Rihanna working with Chris Brown
bassie
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We went through it on the Board when it all first blew up, so what are SStrut???s thoughts on this?
Putting aside the music, but taking into consideration the mainstream stardom aspect and that millions of young men and women are watching how these two move???
Is she sending a terrible message by ???going back??? to her abuser?
Is she sending a positive message about overcoming and forgiveness?
Putting aside the music, but taking into consideration the mainstream stardom aspect and that millions of young men and women are watching how these two move???
Is she sending a terrible message by ???going back??? to her abuser?
Is she sending a positive message about overcoming and forgiveness?
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From a music perspective, it could be good. America will forgive even the most grievous errors in judgment as long as the artist subsequently releases some bangers (see R. Kelly). I will reserve further judgment until I hear the results.
Peace,
JRoot
From a PR perspective, it's pure gold.
Ultimately, though, shit will probably not be that different. I predict lots of, "Hey, if she's not bothered by it, why should I be?", followed by chart success, diminishing at a rate no better or worse than typical. Anybody who gets too agitated by it will accused of "shaming," discourse will eventually smooth the whole thing out into this year's "No, see, you've got it all wrong: stripping empowers women," and I will have to choke back a little more bile than usual whenever I hear her joyless-as-always voice on the radio. Other than that, meh.
I was talking with my friend Jackie about this, and while she believes this will be a strong warm-weather black-folks-barbecue topic, she doesn't see it being a perennial, a la Kells or Michael. She thinks the parties involved are too poppy and too young to retain traction among "my people."
he's avoided financial/PR consequences and now basically is off the hook completely
working with many HS students i heard a lot of ''she deserved it, she was drunk and looking for it''
i guess these impressionable young female brown fans are vindicated
i hatt them both
yup...
remember when he freaked out and trashed the Today Show last year... dude still has anger issues...
This is a working relationship, right? I can only take it at its face-value right now and say it is a business decision.
It would be a different ballgame in a whole other field were they to get back together.
I think there has to be room for people to f up and fix it. Having anger issues is definitely not something one can learn to control overnight. And I don???t know how unrepentant he has or hasn???t been ??? does he owe the world an apology and updates on his progress? Yea, I get they are public figures, but this is something a person needs to work on in private.
I in no way think he should get a pass, but I am also glad he hasn???t been castrated like Tiger Woods. (Had Rihanna been white - this would be such a different conversation)
It makes me uneasy to hear women say she is ???betraying??? abused women everywhere.
It also makes me uneasy to hear young women fawn over him and demonize her.
But these two aren???t solely responsible for the messed up messages we send out regarding male-female relationships???they???re probably a product of it to some extent.
but there are different ways to make up and forgive
riri the rolemodel and the person could have made the same logical decision to not embrace him again
it seems that financial reasoning trumped it
Oh wait.
Even if wounds heal and she's moved on, she probably should have taken a stance and just cut ties. That said, who knows what's going on in her head. I read some interview in rolling stone and she talks about watching that movie Due Date over and over, like she watches it daily. That's not normal.
I guess it's that philosophy that once you forgive, you are free of it. Sounds waaaaaay easier said than done.
I'm still pissed at someone taking credit for work I did last year!
edit - If forgiveness is for one's own self-preservation, then I would also wonder how you can trust that person again?
In Barbados, could be foreplay...
The former. Rihanna's an idiot. Apart from the fact they've supposedly stayed involved on the DL anyway, it just validates all that "I'd let Chris Brown smack the shit outta me" crap that was all over Twitter when he was on the Grammys. And don't get me started on that shitstack Grammys spokesperson who claimed the show had been a victim of the whole furore because they weren't able to put him on the show without catching flak until this year. Seriously. That was an official Grammy statement. I'm aware that domestic violence can be a complex issue, and that simply turning your back on your abuser and walking away isn't always easy. But it's a lot easier for someone in Rihanna's position than it is for most women who are being brutalised by their partners. I really did think she was brighter than this. The entire affair has been a magnet for the worst sort of stupidity and dim-bulb commentary. Chris Brown's a fucking toerag, and if there was any justice in the world he'd live in fear of a good shoeing every time he stepped out of his house. Fuck him.
Assuming Rihanna is of a certain mindset and with a specific lifeplan.
I don't even disagree with anything you have said, but I am trying to keep some perspective. My gut reaction is to have a gut reaction.
She is 24 years old. It is not an age of absolutes and life answers.
That said, she knows wtf she's doing, and I think she knows to some extent, it's a fucking cop-out.
On the one hand, she wants us to know that she's a survivor, a strong woman of color. On the other hand is this perplexing return to what many thought were bygones. Maybe she's trying to reinforce this bad girl image she's been trying so hard to keep up. I can accept dancing on the edge via substance abuse or gambling or something, but domestic abuse? It's so not glamourous. With every single of hers getting constant airplay on the radio, she's not in a position to lose much popularity any time soon. But Brown has way more to gain by trying to paint himself as the nice guy again.
But hey, it's got us talking about two singers very few on this board even enjoy listening to.
Sayin'.
As a whole, one of the worst looks ever.
Imagine the shoes.
On a regular non-assault-history day, this would just be a horrible decision gone terribly wrong.
But I am kinda floored at how negligent his team/crew/handlers/mans dem are to let this pass.
It's like someone threw him in a dryer filled with spirit gum and pubes.