Ann Coulter on CNBC Show: Jews Need 'Perfecting'

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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003657196Ann Coulter on CNBC Show: Jews Need 'Perfecting' By E&P Staff Published: October 11, 2007 12:15 AM ET updated 1:30 PM ET NEW YORK Appearing on Donny Deutsch's CNBC show, "The Big Idea," on Monday night, columnist/author Ann Coulter suggested that the U.S. would be a better place if there weren't any Jewish people and that they needed to "perfect" themselves into -- Christians.It led Deutsch to suggest that surely she couldn't mean that, and when she insisted she did, he said this sounded "anti-Semitic."Asked by Deutsch whether she wanted to be like "the head of Iran" and "wipe Israel off the Earth," Coulter stated: "No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. ... That's what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament."Deutsch told E&P's sibling magazine, Adweek, today, "I was offended. And then, and this was interesting, she started to back off and seemed a little upset."Asked to gauge her reaction, Deutsch said, "I think she got frightened that maybe she had crossed a line, that this was maybe a faux pas of great proportions. I mean, did it show ignorance? Anti-Semitism? It wasn't just one of those silly things."A transcript, provided by Media Matters, follows. *DEUTSCH: Christian -- so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian? COULTER: Yes.DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not.DEUTSCH: I actually am. That's not true. I really am. But -- so we would be better if we were - if people -- if there were no Jews, no Buddhists --COULTER: Whenever I'm harangued by --DEUTSCH: -- in this country? You can't believe that. COULTER: -- you know, liberals on diversity --DEUTSCH: Here you go again.COULTER: No, it's true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that's really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And --DEUTSCH: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying. DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some Seinfeld episode? OK. COULTER: But yeah, I think that's reflective of what's going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches -- the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous. DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or -- COULTER: Yeah.DEUTSCH: Really?COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track. DEUTSCH: Really?COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey. DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that. COULTER: Yes. DEUTSCH: You can't possibly -- you're too educated, you can't -- you're like my friend in --COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey. DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean --COULTER: We have the fast-track program. DEUTSCH: Why don't I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can't believe that. COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, "Let's wipe Israel" --COULTER: I don't know if you've been paying attention. DEUTSCH: "Let's wipe Israel off the earth." I mean, what, no Jews?COULTER: No, we think -- we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn't really say that, did you? COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners -- DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued -- when you say something absurd like that, there's no --COULTER: What's absurd? DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I'm going to go off and try to perfect myself --COULTER: Well, that's what the New Testament says.DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans, and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I'm offended by that personally. And we'll have more Big Idea when we come back. [...]DEUTSCH: Welcome back to The Big Idea. During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I'm going to give her a chance. So you don't think that was offensive?COULTER: No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.DEUTSCH: You said -- your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.DEUTSCH: But that's what you said -- don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic --COULTER: No!DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought. ***
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  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    I like this part:


    COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

  • spelunkspelunk 3,400 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

  • I like this part:


    COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

    that is indeed the best part.

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts
    I like this part:


    COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

    that is indeed the best part.
    That whole transcript is mind-blowing.

    People like her should be rounded up
    and put on a flight to the Moon.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Freedom Of Stupidity Baby!!!


  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    Ann Coulter must have, like, 10 aliases on Soulstrut.

  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts
    people give this cunt waaaay tooooo much attention.

  • DjArcadianDjArcadian 3,630 Posts
    people give this cunt waaaay tooooo much attention.

    I think she may have done herself in with this. Where's the Youtube?

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Ann Coulter must have, like, 10 aliases on Soulstrut.

    Name 2 or your soft.


  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Damn Drew....you pulled that post faaaast!!


  • onetetonetet 1,754 Posts


    People like her should be rounded up
    and put on a flight to the Moon.

    Please do give her a cracked helmet.



  • "Um, JC, can you explain your Fast Track Program again?"

  • edith headedith head 5,106 Posts
    I like this part:


    COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

    the "so you're lying" part is the icing on the cake.

  • GambleGamble 844 Posts

    People like her should be rounded up
    and put on a flight to the Moon.

    I think at this point i would rather put myself on a flight to the moon. There arent enough rockets for the assholes, knahmean?

  • onetetonetet 1,754 Posts
    There arent enough rockets for the assholes

    Can I just say how refreshing it is to be on a board where that phrase can be followed by a "knahmean?" as opposed to a "(no homo)"?

  • umm this is her usual ploy to sell more books by making outrageous remarks. she is a regular contributor on fox news. if you ever want to get outraged for no particular reason watch fox news. i can;t wait for the puff peice on tricky dick cheney this weekend. i think the its subtitled "hero or patriot" or some shit like that.

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Because people can express whatever opinion they want (which I completely approve of), no matter how ignorant.

    If you don't like the program, fire of some letters, do some organizing and get it's sponsors to rethink they're sponsorships, and most importantly DON'T WATCH.

    Your insinuation that the program's existence or Coulter's right to her idiotic rhetoric should be unavailable or censored is at least as offensive as what Coulter and similar idiots espouse.

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    umm this is her usual ploy to sell more books by making outrageous remarks. she is a regular contributor on fox news. if you ever want to get outraged for no particular reason watch fox news. i can;t wait for the puff peice on tricky dick cheney this weekend. i think the its subtitled "hero or patriot" or some shit like that.

    "Hero" or "Patriot"

    Oh, don't make me choose!

  • onetetonetet 1,754 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Because people can express whatever opinion they want (which I completely approve of), no matter how ignorant.

    If you don't like the program, fire of some letters, do some organizing and get it's sponsors to rethink they're sponsorships, and most importantly DON'T WATCH.

    Your insinuation that the program's existence or Coulter's right to her idiotic rhetoric should be unavailable or censored is at least as offensive as what Coulter and similar idiots espouse.

    You're missing the point. TV networks/stations get to choose who they put on the air. Choosing her legitimizes her in the minds of so many people. We're not asking why she's allowed to have her views or voice her views, we're asking why these programs choose to have her on as a guest rather than someone who isn't filled with stupidity and hatred.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Because people can express whatever opinion they want (which I completely approve of), no matter how ignorant.

    If you don't like the program, fire of some letters, do some organizing and get it's sponsors to rethink they're sponsorships, and most importantly DON'T WATCH.

    Your insinuation that the program's existence or Coulter's right to her idiotic rhetoric should be unavailable or censored is at least as offensive as what Coulter and similar idiots espouse.

    You're missing the point. TV networks/stations get to choose who they put on the air. Choosing her legitimizes her in the minds of so many people. We're not asking why she's allowed to have her views or voice her views, we're asking why these programs choose to have her on as a guest rather than someone who isn't filled with stupidity and hatred.

    But what does "our country" have to do with that? You're the one that invoked it.

  • If you ignore her, she will go away.

    If you get all fired up with your indignation, she will start fighting you, and cameras will turn to you, and she will get what she wanted.

    Turn your back, and quietly say, "Fuck you."

  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    the networks make money. this is damn good pr for the donnie deutsch(?)show.

  • onetetonetet 1,754 Posts


    You're missing the point. TV networks/stations get to choose who they put on the air. Choosing her legitimizes her in the minds of so many people. We're not asking why she's allowed to have her views or voice her views, we're asking why these programs choose to have her on as a guest rather than someone who isn't filled with stupidity and hatred.

    But what does "our country" have to do with that? You're the one that invoked it.
    Nah, Spelunk did.

  • Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Because people can express whatever opinion they want (which I completely approve of), no matter how ignorant.

    If you don't like the program, fire of some letters, do some organizing and get it's sponsors to rethink they're sponsorships, and most importantly DON'T WATCH.

    Your insinuation that the program's existence or Coulter's right to her idiotic rhetoric should be unavailable or censored is at least as offensive as what Coulter and similar idiots espouse.

    At least Deutsch called her on her insanity, something almost none of the people that have her on do.

    The really sad thing is how many people were sitting at home watching that and nodding their heads in agreement.....































    ...at her.

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Because people can express whatever opinion they want (which I completely approve of), no matter how ignorant.

    If you don't like the program, fire of some letters, do some organizing and get it's sponsors to rethink they're sponsorships, and most importantly DON'T WATCH.

    Your insinuation that the program's existence or Coulter's right to her idiotic rhetoric should be unavailable or censored is at least as offensive as what Coulter and similar idiots espouse.

    You're missing the point. TV networks/stations get to choose who they put on the air. Choosing her legitimizes her in the minds of so many people. We're not asking why she's allowed to have her views or voice her views, we're asking why these programs choose to have her on as a guest rather than someone who isn't filled with stupidity and hatred.

    Blame the public, they eat this stuff up! If you are going for ad dollars, this is what seems to do it these days. It's pathetic, but they are not PBS! It's a formula that liberal-leaning media can't seem to duplicate. As shrill as right wing talk radio is, they deliver more of what their listeners want than Air America could ever deliver. I can't really say why except that the "left" is maybe a bit more vague and not as monolithic in it's likes/dislikes as the "right". I draw the line at calling this kind of shit "news". Anyone with a brain knows that all this is a shuck to sell shit. But I also can't see the percentage in it for me to get worked up over it.

  • DjArcadianDjArcadian 3,630 Posts
    Why is it that in our country it is acceptable for a major news network to give people like this the chance to preach hate to millions of Americans on national television?

    Because people can express whatever opinion they want (which I completely approve of), no matter how ignorant.

    If you don't like the program, fire of some letters, do some organizing and get it's sponsors to rethink they're sponsorships, and most importantly DON'T WATCH.

    Your insinuation that the program's existence or Coulter's right to her idiotic rhetoric should be unavailable or censored is at least as offensive as what Coulter and similar idiots espouse.

    You're missing the point. TV networks/stations get to choose who they put on the air. Choosing her legitimizes her in the minds of so many people. We're not asking why she's allowed to have her views or voice her views, we're asking why these programs choose to have her on as a guest rather than someone who isn't filled with stupidity and hatred.

    Blame the public, they eat this stuff up! If you are going for ad dollars, this is what seems to do it these days. It's pathetic, but they are not PBS! It's a formula that liberal-leaning media can't seem to duplicate. As shrill as right wing talk radio is, they deliver more of what their listeners want than Air America could ever deliver. I can't really say why except that the "left" is maybe a bit more vague and not as monolithic in it's likes/dislikes as the "right". I draw the line at calling this kind of shit "news". Anyone with a brain knows that all this is a shuck to sell shit. But I also can't see the percentage in it for me to get worked up over it.

    Distractions. People wasting their time being outraged by the O'Reillys and Coulters. Putting the focus on people that really don't have anything to do with how our government is run.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    "Perfecting" is a really strong word. I know I have to lose a couple pounds, but, c'mon...

  • onetetonetet 1,754 Posts


    Blame the public, they eat this stuff up!

    I sort of agree with you. But let's not mince words, the public is stupid and television has played a dominant role in the stupid-making. The people who book guests for these programs know that they influence the outlooks of their gullible audiences, and they go for the right-wing nutjobs 99% of the time. Not that I want leftwing nutjobs representing me per se, but if that's the choice I'd at least like to see a 50-50 split.

    It'd be great if people stopped looking at television as their primary source of information, but that's not going to happen anytime soon.

  • DjArcadianDjArcadian 3,630 Posts
    "Perfecting" is a really strong word. I know I have to lose a couple pounds, but, c'mon...

    Jesus needs you lean and mean.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    Let me also go on the record to say that I'm all for mixing races & Ann Coulter has some Shiksa-appeal.

    peace

    h
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