Sorry Day, but I think this whole Motown plagiarism scandal is a much bigger story than the same old "name one good thing" argument we have every other day.
Seriously....who here has endured more personal attacks than Sabadaba.
Just sayin'
I think he brings it on himself. Most of his posts are short snipes. He's a rabble rouser for the most part who has suddenly wanted to be taken seriously, but only occasionaly, in the last couple months. What exactly does he expect, especially on Soulstrut that is definitely left of center with a few exceptions. Really, he wants to start shit and get a rise out of people it seems to me, and he's done that in spades.
Seriously....who here has endured more personal attacks than Sabadaba.
Just sayin'
So true, and pretty much just because he has a different opinion.
Oh he's a smart ass, you say? Who the hell isn't in here?
If I went into almost every music post and told people "Funk sucks" "You are all a bunch of white boys" "Quit collecting records and get a life." What exactly would you expect to be the response? I think it's more than just having a different opinion and being a smart ass about it. Yes, there are a lot of people who instantly get personal on topics, and there are plenty of people who quickly jump on the "ban"wagon, but Sabada plays his own part in the circus.
Seriously....who here has endured more personal attacks than Sabadaba.
Just sayin'
So true, and pretty much just because he has a different opinion.
Oh he's a smart ass, you say? Who the hell isn't in here?
If I went into almost every music post and told people "Funk sucks" "You are all a bunch of white boys" "Quit collecting records and get a life." What exactly would you expect to be the response? I think it's more than just having a different opinion and being a smart ass about it. Yes, there are a lot of people who instantly get personal on topics, and there are plenty of people who quickly jump on the "ban"wagon, but Sabada plays his own part in the circus.
Not sure I get your first analogies, but your comparing this place to a circus is quite accurate.
Seriously....who here has endured more personal attacks than Sabadaba.
Just sayin'
So true, and pretty much just because he has a different opinion.
Oh he's a smart ass, you say? Who the hell isn't in here?
If I went into almost every music post and told people "Funk sucks" "You are all a bunch of white boys" "Quit collecting records and get a life." What exactly would you expect to be the response? I think it's more than just having a different opinion and being a smart ass about it. Yes, there are a lot of people who instantly get personal on topics, and there are plenty of people who quickly jump on the "ban"wagon, but Sabada plays his own part in the circus.
So this means...
SS = Funk / So don't go trashing that musical style
SS= Left Wing Anti-Bush / So don't go trashing that mindset
Seriously....who here has endured more personal attacks than Sabadaba.
Just sayin'
So true, and pretty much just because he has a different opinion.
Oh he's a smart ass, you say? Who the hell isn't in here?
If I went into almost every music post and told people "Funk sucks" "You are all a bunch of white boys" "Quit collecting records and get a life." What exactly would you expect to be the response? I think it's more than just having a different opinion and being a smart ass about it. Yes, there are a lot of people who instantly get personal on topics, and there are plenty of people who quickly jump on the "ban"wagon, but Sabada plays his own part in the circus.
So this means...
SS = Funk / So don't go trashing that musical style
SS= Left Wing Anti-Bush / So don't go trashing that mindset
If most people are left-wing here, going into almost every political post to stir them up with short snipes is not going to make many friends, nor get many serious responses. If he wanted to present a Republican or Conservative viewpoint he could do a much better job than the one liners which are his style. It still wouldn't get him many friends, but it would probalby get more people's respect. Like I said, most of his posts are shit talking so he gets shit talking as a response.
If most people are left-wing here, going into almost every political post to stir them up with short snipes is not going to make many friends, nor get many serious responses. If he wanted to present a Republican or Conservative viewpoint he could do a much better job than the one liners which are his style. It still wouldn't get him many friends, but it would probalby get more people's respect. Like I said, most of his posts are shit talking so he gets shit talking as a response.
Let's face the facts......Sabadabba is trashed for his message not his method.
You are the exception here as one who spends time and makes the effort to post extensive and comprehensive long winded posts.
For every snarky Sabadabba one liner there are 10-20 opposing posts of the same ilk.
See, the problem with shabadoo is he is the muhfucka (like most politicians ever invented) who when asked about x, y, or z, says "Let's talk about Q and it's bearings on the world."
See, the problem with shabadoo is he is the muhfucka (like most politicians ever invented) who when asked about x, y, or z, says "Let's talk about Q and it's bearings on the world."
See, the problem with shabadoo is he is the muhfucka (like most politicians ever invented) who when asked about x, y, or z, says "Let's talk about Q and it's bearings on the world."
If most people are left-wing here, going into almost every political post to stir them up with short snipes is not going to make many friends, nor get many serious responses. If he wanted to present a Republican or Conservative viewpoint he could do a much better job than the one liners which are his style. It still wouldn't get him many friends, but it would probalby get more people's respect. Like I said, most of his posts are shit talking so he gets shit talking as a response.
Let's face the facts......Sabadabba is trashed for his message not his method.
You are the exception here as one who spends time and makes the effort to post extensive and comprehensive long winded posts.
For every snarky Sabadabba one liner there are 10-20 opposing posts of the same ilk.
Look it up.
So what does a snarky limpdick expect when that's his sole way of existing in a forum?
i'm guessing sabadaba (dubba-dubba-dubba-cha) is full of vitriol coz he ain't gettin' laid. dude, see willie nelson? he's very old, mellow and happy. pull that stick outa your ass, smoke some of willie's herbal remedy and report back in two weeks. once you've recovered your composure, you may possibly get some puddin'.
If most people are left-wing here, going into almost every political post to stir them up with short snipes is not going to make many friends, nor get many serious responses. If he wanted to present a Republican or Conservative viewpoint he could do a much better job than the one liners which are his style. It still wouldn't get him many friends, but it would probalby get more people's respect. Like I said, most of his posts are shit talking so he gets shit talking as a response.
Let's face the facts......Sabadabba is trashed for his message not his method.
You are the exception here as one who spends time and makes the effort to post extensive and comprehensive long winded posts.
For every snarky Sabadabba one liner there are 10-20 opposing posts of the same ilk.
Look it up.
So what does a snarky limpdick expect when that's his sole way of existing in a forum?
Love and respect for his brilliant mind?
Once again, please spare me.
Maybe the same respect you give to those who are just like him, those who make the same exact obnoxious, smarmy, sheep-like posts as Saba, but happen to agree with your viewpoints???
And from what I can see, Saba makes as many musical contributions as the average poster here....hardly solely existing with one liners that insult the SS sensabilities.
Just the fact that he is referred to as "limpdick" tells it all.
If most people are left-wing here, going into almost every political post to stir them up with short snipes is not going to make many friends, nor get many serious responses. If he wanted to present a Republican or Conservative viewpoint he could do a much better job than the one liners which are his style. It still wouldn't get him many friends, but it would probalby get more people's respect. Like I said, most of his posts are shit talking so he gets shit talking as a response.
Let's face the facts......Sabadabba is trashed for his message not his method.
You are the exception here as one who spends time and makes the effort to post extensive and comprehensive long winded posts.
For every snarky Sabadabba one liner there are 10-20 opposing posts of the same ilk.
Look it up.
If I looked it up would I have to footnote my sources though???
Can someone explain to me why anyone ever bothers responding to Saba to begin with?
Seriously - it's not like we haven't been through this lil dance before. Dude has his political views - they happen to be in contradiction with the majority sentiment on the board - but whatever - no harm in that.
Yet this is the cycle:
1) Left-ish post criticizing Iraq or Bush or whatever. 2) Saba snarkily responds. 3) Indignation erupts, only fueling more the point/counterpoint/snark/attack cycle.
At least when Faux and Deej go at it (no pasue), it's entertaining but isn't it already clear that 98% of the board basically is on some "fuck Bush" tip with literally a handful of holdouts?
Is it REALLY that important to convince Saba that Bush is the worst president ever?
Personally, I can't stand dude's attitude (to say nothing of his politics) but after a while, you just agree to disagree, put your "you are ignoring this user" into full effect, and step on if he's getting on your last nerves so much.
There's better stuff to educate the Strut masses on - politically, musically, youtubically, whatever.
Can someone explain to me why anyone ever bothers responding to Saba to begin with?
Seriously - it's not like we haven't been through this lil dance before. Dude has his political views - they happen to be in contradiction with the majority sentiment on the board - but whatever - no harm in that.
Yet this is the cycle:
1) Left-ish post criticizing Iraq or Bush or whatever. 2) Saba snarkily responds. 3) Indignation erupts, only fueling more the point/counterpoint/snark/attack cycle.
At least when Faux and Deej go at it (no pasue), it's entertaining but isn't it already clear that 98% of the board basically is on some "fuck Bush" tip with literally a handful of holdouts?
Is it REALLY that important to convince Saba that Bush is the worst president ever?
Personally, I can't stand dude's attitude (to say nothing of his politics) but after a while, you just agree to disagree, put your "you are ignoring this user" into full effect, and step on if he's getting on your last nerves so much.
There's better stuff to educate the Strut masses on - politically, musically, youtubically, whatever.
I totally agree....
What the hell are you asking, no BEGGING for, when you start threads that trash the current administration/America/Republicans
Your'e either 1) Baiting the very folks who you apparently don't want to hear from.
or
2) Indulging in some sort of pseudo-intellectual gang bang of the ridiculously obvious.
How dare Motown use actual facts and analysis to back up his arguments. That should be outlawed! He should just say what ever he feels, even if it is false, like you.
Let me just say one more time; Motown thank you for doing so much research and sharing it with us.
Who has endured more personal attacks than Saba? Archaic, Guzzo, Faux... and many others I'm sure.
Vitamin (1) has shown that if you come with a principled position and are willing to back it up with facts and knowledge you will get respect. Personal attacks and respect.
(1) Bush Wants To Attack Iraq Soul Strut Internet Crate Digging Forum Februray 18th 2002
Personally, I can't stand dude's attitude (I could care less about his politics[/b])
Rock and Odub....sorry if I mistook this thread to be the professional wrestling match it obviously became, but I just think that Sab's schtick is just too good to pass up!
How dare Motown use actual facts and analysis to back up his arguments. That should be outlawed! He should just say what ever he feels, even if it is false, like you.
Let me just say one more time; Motown thank you for doing so much research and sharing it with us.
Aside from the obvious ethical questionability of lifting an entire footnot from a Harpers Article and dropping it into a response you're making to a post uncreddited, the problem with facts is that if you dont reference where you got them from they are nothing but unsubstantiated assertions.
Lets say, just for fun, that I was going to try and refute one of Motowns 500 + word, jam-packed with facts posts. I would have to isolate all these facts, chase down the articles that he stole them from and THEN I could start to refute them. And, when I was all done, Motown could just cuntpaste an Utne Reader Article in response.
Its pretty sad commentary that nobody here cares where the information is coming from as long as its what you want to hear.
Furthermore, this whole claim that he's just using the same quotes, and "this is just a message board" is unsatisfactory. He is a teacher, and unless he teaches kindergarden, he should know better. I would expect him to fail a student that turned in the same thing, or maybe if the paper was on Bush war-crimes, then that would be okay? Would it Motown? Could you overlook just a little plagiarism?
I cite my references when I cuntpaste a news article. DrWu manages to do it and Fatback and everyone else here who expects to be taken seriously.
Aside from the obvious ethical questionability of lifting an entire footnot from a Harpers Article and dropping it into a response you're making to a post uncreddited, the problem with facts is that if you dont reference where you got them from they are nothing but unsubstantiated assertions.
Lets say, just for fun, that I was going to try and refute one of Motowns 500 + word, jam-packed with facts posts. I would have to isolate all these facts, chase down the articles that he stole them from and THEN I could start to refute them. And, when I was all done, Motown could just cuntpaste an Utne Reader Article in response.
Its pretty sad commentary that nobody here cares where the information is coming from as long as its what you want to hear.
Furthermore, this whole claim that he's just using the same quotes, and "this is just a message board" is unsatisfactory. He is a teacher, and unless he teaches kindergarden, he should know better. I would expect him to fail a student that turned in the same thing, or maybe if the paper was on Bush war-crimes, then that would be okay? Would it Motown? Could you overlook just a little plagiarism?
I cite my references when I cuntpaste a news article. DrWu manages to do it and Fatback and everyone else here who expects to be taken seriously.
Aside from the obvious ethical questionability of lifting an entire footnot from a Harpers Article and dropping it into a response you're making to a post uncreddited, the problem with facts is that if you dont reference where you got them from they are nothing but unsubstantiated assertions.
Lets say, just for fun, that I was going to try and refute one of Motowns 500 + word, jam-packed with facts posts. I would have to isolate all these facts, chase down the articles that he stole them from and THEN I could start to refute them. And, when I was all done, Motown could just cuntpaste an Utne Reader Article in response.
Its pretty sad commentary that nobody here cares where the information is coming from as long as its what you want to hear.
Furthermore, this whole claim that he's just using the same quotes, and "this is just a message board" is unsatisfactory. He is a teacher, and unless he teaches kindergarden, he should know better. I would expect him to fail a student that turned in the same thing, or maybe if the paper was on Bush war-crimes, then that would be okay? Would it Motown? Could you overlook just a little plagiarism?
I cite my references when I cuntpaste a news article. DrWu manages to do it and Fatback and everyone else here who expects to be taken seriously.
You're a joke really. What, did you think I was a reporter? I fly to Washington D.C. each night and have government sources tell me when Bush had a national security meeting? It's a fucking message board you idiot. If you can't tell when someone looks something up and uses it in a post that's on YOU. Get the fuck over it!
It's a silly way to dodge the argument though. I don't know that I've ever seen footnotes on a messageboard.[/b]
Comments
That's actually in the Republican playbook. Turn all political issues into personal attacks to discredit them.
Hey, was that an opinion or a fact? Do I need to footnote that???
LOL
Just sayin'
I think he brings it on himself. Most of his posts are short snipes. He's a rabble rouser for the most part who has suddenly wanted to be taken seriously, but only occasionaly, in the last couple months. What exactly does he expect, especially on Soulstrut that is definitely left of center with a few exceptions. Really, he wants to start shit and get a rise out of people it seems to me, and he's done that in spades.
So true, and pretty much just because he has a different opinion.
Oh he's a smart ass, you say? Who the hell isn't in here?
If I went into almost every music post and told people "Funk sucks" "You are all a bunch of white boys" "Quit collecting records and get a life." What exactly would you expect to be the response? I think it's more than just having a different opinion and being a smart ass about it. Yes, there are a lot of people who instantly get personal on topics, and there are plenty of people who quickly jump on the "ban"wagon, but Sabada plays his own part in the circus.
Not sure I get your first analogies, but your comparing this place to a circus is quite accurate.
So this means...
SS = Funk / So don't go trashing that musical style
SS= Left Wing Anti-Bush / So don't go trashing that mindset
If most people are left-wing here, going into almost every political post to stir them up with short snipes is not going to make many friends, nor get many serious responses. If he wanted to present a Republican or Conservative viewpoint he could do a much better job than the one liners which are his style. It still wouldn't get him many friends, but it would probalby get more people's respect. Like I said, most of his posts are shit talking so he gets shit talking as a response.
LOL
Oh please! None have begged for it more. Seriously.
How quickly we forget
Let's face the facts......Sabadabba is trashed for his message not his method.
You are the exception here as one who spends time and makes the effort to post extensive and comprehensive long winded posts.
For every snarky Sabadabba one liner there are 10-20 opposing posts of the same ilk.
Look it up.
I didn't ask about Q muhfucka!
Fuck A Bush
Does that answer X, Y, Z or Q???
So what does a snarky limpdick expect when that's his sole way of existing in a forum?
Love and respect for his brilliant mind?
Once again, please spare me.
Maybe the same respect you give to those who are just like him, those who make the same exact obnoxious, smarmy, sheep-like posts as Saba, but happen to agree with your viewpoints???
And from what I can see, Saba makes as many musical contributions as the average poster here....hardly solely existing with one liners that insult the SS sensabilities.
Just the fact that he is referred to as "limpdick" tells it all.
Must be that damn personal attack playbook thang.
If I looked it up would I have to footnote my sources though???
Seriously - it's not like we haven't been through this lil dance before. Dude has his political views - they happen to be in contradiction with the majority sentiment on the board - but whatever - no harm in that.
Yet this is the cycle:
1) Left-ish post criticizing Iraq or Bush or whatever.
2) Saba snarkily responds.
3) Indignation erupts, only fueling more the point/counterpoint/snark/attack cycle.
At least when Faux and Deej go at it (no pasue), it's entertaining but isn't it already clear that 98% of the board basically is on some "fuck Bush" tip with literally a handful of holdouts?
Is it REALLY that important to convince Saba that Bush is the worst president ever?
Personally, I can't stand dude's attitude (to say nothing of his politics) but after a while, you just agree to disagree, put your "you are ignoring this user" into full effect, and step on if he's getting on your last nerves so much.
There's better stuff to educate the Strut masses on - politically, musically, youtubically, whatever.
I totally agree....
What the hell are you asking, no BEGGING for, when you start threads that trash the current administration/America/Republicans
Your'e either
1) Baiting the very folks who you apparently don't want to hear from.
or
2) Indulging in some sort of pseudo-intellectual gang bang of the ridiculously obvious.
How dare Motown use actual facts and analysis to back up his arguments. That should be outlawed! He should just say what ever he feels, even if it is false, like you.
Let me just say one more time; Motown thank you for doing so much research and sharing it with us.
Can I get an "amen"?
Dan
Vitamin (1) has shown that if you come with a principled position and are willing to back it up with facts and knowledge you will get respect. Personal attacks and respect.
(1) Bush Wants To Attack Iraq Soul Strut Internet Crate Digging Forum Februray 18th 2002
Rock and Odub....sorry if I mistook this thread to be the professional wrestling match it obviously became, but I just think that Sab's schtick is just too good to pass up!
amen.
Lets say, just for fun, that I was going to try and refute one of Motowns 500 + word, jam-packed with facts posts. I would have to isolate all these facts, chase down the articles that he stole them from and THEN I could start to refute them. And, when I was all done, Motown could just cuntpaste an Utne Reader Article in response.
Its pretty sad commentary that nobody here cares where the information is coming from as long as its what you want to hear.
Furthermore, this whole claim that he's just using the same quotes, and "this is just a message board" is unsatisfactory. He is a teacher, and unless he teaches kindergarden, he should know better. I would expect him to fail a student that turned in the same thing, or maybe if the paper was on Bush war-crimes, then that would be okay? Would it Motown? Could you overlook just a little plagiarism?
I cite my references when I cuntpaste a news article. DrWu manages to do it and Fatback and everyone else here who expects to be taken seriously.
The Swiftboating of Motown67....
cited from Johnny_Paycheck, SoulStrut
09/21/06 07:24 PM
Like I said, its sad that nobody cares where the information is coming from.
You're a joke really. What, did you think I was a reporter? I fly to Washington D.C. each night and have government sources tell me when Bush had a national security meeting? It's a fucking message board you idiot. If you can't tell when someone looks something up and uses it in a post that's on YOU. Get the fuck over it!