Sound Library, NYC Closing?

motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
edited February 2016 in Record Collecting
Someone just posted over on the Vinyl Vulture site that TSL is closing? True? Cause? VV speculated that there was a parting of the ways between some of the owners and that there will now be 2 different shops in different locations? True or just pure speculation? Myth or reality?
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  • raredaveraredave 205 Posts
    its a reality unfortunately....

  • KineticKinetic 3,738 Posts
    Damn

    So what's the story?

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts
    its a reality unfortunately....
    What's the hell???


  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts
    Damn

    So what's the story?

    This might have something to do with the closing.....


  • el_sparkoel_sparko 884 Posts
    Damn

    So what's the story?

    This might have something to do with the closing.....


    Nah, Sound Library isn't a specialist of new shit, they mostly sell stuff for producers to flip or obscure stuff for DJs...

  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts
    Damn

    So what's the story?

    This might have something to do with the closing.....


    Nah, Sound Library isn't a specialist of new shit, they mostly sell stuff for producers to flip or obscure stuff for DJs...


    Most producers I know are making beats from MP3s that they got off of soulseek! LOL. ALL DJs I know except Biz, Primo and the Japanese cats are using Serato. You really think Serato is not a factor for shops like TSL? Jared told a friend of mine that they had seen a noticeable drop in sales after Serato became popular.


  • Most producers I know are making beats from MP3s that they got off of soulseek! LOL.


    Not a producer myself, but i find that pretty - how are your beats gonna have that boom bap when your chopping up badly ripped 128kb songs?!




    ALL DJs I know except Biz, Primo and the Japanese cats are using Serato. You really think Serato is not a factor for shops like TSL? Jared told a friend of mine that they had seen a noticeable drop in sales after Serato became popular.


    Very little Serato in Holland so far, but i do notice that the filesharing sites /apps i use have become a LOT busier in the last year.

  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts

    Most producers I know are making beats from MP3s that they got off of soulseek! LOL.


    Not a producer myself, but i find that pretty - how are your beats gonna have that boom bap when your chopping up badly ripped 128kb songs?!


    You would be suprised. A lot of stuff on soulseek is 192k, 256k and sometimes 320k. Remember that the sample then has drums and a bass line added to it and often keyboard sounds as well.


  • Most producers I know are making beats from MP3s that they got off of soulseek! LOL.


    Not a producer myself, but i find that pretty - how are your beats gonna have that boom bap when your chopping up badly ripped 128kb songs?!


    You would be suprised. A lot of stuff on soulseek is 192k, 256k and sometimes 320k. Remember that the sample then has drums and a bass line added to it and often keybord sounds as well.


    I'll take your word for it. Must say that - for some reason - downloading mp3 and then sampling feels a bit like faking the funk,

  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts

    Most producers I know are making beats from MP3s that they got off of soulseek! LOL.


    Not a producer myself, but i find that pretty - how are your beats gonna have that boom bap when your chopping up badly ripped 128kb songs?!


    You would be suprised. A lot of stuff on soulseek is 192k, 256k and sometimes 320k. Remember that the sample then has drums and a bass line added to it and often keybord sounds as well.


    I'll take your word for it. Must say that - for some reason - downloading mp3 and then sampling feels a bit like faking the funk,

    True. Faking the funk, but they can still sell the track and get paid.

  • el_sparkoel_sparko 884 Posts
    Downloading on soulseek and chopping it to make beats hasn't got anything to do with Serato though...
    Yeah i guess Serato would have an effect, but i heard the reason it's closing is because one of the two guys who runs it isn't interested anymore. JP's store seems to be doing well despite Serato and they sell similar stuff right?

  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts
    Downloading on soulseek and chopping it to make beats hasn't got anything to do with Serato though...

    My point is that with the many forms of new technology, a lot of producers and DJs are not buying vinyl like they did in the past. JP, plaese to let us know your thoughts on this issue.

  • [in theory] when downloading stuff, the chances of finding anything that doesnt ring a bell with you are really small in comparison to actual digging - limiting your possible sample potential [/in theory]

  • teddyrossoteddyrosso 268 Posts
    Mp3 manglar feeling

  • Imperial_MaoImperial_Mao 1,119 Posts
    ALL DJs I know except Biz, Primo and the Japanese cats are using Serato.

    When Biz DJ'ed where I live, he used CDs !!!

  • HAZBEENHAZBEEN 564 Posts
    Rob & Steve had a falling out. I think Rob is supposed to open a new store. This is sad news. TSL was the greatest record shop in North America.

  • coffinjoecoffinjoe 1,743 Posts
    TDL lost there lease at the old spot (ave a near 14th)
    word is that they were searching for a new place
    & rumor is they found a storefront a little further south
    in the LES

    no word on the x's new place

  • TheGoochTheGooch 541 Posts
    went there on Sunday. Did see a large sign that said "STORE for RENT". You can still find a few good deals in that spot.

  • kalakala 3,347 Posts
    TSL was the stuffy-ist and most overpriced record shop in North America.




    60 dolla fo a young mods?
    please limey,
    yes they have all the gold in the world but time for new blood
    it's like being in fucking church when you are in that shop-careful and shhhhhhhhh

    I still wish ice cube did a track about robbing them and dissing rob's British accent ,encyclopedic knowledge of arcane hip hop and cowl neck sweaters.

    I prefer A-1 for the slacker est enviorns

  • MoSSMoSS 458 Posts
    Downloading on soulseek and chopping it to make beats hasn't got anything to do with Serato though...

    My point is that with the many forms of new technology, a lot of producers and DJs are not buying vinyl like they did in the past. JP, plaese to let us know your thoughts on this issue.

    Chan's hit the nail on the head here.

  • hammertimehammertime 2,389 Posts
    TSL was the greatest record shop in North America.



    you've clearly never been to the midwest.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Downloading on soulseek and chopping it to make beats hasn't got anything to do with Serato though...

    My point is that with the many forms of new technology, a lot of producers and DJs are not buying vinyl like they did in the past. JP, plaese to let us know your thoughts on this issue.

    Well, that is somewhat true - the Serato boom is just one aspect of what technology has done.

    Hip-hop took the hardest hit from downloading and Serato. Disco is second but disco still sells pretty well.

    But the whole producer thing is way deeper than that. Producers aren't idiots, they are computer literate, and if they see a record going for $15 on ebay they are going to be pissed they just spent $60 on it at the shop. Common ass records with breaks are DEAD. Used to be easy sale. But that has nothing to do with Serato. You can't get $200 for certain records that, even though they're rare, they're not that rare. That has to do with the spread of information.

    I still get good producer money, but you gotta work a bit harder for it. Which to me is not a problem but I am sure it was much easier three, four years ago.

    There are fewer and fewer new DJs which means you have to sell to the older cats who have everything, meaning you have to consistently get shit that they don't have. The game changed and it is way more focused on high end collectibles.

    But moreover the biggest problem I see is that kids these days just don't buy vinyl as much, and if they do, they are way more spendthrift with it. I see dudes plunk down $60 easily on trashed records at the flea market but then balk at a mint record on my wall. Buyer psychology has changed a lot over the last few years.

    As for TSL's plans, I am not getting within 50 feet of the rumour mill so have at it.


  • There are fewer and fewer new DJs that buy vinyl[/b]which means you have to sell to the older cats who have everything, meaning you have to consistently get shit that they don't have. The game changed and it is way more focused on high end collectibles.



  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    right, that's what I meant.

  • BigSpliffBigSpliff 3,266 Posts
    Someone just posted over on the Vinyl Vulture site that TSL is closing? True? Cause? VV speculated that there was a parting of the ways between some of the owners and that there will now be 2 different shops in different locations? True or just pure speculation? Myth or reality?

    Reality. They got the location already. E Village.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,829 Posts
    I heard it was a falling out as well. Rekords taken and another shop will more than likely open. But I heard that almost a month ago.

  • Phill_MostPhill_Most 4,594 Posts
    [in theory] when downloading stuff, the chances of finding anything that doesnt ring a bell with you are really small in comparison to actual digging - limiting your possible sample potential [/in theory]

    Not true at all anymore. Raers GALORE on soulseek these days. I be comin' up, son!

    And yeah, like Chan said... dudes put crisp hi-fidelity drum sounds and keyboard schitts and basslines over those flat-ass 128 bitrate mp3s and viola, it's a record. A whoooooooole lot of recent rap tunes with samples have been made off of MP3s. Think about it- you know damn well most of these new producer dudes ain't actually diggin' for no vinyl. Dudes have reportedly made beats from little soundclips they downloaded right off of my World Of Beats site!!! Brothers and sisters, I don't know what this world is coming to.

  • SLurgSLurg 446 Posts




    - how are your beats gonna have that boom bap when your chopping up badly ripped 128kb songs?!
    What are talking about ? The number one song in America are Snap Yo Finger and It's Going Down !

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    Downloading on soulseek and chopping it to make beats hasn't got anything to do with Serato though...

    My point is that with the many forms of new technology, a lot of producers and DJs are not buying vinyl like they did in the past. JP, plaese to let us know your thoughts on this issue.

    Well, that is somewhat true - the Serato boom is just one aspect of what technology has done.

    Hip-hop took the hardest hit from downloading and Serato. Disco is second but disco still sells pretty well.

    But the whole producer thing is way deeper than that. Producers aren't idiots, they are computer literate, and if they see a record going for $15 on ebay they are going to be pissed they just spent $60 on it at the shop. Common ass records with breaks are DEAD. Used to be easy sale. But that has nothing to do with Serato. You can't get $200 for certain records that, even though they're rare, they're not that rare. That has to do with the spread of information.

    I still get good producer money, but you gotta work a bit harder for it. Which to me is not a problem but I am sure it was much easier three, four years ago.

    There are fewer and fewer new DJs which means you have to sell to the older cats who have everything, meaning you have to consistently get shit that they don't have. The game changed and it is way more focused on high end collectibles.

    But moreover the biggest problem I see is that kids these days just don't buy vinyl as much, and if they do, they are way more spendthrift with it. I see dudes plunk down $60 easily on trashed records at the flea market but then balk at a mint record on my wall. Buyer psychology has changed a lot over the last few years.

    As for TSL's plans, I am not getting within 50 feet of the rumour mill so have at it.

    You have to have something unique to offer. That said, I've never had trouble getting cats hooked on a beat - especially if they make visits to my place.

    Who's turning down Tribesman Assault, Donna Corbett, Nairobi Sisters, Don Carrington, to you face? Not gonna happen.

    K in Canada.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts

    Who's turning down Tribesman Assault, Donna Corbett, Nairobi Sisters, Don Carrington, to you face? Not gonna happen.

    You fail to mention that these records are under a lot of folks' radars...

    Which is why they're good sellers. Collectors are looking for different shit.
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