b,121Are you guys really putting that much stock in the number of bumper stickers you see on a particular stretch of road somewhere or how many racist uncles you know that won't vote for Obama? C'mon, it's a big country out there. I'm no fan of polls, but at least there is *some* science to it.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Besides, I HATE when people (mainly the media) act like Smalltown USA is the only USA there is. Just 'cause you saw a mess of McCain stickers in Tree Stump County or Slab Fork Boulevard, that doesn't speak for the rest of us.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Really, I say y'all all the time.b,121b,121That said, I think it's gonna be a squeaker. At least, Obama's strategists clearly are very good at working all 50 states to their strengths and weaknesses. After all, they were able to overcome the Clinton machine and a large initial deficit of super delegates. Of course, that relied heavily on working the caucus states. No caucuses in the Presidential race.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Or its cousin, "Smalltown USA is the only USA that has any value, you city-dwelling commie nazi atheist islamofascist!"b,121b,121Go fi1[/i]uck a duck, dickheads.
b,121Are you guys really putting that much stock in the number of bumper stickers you see on a particular stretch of road somewhere or how many racist uncles you know that won't vote for Obama? C'mon, it's a big country out there. I'm no fan of polls, but at least there is *some* science to it.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121Truth. Everyone flips when they see that red state/blue state map, but forget that most of the bodies (human that is, not cows or sheep) are in those blue states.
b,121I went on a road trip across PA this past weekend and saw house after house, a sea of McCain banners in people's yards. Not One Obama banner. Anywhere. In fact, the only ones I've seen have been up at Penn State (home to many liberal professors). I'm convinced much of America is what I saw driving. Just making an observation. Some of you might be delusional. It didn't help that Obama got sonned at the debate either.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121With all due respect, I know this is your messageboard but please STFU. b,121b,121b,121edit:b,121b,121and some of the poats after Raj's are straight pathetic.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Glad you've come around, I'm pretty sure you started a "McCain is going to win, get used to it" post a couple months back.b,121b,121I think it's gonna be very close, but Barack will win unless something major happens to change that (Bush late October surprise related).
b,121I went on a road trip across PA this past weekend and saw house after house, a sea of McCain banners in people's yards. Not One Obama banner. Anywhere. In fact, the only ones I've seen have been up at Penn State (home to many liberal professors). I'm convinced much of America is what I saw driving. Just making an observation. Some of you might be delusional. It didn't help that Obama got sonned at the debate either.
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b,121With all due respect, I know this is your messageboard but please STFU.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Are you going to slice your wrists if Obama loses.... sounds like it.
b,121I find it very hard to believe that you actually speak like this.
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b,121Sayin'. Coupled with the fact that he likes to deliver it as he's looking down his nose at Soulstrut
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Dudes, all these posts where people talk shit about middle America and look down on southern/country accents is why Democrats lose. Well, at least part of it anyway. That is what feeds the "liberal elite" argument. If liberals weren't so condescending so much of the time then more people would listen to them.
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but when you live here like I do, you have no reason to walk around predicting a McCain win unless you are supporting him./b1 I'm a little too close to it to be objective - OBAMA ALL THE WAY. A change is not gonna come when you're moping around on message boards predicting enemy victory. Just cast your goddamned vote and don't start analyzing shit till the votes roll in. America is too uptight today for this kind of pessimism messing up your program.b,121b,121No offense, but just because somebody saw too many McCain signs in one place, that's no reason to start rapping on Obama as if he were Nader. Buck up and quit crying. b,121b,121h,121
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b,121I find it very hard to believe that you actually speak like this.
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b,121Dudes, all these posts where people talk shit about middle America and look down on southern/country accents is why Democrats lose. Well, at least part of it anyway. That is what feeds the "liberal elite" argument. If liberals weren't so condescending so much of the time then more people would listen to them.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Holmes:b,121b,121What are y'all tawn' 'bout? I'm just yammerin' 'bout Rashied y'all.
b,121Since Bush got re-elected I've given up all hope for the common sense of our country. In addition one must question the intellegence of most American voters.
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b,121I find it very hard to believe that you actually speak like this.
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b,121Dudes, all these posts where people talk shit about middle America and look down on southern/country accents is why Democrats lose. Well, at least part of it anyway. That is what feeds the "liberal elite" argument. If liberals weren't so condescending so much of the time then more people would listen to them.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Haha, wasn't talking just about your post, I hear this kind of talk everywhere and in lots of threads here. I agree that Harvey's posting style is probably even less productive towards winning arguments than what I mentioned, but I wish that more people would wake up to the fact that their condescending rhetoric is obscuring their message.
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b,121I find it very hard to believe that you actually speak like this.
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b,121Dudes, all these posts where people talk shit about middle America and look down on southern/country accents is why Democrats lose. Well, at least part of it anyway. That is what feeds the "liberal elite" argument. If liberals weren't so condescending so much of the time then more people would listen to them.
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b,121Haha, wasn't talking just about your post, I hear this kind of talk everywhere and in lots of threads here. I agree that Harvey's posting style is probably even less productive towards winning arguments than what I mentioned, but I wish that more people would wake up to the fact that their condescending rhetoric is obscuring their message.
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b,121A lot of people say "y'all," including Jim Lehrer. There is no clear second person plural in English; saying "y'all" or "you all" is much clearer than saying "you" (plural implied but not stated).
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b,121To those of you who think it sounds unintelligent, I'd be interested to know how often you pepper your conversations with the word "like."
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font class="post"1b,121b,121I actually say y'all too for the very reason you stated, and I'm a lifelong Bostonian.
b,121Dudes, all these posts where people talk shit about middle America and look down on southern/country accents is why Democrats lose. Well, at least part of it anyway. That is what feeds the "liberal elite" argument. If liberals weren't so condescending so much of the time then more people would listen to them.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121The door swings both ways! I'm sure McCain supporters probably sneer at Obama's folks, too!b,121b,121For the record...when I made that comment about people thinking Smalltown is the only "town" there is, I didn't like the implication that only one region of the country has the power. Smalltown ain't got it anymore than Bigtown does.
b,121Dudes, all these posts where people talk shit about middle America and look down on southern/country accents is why Democrats lose. Well, at least part of it anyway. That is what feeds the "liberal elite" argument. If liberals weren't so condescending so much of the time then more people would listen to them.
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b,121The door swings both ways! I'm sure McCain supporters probably sneer at Obama's folks, too!
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b,121I actually say y'all too for the very reason you stated, and I'm a lifelong Bostonian.
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