..popular drummers whose style you don't like..
Strider79it
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Harvey Mason
Billy Cobham
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I'd pick Keith Moon, but that's a latte pass. I think we've already had a bunch of threads talking about Keith Moon's 'meh' drumming.
why?
not sure why , but his distinctive way of playin really don't move me... the cymbals maybe ?
c'mon ...I don't believe it
not surprised you would say this. pushing buttons!
Never mind, she's really not popular.
pretty much anyone who played with Steely Dan really
What's your take on Mason's drumming on Herbie Hancock's Chameleon?
I also don't like Lenny White - really screwed up Hubbard's Red Clay.
Jack Dejohnette too
Gotta defend Mason. Master of atmosphere - check out the long middle section in Chameleon - takes it beyond pure funk whilst never losing the groove
Do you just not like a lot of cymbal work? Dejohnette and White are both like Tony Williams in that way. I love Dejohnette on Joe Henderson's Power to the People. Fits that album really well. And I don't know if anything could ruin Red Clay, come on!
True I'm not a cymbal lover but still Power to the People is one of the few LPs where I like De Jonnette's playing. Red Clay's a classic but don't let that blind you to below par playing - you only need to hear most of the other versions to realise that Lenny White missed a major opportunity. I'm not just saying that because some of them are "funkier" than his, but because he was neither funky, nor swinging, just a lame beat that didn't do justice to a great composition. Still he was only 22 at the time and I think it was one of his first sessions
I know it's subjective and all, but you both need to listen to more of his playing - I think he is truly one of the funkiest, most stylish drummers there's ever been. I don't think he's ever come across as an overpowering 'fusion' drummer, the way somebody like Billy Cobham can. The other thing about Harvey is that he pays so much attention to the timbre of his kit, tuning his toms much more than most. Check out 'Modaji' from his Marching In The Streets album to hear how sonorous they are. He influenced a lot of my digging for a while as I went through his discography - that's him on the classic Sylvers albums, massive numbers of mid 70's Blue Note, Prestige LPs - and of course Headhunters.
This is Harvey Mason on drums with the Jacksons (Mizell produced)
Harvey is one of the greatest drummers of all time - RECOGNISE!
plays the same beat for every single Beatles song
I would argue that he is one of the most underrated rock drummers...my vote goes to Neil Peart, dude has never made my foot tap once, hate his style, so non swinging
Yeah, I'm not a crazy White fan but Love Love Love Red Clay. And you might be right about his other playing. But maybe dig into Dejohnette's side gigs: Jackie Mclean- Demon's Dance and Miles Davis- Bitches' Brew for example. Can't go wrong with either of those.
Modaji is a good example of the way I don't like him... that toms fill is nice, but he doesn't do much in that version (monotonous steady hi hat).
.. well, check out Modaji on Dave Grusin "One of a Kind" Lp instead, how Steve Gadd give a different spin (better imo) to that great composition...
I have gone cool on Dennis Chambers. Sometimes it seems just too much.
you could say the same of Matt Cameron, who play the same beat for every single Pearl Jam song...
it seems he regressed since his Soundgarden days.....
Really?
This is my personal fav, sounds like John Bonham sitting in with Gary Numan:
We'll have to agree to disagree! I don't understand what you think a drummer should be doing in a song like Modaji (it's quiet, laid back) - to my mind the hi hat is not monotonous - Harvey is in fact doing what he does every time he plays - playing musically, listening to the other players and reacting, and playing something that sounds just right, *with feeling*. Some of the grooves he holds down are ridiculous, and it's a testament to his musicality that he's not flossing his technique every time he sits at the kit (like some do). It's a bit like saying 'Miles isn't that great a trumpeter, there's this one song where he only plays a few notes, it's really boring!' It's not just what Harvey plays, it's how he plays it. If you want to hear what Harvey *can* do, then listen to 'Shiftless Shuffle' from the Mr Hands album (if you haven't already) - it was culled from the 1973 recording session for 'Headhunters' (they recorded 8 tracks and only had space for 4 on the eventual LP). If you don't like his playing then you've got a problem, because he's on thousands of excellent albums!