The swiftboating of John McCain
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From the makers of SwiftBoat??? comes SwiftBoat2: POW Hulabaloo.??? Paints Kerry and McCain as "two of a kind." This purports to be a GOP group, I believe.No, I haven't seen the whole 5-part series (this is one of five).
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this article sums up nicely how utterly unconcerned the swiftboat folks were with his war record once Kerry lost teh election. in fact, it seems all but one of them have renounced all that isht.
No doubt. Personally, I don't doubt that McCain is an honorable war hero. I have seen no reason to make me doubt this. The man certainly doesn't get my vote in the GE, however.
Class all around.
why would an "honorable" war hero who is a POW dismiss reports of other surviving POW's as urban legend or compare them to UFO sightings? Something in that makes me feel that he's got some serious skeletons in his closet that are related to that experience.
No.
Well, google is your friend.
He was sitting in the cockpit of a jet, on the deck of the USS Forrestal, when a rocket from another aircraft was accidently launched and hit McCain's aircraft in the fuel tank. The boat subsequently burned and killed 134 people and injured 61. McCain escaped without injury.
The ship was preparing to launch a major strike and many fully fueled and armed aircraft were parked about the deck. At 10:52 AM a 5" ZUNI rocket accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom parked on the starboard side of the ship and pointed inboard. The rocket impacted an armed A-4 Skyhawk (piloted by then-LCDR, now Senator, John McCain) parked on the port side.
The rocket's impact dislodged and ruptured the Skyhawk's 400-gallon external fuel tank and ignited the jet fuel which poured out. A 1000-pound bomb also fell to the deck, into the spreading pool of flaming jet fuel. Within 90 seconds the bomb "cooked off" and detonated. That explosion resulted in a chain reaction as the closely-packed aircraft were first engulfed in and then contributed to a massive fire with repeated high-order bomb detonations. The ship's "plat" cameras, mounted on the island and embedded in the deck itself, provided ample video coverage of the initial accident and the subsequent catastrophe.
surely this isn't harvey's googled version.
his "part"? what do you mean?
Yep, and...
sounds like more than 134 people killed actually.
this does present some nice swift-boating material.
really though I think when push comes to shove the men behind the men behind the swiftboaters will shut them down. sure McCain is a "maverick" or whatever, but when the alternative is Barack or Hillary I don't think a lot of these conservatives will go out of their way to sink him.
McCain's various stories never added up. Somehow, he was at the center of the USS Forrestal fire. His father covered up the biggest war crime in American naval history, the USS Liberty attack, and saved Israel. Now, McCain is shot down over Vietnam, and the Jewish/Communists supposedly tortured him half to death? After what McCain's father did for the Communists, he could have demanded anything.
The Zionists cooked the Forrestal story for a reason. They said McCain was on the catapult, but video shows he wasn't.
Whether Obama, Clinton, or McCain get elected doesn't matter. They will all do what the Zionists tell them to do. The Americans will need a fiscal collapse to motivate them, and then they will seek a electoral impeachment/recall.
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If 10 people acknowledge that the sky is blue...and one of those 10 also thinks that Zionists run the world...doesn't mean that the sky isn't indeed blue.
Keep trying though...
I'm talking about the guy who says the sky is red.
HERE WE GO!!!
Even if that is indeed true...
Doesn't mean that the observations and conclusions drawn by that 50+% on any given topic are all then automatically bunk across the board.
People can very well be wrong in one area and right in any other....at the same time.
I know I'm blowing your minds with this, but it's true.
I think about 75% of these conspiracy theory wingnuts ARE anti-Jew/anti-Zionist.
Luckily, they only make up about 0.0000002% of the population.
fuck it yes it does. a racist anti-Semite is wrong about everything as far as I'm concerned. Heidegger, Wagner, I see no value in these peoples' art or ideas if they're otherwise a vile racist. I doubt you'd give the benefit of the doubt to someone who hated black people on some "well the Grand Wizard of the KKK actually wrote a very good cookbook on Southern cuisine that you should look into...." fusk that.
I'm out of this thread for good; these shits get me too heated.
the McCain thing is interesting though.
Yeah dude, you've got it all figured out.
I search google for information that in many cases I learned of off-line. I only look at the relavent page, it has the info I'm getting at, so I link it for that information. You then click on that page, and then every other page linked to that page, find something anti-Semitic, and of course it becomes my main objective for posting info that has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. We've seen it time and again.
All I've done here is point you in the direction of what you even call yourself some interesting info on McCain.
Anything beyond that is you just getting "heated" because well...that's what you do.
a conspiracy theory on harvey's need to have conspiracy theory. Made by the (straw)man himself.
the ironic thing is if I looked up enough of his posts I'd see ties to anti-semitic rants
Or it's not true.
Now, if only anyone besides Rock would get that through their thick skulls.