JRoot - I still say OK Computer doesn't come close to qualifying. A true Sgt Pepper style record really has to be a massive commercial hit in my book. "OK Computer" sold about 7 million (which is of course not small potatoes), but the 3 I named are all each over 20 million sold worldwide, and all had big singles. Maybe Radiohead aren't a singles band, but you need hit singles to "capture the zeitgiest"...
yes! tho i think their first ep is what id put up on a pedestal. i remember the first time i heard 8ball at my cousins and they said the f word like 100 times in 3 minutes and i ran all scared to my sister to tell her "theyre saying cuss words!!!" i dont know why but i always always loved panic zone.
Sort of, but not really. I mean, Run-DMC might have been a the gateway into hip-hop for a lot of people, but white kids weren't the majority of people at shows until after the Beasties blew up.
Sort of, but not really. I mean, Run-DMC might have been a the gateway into hip-hop for a lot of people, but white kids weren't the majority of people at shows until after the Beasties blew up.
are we talking about shows now? i mean really, alls i gotta say is "elementary school talent show" and im sure everyone can recall the dance routine with like 5 white kids getten epileptic to some its tricky. sure they may not have been at the arena, but every kid in my podunk redneck town knew u be illin. from what i remember, the beastie boys were definately on some tiger beat pin up shit at my school but kids werent really bumping it.
I don't know any Gen Xers who have NWA, Dr. Dre, or Biggie in their collections (how in the world do those last two count as Gen X artists?). Only on SoulStrut would those albums be considered the greatest, most groundbreaking of their generation.
Thriller has to qualify. Fuck that talk about him being dangerous or black, as if people listen to music because it's dangerous.
Dr. Dre, or Biggie in their collections (how in the world do those last two count as Gen X artists?).
Christopher George Latore Wallace (May 21, 1972 ??? March 9, 1997)
Andr?? Romell Young (born February 18, 1965)
Gen X = DOB 1965-1980
Yeah, I know that they belong to Gen X, yet I don't know anyone their age that listens to their music. If I asked my sisters and brothers-in-law if those guys were the the Beatles of their generation, well, I don't think they'd let me forget that question.
Really, now, are The Chronic and Ready to Die going to be the albums you and your children are going to bond over? I can see it now... "Son, remember the days when we would play catch, work on the car, and listen to 'Bitches Ain't Shit' and 'Deeez Nuuuts.' I feel like you're growing up too fast!"
Arts/Entertainment[/b] Jennifer Aniston Naomi Campbell Leonardo Dicaprio Tina Fey Jamie Foxx Teri Hatcher Ethan Hawke Angelina Jolie Kate Moss River Phoenix Brad Pitt Julia Roberts Winona Ryder Brooke Shields Anna Nicole Smith Chris Tucker
Broadcasting[/b] Maria Bartiromo Elizabeth Hasselbeck Soledad O'Brian Rachael Ray
Music[/b] Jerry Cantrell Kurt Cobain & Courtney Love Sean Combs Curtis Jackson (50 Cent) Queen Latifah The members of The Pixies The members of Radiohead The members of Korn The member of your Dad in your Mom in the Summer of Love Layne Staley Kanye West Eddie Vedder
Politics[/b] Tucker Carlson Bobby Jindal Markos Moulitsas Zuniga
Sports[/b] Lance Armstrong Tom Brady Peyton Manning
Technology[/b] Larry Page
We all can relate to some of these personalities or events listed and some not much at all- they seem popular now, especially with that sports category, those guys are all pretty current but if they were born within the supposed time frame their careers are representative. Then again, wikipedia still has that new car smell so I'd expect it to be a little biased towards now as opposed to then.
I think the whole generation naming is kind of ridiculous, someone says something to define an age group in one fleeting moment, then it just gets adapted and manipulated as time goes on. Hence the dude who coined the phrase not even being represented anymore by the category shifting with each journalist who uses it for buzz. The gen x evolution creeps forward '60,'61,'63,'65
I'm gonna go there,
This album def solidified the effect of that whole scene/style within pop culture immediately after the wave of Nevermind and that whole style hit mainstream, and also because Matt Dillon is in it rocking a most righteously musical t-shirt.
not a sgt pepper tho unless you mean the beatles being a little come lately on the psych tip and that record further emboldening the wave. nevermind as to 13th floor elevators or something
I've never listened to this album all the way through. But maybe this brit album?
That would be this generations The Monkees.
As far as I see it there could never be a generation x Sgt Pepper due to (as this thread illustrates) the diverging tastes of the generation just as there will never be another band as big or as widely lauded by so many different sections of society as the beatles.
Famous and successful Gen X People IN AMERICA?[/b] (1961-1981)
Arts/Entertainment[/b] Jennifer Aniston Naomi Campbell Leonardo Dicaprio Tina Fey Jamie Foxx Teri Hatcher Ethan Hawke Angelina Jolie Kate Moss River Phoenix Brad Pitt Julia Roberts Winona Ryder Brooke Shields Anna Nicole Smith Chris Tucker
Movies, especially Hollywood, reach an international audience, so this list looks valid. However, who the fuck are
Broadcasting[/b] Maria Bartiromo Elizabeth Hasselbeck Soledad O'Brian Rachael Ray
Politics[/b] Tucker Carlson Bobby Jindal Markos Moulitsas Zuniga
Sports[/b] Tom Brady Peyton Manning
Tom Brady? The Brady bunch play sports? I know Lance Armstrong for the whole testicular cancer did he didn't he BALCO business/Tour de Farce.
We all can relate to some of these personalities or events listed and some not much at all- they seem popular now, especially with that sports category, those guys are all pretty current but if they were born within the supposed time frame their careers are representative. Then again, wikipedia is a little biased towards America[/b] as opposed to the rest of the world[/b].
If you're going to look for a Gen-X Sgt Peppers, then it's going to need a broader appeal than anything from a list that features Soledad Mackdaddy O'Brian and Markos Moulitsas Z??niga... did somebody make that last name up to see if anybody would notice? Please. WTF.
I'm not saying a list of important Gen-Xers shouldn't include Americans, or that it must be globally encompassing, but for crying out loud, at least list some names that don't stink of provincialism, eg sports Michael I've-heard-of-him Jordan.
Sgt Pepper would/still does get props anywhere, as already mentioned it had a very broad influence g-l-o-b-a-l-l-y. Thriller by MJ has been the best suggestion I've seen so far as a big album you could mention to anybody - they won't necessarily have even listened to it, any of it, but they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Sorry to let some of you guys down, but Notorious Big isn't that notorious or big. I think a generational LP would need to be well known even if not well heard.
Really, now, are The Chronic and Ready to Die going to be the albums you and your children are going to bond over? I can see it now... "Son, remember the days when we would play catch, work on the car, and listen to 'Bitches Ain't Shit' and 'Deeez Nuuuts.' I feel like you're growing up too fast!"
Ha ha. Actually, I think yes. Once I get past and accept the fact that my son's first words will be bitch or motherfucker. And so far he seems to ride for No Way Out over RTD.
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yes! tho i think their first ep is what id put up on a pedestal. i remember the first time i heard 8ball at my cousins and they said the f word like 100 times in 3 minutes and i ran all scared to my sister to tell her "theyre saying cuss words!!!" i dont know why but i always always loved panic zone.
i would think run dmc is responsible for that.
Sort of, but not really. I mean, Run-DMC might have been a the gateway into hip-hop for a lot of people, but white kids weren't the majority of people at shows until after the Beasties blew up.
Hells no - return to THRILLER for the ultimate in "Black music for white people shook by Black people."
Not that it isn't a great album. But it's hard to get more un-threatening than MJ, even when he was Black.
I made it two whole weeks.
are we talking about shows now? i mean really, alls i gotta say is "elementary school talent show" and im sure everyone can recall the dance routine with like 5 white kids getten epileptic to some its tricky. sure they may not have been at the arena, but every kid in my podunk redneck town knew u be illin. from what i remember, the beastie boys were definately on some tiger beat pin up shit at my school but kids werent really bumping it.
youre partially right. though im sure there are folks that preceeded him in this area. however, as far as rap goes, run dmc is it.
What?! This isn't even on the radar of Gen Xers.
I don't know any Gen Xers who have NWA, Dr. Dre, or Biggie in their collections (how in the world do those last two count as Gen X artists?). Only on SoulStrut would those albums be considered the greatest, most groundbreaking of their generation.
Thriller has to qualify. Fuck that talk about him being dangerous or black, as if people listen to music because it's dangerous.
What the hell is that? I'm definitely
I'd say if everyone can't recognize it it's a no go.
Christopher George Latore Wallace (May 21, 1972 ??? March 9, 1997)
Andr?? Romell Young (born February 18, 1965)
Gen X = DOB 1965-1980
Motown
Yeah, I know that they belong to Gen X, yet I don't know anyone their age that listens to their music. If I asked my sisters and brothers-in-law if those guys were the the Beatles of their generation, well, I don't think they'd let me forget that question.
Really, now, are The Chronic and Ready to Die going to be the albums you and your children are going to bond over? I can see it now... "Son, remember the days when we would play catch, work on the car, and listen to 'Bitches Ain't Shit' and 'Deeez Nuuuts.' I feel like you're growing up too fast!"
We all can relate to some of these personalities or events listed and some not much at all- they seem popular now, especially with that sports category, those guys are all pretty current but if they were born within the supposed time frame their careers are representative. Then again, wikipedia still has that new car smell so I'd expect it to be a little biased towards now as opposed to then.
I think the whole generation naming is kind of ridiculous, someone says something to define an age group in one fleeting moment, then it just gets adapted and manipulated as time goes on. Hence the dude who coined the phrase not even being represented anymore by the category shifting with each journalist who uses it for buzz. The gen x evolution creeps forward '60,'61,'63,'65
I'm gonna go there,
This album def solidified the effect of that whole scene/style within pop culture immediately after the wave of Nevermind and that whole style hit mainstream, and also because Matt Dillon is in it rocking a most righteously musical t-shirt.
not a sgt pepper tho unless you mean the beatles being a little come lately on the psych tip and that record further emboldening the wave.
nevermind as to 13th floor elevators or something
Generation Josh.
- spidey
the horror... the horror...
Neutral Milk hotel= more like the Pearls before swine of gen x.
Great album though.
That album is an entity unto itself.
That would be this generations The Monkees.
As far as I see it there could never be a generation x Sgt Pepper due to (as this thread illustrates) the diverging tastes of the generation just as there will never be another band as big or as widely lauded by so many different sections of society as the beatles.
Ha ha. Actually, I think yes. Once I get past and accept the fact that my son's first words will be bitch or motherfucker. And so far he seems to ride for No Way Out over RTD.