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Madlib's 'King of the Wigflip'

white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
edited September 2008 in Strut Central
Has there been a thread about this? b,121b,121I love BBE's Beat Generation series. It's a cool concept that allows producers to spread their wings and do what they damn please. The reviews for Madlib's installment (reportedly the label's last in the series) seem positive so far and yet the ones I have read tend to fawn over anything he touches as gold already. b,121b,121What's the Strut consensus? Does it fall into his lazy Yesterday's New Quintet stuff or his more-inspired, well-rounded stuff like, say, i1Madvillainy[/i]?b,121b, 21My top four Beat Generation series:b,121b,1211.) Welcome 2 Detroitb,1212.) Petestrumentalsb,121b,121b, 21b,121b,121b,1213.) The Magnificent (first entry)b,1214.) Adventures in Lo-Fi (King Britt)b,121b,121b,121(Still haven't heard the Marley Marl or the Will.I.Am installements.)
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  • rascmonrascmon 441 Posts
    it's ok. i think i'm growing out of being excited about madlib stuff. Blow the horns on em is a cool track though.
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    criminally overrated. b,121b,121and I agree with your BBE Beat Generation ranking. All three of really f*cking good for what they are/where.
  • m_dejeanm_dejean Quadratisch. Praktisch. Gut. 2,946 Posts
    There's some cool tracks on Spinna's too.
  • pencilfacepencilface 674 Posts
    the madlib one sounds like turds to me...b,121b,121 i havent really enjoyed much he's released of late. those indian beatkondukta things were super dull.b,121b,121 has anyone heard the Madvillan remixes he;s just released?
  • georgewbeatsgeorgewbeats 6 Posts
    madlib needs to stop smoking so much reefer. imagine how much better his sh*t would be!!!
  • 45toLife45toLife 37 Posts
    He's gotta aiight outta me. Nothing ground breaking. I feel as though he has lost his interest. I lost my interest for him when I saw him live. He was falling off the entire time and seemed so lazy with everything. Maybe he is better off at home. I gave him the benefit of the doubt about having a bad night until I asked others and the concesus was in that he was a pretty weak live show cat.
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    b,121 Maybe he is better off at home. I gave him the benefit of the doubt about having a bad night until I asked others and the concesus was in that he was a pretty weak live show cat.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I always heard wolf has to beg him to do shows, because he hates it.
  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
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    b,121There's some cool tracks on Spinna's too.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I knew I was forgetting one! A couple really nice moments on that Spinna album. My favorite is that schmoove R&B track, I think it's called "Surely"???
  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    I had to turn this off mid-way through.b,121b,121The Dil Cosby Suite (Beatkonducta Dilla tribute) release is much better.b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
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    b,121He's gotta aiight outta me. Nothing ground breaking. I feel as though he has lost his interest. I lost my interest for him when I saw him live. He was falling off the entire time and seemed so lazy with everything. Maybe he is better off at home. I gave him the benefit of the doubt about having a bad night until I asked others and the concesus was in that he was a pretty weak live show cat.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cos3ve.gif" alt="" /1b,121b,121lost so much respect for the dude when i saw him live. he did a super wack dj set then proceeded to pound on a drum kit with no sense of rythm or any real regard for the crowd for over an hour.
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    b,121he's still the final boss in modern rap producers.
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    b,121nobody out there is even close to seeing him in terms of innovation/ideas.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I feel you, but I think Flying Lotus is redefining has redefined hiphop.b,121Though I'm no hiphop expert.
  • UnconSciUnconSci 824 Posts
    No he hasn't.... flying lotus is riding trends...
  • jeejjeej 21 Posts
    Lotus has just hit it from a different angle and it sounds fresh, although it's undoubtedly not for everyone. It's not exactly straight up hip-hop.
  • UnconSciUnconSci 824 Posts
    dude is tight... but hes not re-inventing anything...b,121b,121either way... dance floor dale is a tight video.. and i don't mind the dudes shit... i just don't get the hype. And i live in LA...
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    b,121There's some cool tracks on Spinna's too.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I haven't read all that but I think the Spinna's volume is underrated.
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    b,121dude is tight... but hes not re-inventing anything...
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    b,121either way... dance floor dale is a tight video.. and i don't mind the dudes shit... i just don't get the hype. And i live in LA...
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah I wouldn't say he has re-invented hip-hop per se, that's pretty bold. I think particularly so because it is hard to say that his stuff is always straight up hip-hop. But the genre is as wide as it's ever been.b,121b,121The hype has only really come about since Pitchfork reviewed LA. His last.fm listening stats jumped by hundreds of thousands within a week of that review being published. But he's a really down to earth guy and is just doing what he wants to do. I don't think it's a gimmick.
  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    paging faux rillz
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121yes!!
  • kalakala 3,362 Posts
    he has released waaaaaaay too much stuffb,121b,121wolf and egon+the backpacking massive that are still living at home [aka the ugly no pussy gettin'sausage rally patrol] jock that dude as a god and he fails to live up to itb,121b,121if he takes a dump at a taco stand in east LA stones throw will put it in a sleeve, start an ad campaign and release itb,121b,121overexposed overhyphed b,121b,121quantity don't = qualityb,121b,121if he released at a rate like say ...um shadow it would be more interesting ...maybe
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    b,121yes!!
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I have to mention both bapt and I "met" on the now infamousb,121b,121Stonesthrow...messageboard img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pasue23is.gif" alt="" /1b,121b,121co-sine on the dil cosby jointb,121b,121I am not checking for madlib like I used tob,121b,121i like flying lotus' stuff withjose jamesb,121b,121reinvented hiphop seems eerly similar to quietly shitting on hiphop
  • MorseCodeMorseCode 1,516 Posts
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    b,121I had to turn this off mid-way through.
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    b,121The Dil Cosby Suite (Beatkonducta Dilla tribute) release is much better.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121YES exactly. the bbe joint sucks but imo the dill cosby is the best thing he's done in years waaay better than the indian ones.
  • cascas 1,484 Posts
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    b,121if he takes a dump at a taco stand in east LA stones throw will put it in a sleeve, start an ad campaign and release it
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    b,121paging faux rillz
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    b,121yes!!
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    b,121I have to mention both bapt and I "met" on the now infamous
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    b,121co-sine on the dil cosby joint
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    b,121I am not checking for madlib like I used to
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    b,121i like flying lotus' stuff withjose james
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    b,121reinvented hiphop seems eerly similar to quietly shitting on hiphop
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I too will admit that I came to the strut by way of the ST messageboard. I remember you and bapt.b,121b,121Madlib's output is sooooooo inconsistent that I can't get excited about any whole project. When I hear that he's got something else coming out, I figure there will be 2 or 3 solid beats that I'll really enjoy, and a dozen more that I will never listen to again.b,121b,121It's too bad really... because hidden amongst the huge pile of yawns are some f*cking great musical moments. But it's just not worth sifting through anymore.b,121b,121I liked the Beatkonducta Vol5 (Dil Cosby Suite) that drewnice mentioned. It's the most enjoyable "album" he's put out in a long time. I also enjoyed most of the Yesterdays Universe album. But I have to be in the mood for some out there shit to really listen.b,121b,121Madlib has never done anything better than The Unseen. It's a slippery slope downhill since then. And I think Stones Throw's indie success has a lot to do with it. No quality control cuz they know it'll sell anyways.
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    lol @ madlib and flying lotus "redefining hip-hop".b,121b,121Not laughing at dudes themselves but just those type of comments are hilarious especially since they come from dudes who don't really F*ck with rap music.b,121b,121Flying Lotus is cool, I've heard some stuff I thought was really good but that pales to the amount of other stuff that I thought was blazing downtempo mixed with a bunch of glitched out attempts.
  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
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    b,121I had to turn this off mid-way through.
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    b,121YES exactly. the bbe joint sucks but imo the dill cosby is the best thing he's done in years waaay better than the indian ones.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Easily...b,121b,121object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="335" height="28" id="divplaylist"1param name="movie" value="http://www.divshare.com/flash/playlist?myId=5486508-61a" /1embed src="http://www.divshare.com/flash/playlist?myId=5486508-61a" width="335" height="28" name="divplaylist" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"1/embed1/object1
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    b,121he has released waaaaaaay too much stuff
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    b,121wolf and egon+the backpacking massive that are still living at home [aka the ugly no pussy gettin'sausage rally patrol] jock that dude as a god and he fails to live up to it
    b,121
    b,121if he takes a dump at a taco stand in east LA stones throw will put it in a sleeve, start an ad campaign and release it
    b,121
    b,121overexposed overhyphed
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    b,121quantity don't = quality
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    b,121if he released at a rate like say ...um shadow it would be more interesting ...maybe
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    b,121just out of curiousity - have you heard any madlib beattapes before?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,1214 of 'em just come out today with bonus DOOM remixes next week!
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
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    b,121srlsy?
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    b,121no but really...
    b,121i wouldn't have given his music the time of day until i heard his beattapes.
    b,121his albums are basically just crumbs compared to those.
    b,121and i'd say theyre better than anybody else tapes i've ever heard...
    b,121dilla or anybody else included.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121fa sho srsly! DID YOU COP THE SECRET T-SHIRT WITH GOLD FOIL AND SLIPMATS OF "DILLA X MADLIB= THE REALNESS". hella sic blud! It evens come in a clear numbered plastic briefcase.
  • georgewbeatsgeorgewbeats 6 Posts
    IMO madlib's older shit back in the lootpack days was the dopest...b,121b,121aint nuthin f*ckin with THIS BEAT!!b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
  • kalakala 3,362 Posts
    yeah man i like lootpack a lot and that is kinda what i am comparing all of his later output to
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    b,121I had to turn this off mid-way through.
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    b,121The Dil Cosby Suite (Beatkonducta Dilla tribute) release is much better.
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    b,121YES exactly. the bbe joint sucks but imo the dill cosby is the best thing he's done in years waaay better than the indian ones.
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    b,121Easily...
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121thats dope what is this off of?
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