What is the Gen X Sgt Pepper?

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  • asstroasstro 1,754 Posts
    JRoot - I still say OK Computer doesn't come close to qualifying. A true Sgt Pepper style record really has to be a massive commercial hit in my book. "OK Computer" sold about 7 million (which is of course not small potatoes), but the 3 I named are all each over 20 million sold worldwide, and all had big singles. Maybe Radiohead aren't a singles band, but you need hit singles to "capture the zeitgiest"...


  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts

  • asstroasstro 1,754 Posts
    And "Licenced To Ill" is more like the "Meet The Beatles" of Gen X, it's the one that made black music safe for white kids to like.


  • yes! tho i think their first ep is what id put up on a pedestal. i remember the first time i heard 8ball at my cousins and they said the f word like 100 times in 3 minutes and i ran all scared to my sister to tell her "theyre saying cuss words!!!" i dont know why but i always always loved panic zone.

  • made black music safe for white kids to like.

    i would think run dmc is responsible for that.

  • asstroasstro 1,754 Posts
    made black music safe for white kids to like.

    i would think run dmc is responsible for that.

    Sort of, but not really. I mean, Run-DMC might have been a the gateway into hip-hop for a lot of people, but white kids weren't the majority of people at shows until after the Beasties blew up.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    made black music safe for white kids to like.

    i would think run dmc is responsible for that.

    Hells no - return to THRILLER for the ultimate in "Black music for white people shook by Black people."

    Not that it isn't a great album. But it's hard to get more un-threatening than MJ, even when he was Black.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Probably some U2 dreck.

    That would be our Exile on Main Street.



    And I was beginning to enjoy the more mellow, laid back Fatback 2008.

    I made it two whole weeks.

  • made black music safe for white kids to like.

    i would think run dmc is responsible for that.

    Sort of, but not really. I mean, Run-DMC might have been a the gateway into hip-hop for a lot of people, but white kids weren't the majority of people at shows until after the Beasties blew up.

    are we talking about shows now? i mean really, alls i gotta say is "elementary school talent show" and im sure everyone can recall the dance routine with like 5 white kids getten epileptic to some its tricky. sure they may not have been at the arena, but every kid in my podunk redneck town knew u be illin. from what i remember, the beastie boys were definately on some tiger beat pin up shit at my school but kids werent really bumping it.

  • made black music safe for white kids to like.

    i would think run dmc is responsible for that.

    Hells no - return to THRILLER for the ultimate in "Black music for white people shook by Black people."

    Not that it isn't a great album. But it's hard to get more un-threatening than MJ, even when he was Black.

    youre partially right. though im sure there are folks that preceeded him in this area. however, as far as rap goes, run dmc is it.

  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    If anything I liked was compared to some Beatles garbage I would stop listening to it.



  • What?! This isn't even on the radar of Gen Xers.

    I don't know any Gen Xers who have NWA, Dr. Dre, or Biggie in their collections (how in the world do those last two count as Gen X artists?). Only on SoulStrut would those albums be considered the greatest, most groundbreaking of their generation.

    Thriller has to qualify. Fuck that talk about him being dangerous or black, as if people listen to music because it's dangerous.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts

    What the hell is that? I'm definitely
    I'd say if everyone can't recognize it it's a no go.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Dr. Dre, or Biggie in their collections (how in the world do those last two count as Gen X artists?).

    Christopher George Latore Wallace (May 21, 1972 ??? March 9, 1997)

    Andr?? Romell Young (born February 18, 1965)

    Gen X = DOB 1965-1980


  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    John, Paul, George, Ringo...... Josh?

  • BreakSelfBreakSelf 2,925 Posts
    made black music safe for white kids to like.

    i would think run dmc is responsible for that.

    Hells no - return to THRILLER for the ultimate in "Black music for white people shook by Black people."

    Not that it isn't a great album. But it's hard to get more un-threatening than MJ, even when he was Black.

    Motown

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    The Gen X Pet Sounds?


  • Dr. Dre, or Biggie in their collections (how in the world do those last two count as Gen X artists?).

    Christopher George Latore Wallace (May 21, 1972 ??? March 9, 1997)

    Andr?? Romell Young (born February 18, 1965)

    Gen X = DOB 1965-1980


    Yeah, I know that they belong to Gen X, yet I don't know anyone their age that listens to their music. If I asked my sisters and brothers-in-law if those guys were the the Beatles of their generation, well, I don't think they'd let me forget that question.

    Really, now, are The Chronic and Ready to Die going to be the albums you and your children are going to bond over? I can see it now... "Son, remember the days when we would play catch, work on the car, and listen to 'Bitches Ain't Shit' and 'Deeez Nuuuts.' I feel like you're growing up too fast!"

  • deLYSdeLYS 388 Posts
    from wikipedia...

    Famous and successful Gen X People (1961-1981)

    Arts/Entertainment[/b]
    Jennifer Aniston
    Naomi Campbell
    Leonardo Dicaprio
    Tina Fey
    Jamie Foxx
    Teri Hatcher
    Ethan Hawke
    Angelina Jolie
    Kate Moss
    River Phoenix
    Brad Pitt
    Julia Roberts
    Winona Ryder
    Brooke Shields
    Anna Nicole Smith
    Chris Tucker

    Broadcasting[/b]
    Maria Bartiromo
    Elizabeth Hasselbeck
    Soledad O'Brian
    Rachael Ray

    Music[/b]
    Jerry Cantrell
    Kurt Cobain & Courtney Love
    Sean Combs
    Curtis Jackson (50 Cent)
    Queen Latifah
    The members of The Pixies
    The members of Radiohead
    The members of Korn
    The member of your Dad in your Mom in the Summer of Love
    Layne Staley
    Kanye West
    Eddie Vedder

    Politics[/b]
    Tucker Carlson
    Bobby Jindal
    Markos Moulitsas Zuniga

    Sports[/b]
    Lance Armstrong
    Tom Brady
    Peyton Manning

    Technology[/b]
    Larry Page

    We all can relate to some of these personalities or events listed and some not much at all- they seem popular now, especially with that sports category, those guys are all pretty current but if they were born within the supposed time frame their careers are representative. Then again, wikipedia still has that new car smell so I'd expect it to be a little biased towards now as opposed to then.

    I think the whole generation naming is kind of ridiculous, someone says something to define an age group in one fleeting moment, then it just gets adapted and manipulated as time goes on. Hence the dude who coined the phrase not even being represented anymore by the category shifting with each journalist who uses it for buzz. The gen x evolution creeps forward '60,'61,'63,'65

    I'm gonna go there,

    This album def solidified the effect of that whole scene/style within pop culture immediately after the wave of Nevermind and that whole style hit mainstream, and also because Matt Dillon is in it rocking a most righteously musical t-shirt.

    not a sgt pepper tho unless you mean the beatles being a little come lately on the psych tip and that record further emboldening the wave.
    nevermind as to 13th floor elevators or something

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    The Gen X Pet Sounds?


    Generation Josh.

    - spidey

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,902 Posts
    I've never listened to this album all the way through. But maybe this brit album?



  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    I've never listened to this album all the way through. But maybe this brit album?



    the horror... the horror...

  • masarumasaru 63 Posts
    While I have to agree with Nevermind and Ok Computer, the album that I think redefined "underground" music for a lot of people might have been:






  • MjukisMjukis 1,675 Posts

    Neutral Milk hotel= more like the Pearls before swine of gen x.

    Great album though.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    While I have to agree with Nevermind and Ok Computer, the album that I think redefined "underground" music for a lot of people might have been:






    That album is an entity unto itself.

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    I've never listened to this album all the way through. But maybe this brit album?



    That would be this generations The Monkees.

    As far as I see it there could never be a generation x Sgt Pepper due to (as this thread illustrates) the diverging tastes of the generation just as there will never be another band as big or as widely lauded by so many different sections of society as the beatles.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,789 Posts
    from wikipedia...

    Famous and successful Gen X People IN AMERICA?[/b] (1961-1981)

    Arts/Entertainment[/b]
    Jennifer Aniston
    Naomi Campbell
    Leonardo Dicaprio
    Tina Fey
    Jamie Foxx
    Teri Hatcher
    Ethan Hawke
    Angelina Jolie
    Kate Moss
    River Phoenix
    Brad Pitt
    Julia Roberts
    Winona Ryder
    Brooke Shields
    Anna Nicole Smith
    Chris Tucker


    Movies, especially Hollywood, reach an international audience, so this list looks valid. However, who the fuck are


    Broadcasting[/b]
    Maria Bartiromo
    Elizabeth Hasselbeck
    Soledad O'Brian
    Rachael Ray

    Politics[/b]
    Tucker Carlson
    Bobby Jindal
    Markos Moulitsas Zuniga

    Sports[/b]
    Tom Brady
    Peyton Manning

    Tom Brady? The Brady bunch play sports? I know Lance Armstrong for the whole testicular cancer did he didn't he BALCO business/Tour de Farce.

    We all can relate to some of these personalities or events listed and some not much at all- they seem popular now, especially with that sports category, those guys are all pretty current but if they were born within the supposed time frame their careers are representative. Then again, wikipedia is a little biased towards America[/b] as opposed to the rest of the world[/b].

    If you're going to look for a Gen-X Sgt Peppers, then it's going to need a broader appeal than anything from a list that features Soledad Mackdaddy O'Brian and Markos Moulitsas Z??niga... did somebody make that last name up to see if anybody would notice? Please. WTF.

    I'm not saying a list of important Gen-Xers shouldn't include Americans, or that it must be globally encompassing, but for crying out loud, at least list some names that don't stink of provincialism, eg sports Michael I've-heard-of-him Jordan.

    Sgt Pepper would/still does get props anywhere, as already mentioned it had a very broad influence g-l-o-b-a-l-l-y. Thriller by MJ has been the best suggestion I've seen so far as a big album you could mention to anybody - they won't necessarily have even listened to it, any of it, but they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Sorry to let some of you guys down, but Notorious Big isn't that notorious or big. I think a generational LP would need to be well known even if not well heard.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts

    Really, now, are The Chronic and Ready to Die going to be the albums you and your children are going to bond over? I can see it now... "Son, remember the days when we would play catch, work on the car, and listen to 'Bitches Ain't Shit' and 'Deeez Nuuuts.' I feel like you're growing up too fast!"

    Ha ha. Actually, I think yes. Once I get past and accept the fact that my son's first words will be bitch or motherfucker. And so far he seems to ride for No Way Out over RTD.

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