, Estrella and Cruzcampo are good too, and I was beginning to see an increasing number of London boozers serving the former on draught before I fled the UK.

  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    the cacha??a beer combo is definetly the way to go
    but the giid thing about brazilian beer is that in any bar you get tall bottles (bem gelada) placed in a mini cooler and the servers job is to immediately replace once its empty
    mix that with piquanha meat platters and wow!!

    don you MUST go to brazil

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,074 Posts


    behold, Brazilian microbrews!

    from right to left (more or less the order in which I drank them):

    Saint Bier Belgian Blond Ale (Santa Catarina) - nice blond ale
    Colorado Vixnu Imperial IPA (Ribeir??o Preto, S??o Paulo) - not as hoppy as other Imperial IPAs I've had but has a good, full body to it
    Mistura Classica Bill's American Pale Ale (Rio de Janeiro) - hoppy pale ale
    3 Lobos Imperial Stout, brewed in umburana barrels (Minas Gerais) - umburana is one of the kinds of wood used for aging cacha??a that gives it a slightly spicy flavor.
    Duderonomy

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts
    Quebec has a banging craft beer scene. My local supermarket stocks over a hundred types!

    Jimster

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts
      unable to edit?
    Jimster

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts
    Ok, my phone randomly attaching an image of Trump from a WhatsApp conversation was funny, my wife asking me why I put her pic on the internet not so funny  


    Me and a disparate group of expat friends have a WhatsApp conversation going that is extensively fuelled by beer porn.
    And Trump memes.

  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 2,724 Posts
    beers in qc are incredible.  

    at this point, it's all about local brews - there are so many to choose from. 

    i do look out for this one from sweden - Omnipollo Zodiak IPA

    Duderonomy

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts

    The beer I turn to for regular drinking is rousse/Irish red. It’s a style of ale I don’t remember ever drinking in the UK, but it seems very popular here.
    I also love Imperial stouts (stuff up in the 8-12% range) for the rich flavours, Belgian double & triple brews, and in the summer I’ll do IPAs if they’re fruity... I’m actually not a big fan of dry, hoppy beers.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts
    I think this thread was started after Guzzo (back in the mid ‘00s?) claimed that America made the best beer in the world. At that time the export of microbrews was non-existent, so his claim drew surprise and yes, ridicule. Now that craft beer is a world wide ting I want to apologise to Guzzo: you were probably right to draw attention to how good it was. “Best” is always going to provoke strong reactions though (maybe intended?), and now there’s so much good beer it’s impossible to keep up.

    No, now I remember it was a carry-on from the outrage sparked by Australian hip-hop.

  • foefoe turo de la peira 180 Posts
    i got so motivated by this thread i managed to log in again.

    why do people think estrella is good, it's like bad vodka, doesn't taste much but what it does is shit. galicia is great for what it is. even mahou is better than that piss water. the spaniards are not really good at beer tho. 


    Duderonomy

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts
    But there is a Brew Dog in BCN, and you can find Elvis Juice in lots of places.

    Really I drank Rioja everyday there.

  • JimsterJimster Twilight Zone/ Al Capone/ Rolling Stone/ Eva Perón 6,433 Posts
    Ok, my phone randomly attaching an image of Trump from a WhatsApp conversation was funny, my wife asking me why I put her pic on the internet not so funny  


    Me and a disparate group of expat friends have a WhatsApp conversation going that is extensively fuelled by beer porn.
    And Trump memes.
    But there is a Brew Dog in BCN, and you can find Elvis Juice in lots of places.

    Really I drank Rioja everyday there.

    Jealous of the QB selection.  Our local has stopped doing Innis & Gunn.  Gutted.  The most popular stuff is now the worst stuff.  Like life, right?

    Tried the Elvis Juice at the weekend.

    It's Alright.  (b-boom-tish!)  Srs doe, has that fruity kick dialled in just right.

    And I'm probably still hungover from London.  Christ, that was messy.  Not touching Tequila ever again.

    Duderonomy

  • JimsterJimster Twilight Zone/ Al Capone/ Rolling Stone/ Eva Perón 6,433 Posts
    foe said:
    r. the spaniards are not really good at beer tho. 


    Still better than the Mexicans, right?  And tha's what people have by the boxload here.  I feel rude refusing it...

    Last time in Spain we did find some good stuff in the supermarkets, the Damm stuff with better alcohol %, but eating out, Cruzcampo always tastes good to me.


  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,474 Posts
    Jimster said:
    foe said:
    r. the spaniards are not really good at beer tho. 


    Still better than the Mexicans, right?  And tha's what people have by the boxload here.  I feel rude refusing it...

    Last time in Spain we did find some good stuff in the supermarkets, the Damm stuff with better alcohol %

    Voll Damn is the stronger, maltier Estrella. I read in the UK pre-lockdown Corona sales went through the roof as people got drunk... sarcastically. Gave me a chuckle.


    BCN had a great craft beer scene while I was there, but the price comparison between local wines and imported beers wasn’t good, so it was more of a treat than the norm. In Quebec I want to cry when I see the price of Spanish wines. The restaurants here are criminal with their mark-ups.

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