Hillary Clinton has legs.
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It's really starting to look like Hillary Clinton wins the Dem nomination on the strength of superdelegates and the forthcoming momentum she'll pick up over the course of the remaining FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS until the Democratic National Convention. She'll then get her ass handed to her by John McCain in the general.Obama suddenly looks gassed. He's going to have to go on the offensive (read: negative) to win this, and Obama doesn't do dirt. He just doesn't.Momentum + Ohio + Texas + RI + Rezko + Rezko trial + momentum + CaNAdaFTA + GOP backwards Hillary votes + momentum = lots and lots and lots of blood in the water.Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States: 
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skittish little bitches
The only way Clinton wins the white house is with Obama on her ticket.... and I'm not sure I see that either.
Fuck both of you. I'm not fair-weather about the man I voted for in the Illinois State primary, general, and National primary elections. I'm not going to stop pulling for the man.
But MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN. I'm not too blind to see.
I don't think the scales go that high.
Wrong. The math has him winning. You think she's winning any other states aside from -- maybe -- Pennsylvania?
Why are you suddenly doing an about face on what you know will not happen: a brokered convention?
But it is what it is. The Democratic Party will align with the Blue Collar vote, they will place emphasis on "blue" states over places like Georgia and Idaho, the superdelegates will flip and flip again, the Florida and Michigan delegates will be seated (even they have second primaries, out of which Hillary will win at least Florida), Pennsylvania will support her BIG as will Puerto Rico. Ohio wasn't even close.
Don't insult me because you're feeling sad at this moment[/b].
She is an also-ran with a fluke win.
Oh, I think they DO.
Back to being serious.
She'll win Puerto Rico (60 delegates or so), she'll get Florida, and the party will consider her states "bigger" than his.
They'll angle for some compromise to be made, such as a VP nod.
You want it to be one way, but it's the other way.
Go buy a quart of chocolate ice cream and get busy.
I'm wondering if the Republicans that voted for Hillary in Texas, because they believe she is the more beatable opponent, could have consisted of 1%-2% of the vote??
Hey look man I am not your enemy. I have argued, spoken, poasted... and if my primary allowed independents, would have voted... for Obama.
It is what it is though. You can curse me now, but see if it doesn't happen. I hope I'm wrong.
I wouldn't call three states (two huge) in a row "a fluke win."
Again: There is nearly half a year 'til the DNC. The Rezko trial has just started and, well, re-peruse my progression in the first post. McCain was bleeding in an alley three months ago, and look where he is now.
Additionally: Hillary is starting to get some major support from Chicago press heads like Lynn Sweet and Carol Marin. The tide is turning against my dude.
She did whup ass - in Ohio and Rhode Island.
She will eke out a victory in Texas or write the entire state off - the campaign is already circulating claims of voter intimidation and foul play on the part of the Obama campaign.
She will whup ass in Pennsylvania, and Puerto Rico.
Her argument for the throne resonates with Establishment Democrats, and the group they're most scared of toying with is the blue collar "salt of the earth" voter.
I might be a cynical motherfucker, but I can see this schitt coming a mile away.
SCREWED.
Basically it's been a great day for Clinton after a very good three weeks for Obama. Still, the media and those of us just watching and hoping have this annoying tendency to call the contest based on what's happening *right now*.
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Put that dough where ya mouth is . . .
Hey look it's a long way to the convention... I just see the potential for this to get real ugly and I think the Party will reign it in... and I just don't see them giving it to Obama unless he pulls out a big upset somewhere.
Hope I'm wrong.
Rhode Island and Puerto Rico are not significant primaries, delegate wise. I say it again, her campaign justified her continued involvement in this race based around the expectation she would win Texas AND Ohio handily, not one or the other. As for future primaries, granted she can be expected to win Penn. What are your guys hunches regarding Mississippi, North Carolina, West Virginia, Oregon, Indiana, etc.
I just checked and PR has 28 pledged delegates and 5 superdelegates, so not as much as I thought.
I think that the Party is going to bury him to avoid a brokered convention.
I understand your cynicism, no doubt. And yes, if you had to pick an establishment candidate, it would be her, and that raises the legitimate fear that a near-tie would produce a convention disposed to nominate her. However, the cigar-chompers in the back room are very cognizant of the fact that an Obama-McCain matchup looks much more winnable. And after 8 years of Bush, the establishment is seriously hankering for a winner. I'm just not so sure that in the scenario of a muddled delegate count they would swing towards Hil.
Another fact they're aware of - Obama's proved to be a hell of a fundraiser and if he chooses to go the non-matching-funds route, that is a real-world advantage for him in the general.
Let's get some "Yes We Can" up in here!!!!
I gave Hillary the results she has tonight plus a split in Texas. Then I went with her winning 60-40 down the line.
= she has +3 pledged delegates at the end.
== not gonna happen.
"YES WE CAN!"
Good Lord, the next significant primary (Penn) is 7 weeks away! This fight is going to have them exhausted and ragged. Not to mention there'll be lots of time for them to produce gaffes and mistakes for McCain to use. Ugh.