Baseball/Football/Basketball?
batmon
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Which Sport is has the most thuggs/Image problems?Baseball - SteroidsFootball - Real ThuggeryBasketball - Thuggery/Doofy TeensAnd dont try to bring the wwf into this. 
Part 2Is it me, or a gang of athletes have kids w/ serious health problems?
Part 2Is it me, or a gang of athletes have kids w/ serious health problems?
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I think football may have the most problems, and HGH/drugs are a much bigger issue than we can know, but Basketball has the worst image problems. With my boss as an example, I think that basketball's embrace of hip hop alienated a lot of crusty white dudes. I say this because my boss has said to me, 'I feel alienated by the hip hop culture in basketball.'
I'm not saying it's fair; I just think that is their rep at this point.
I can't figure out how much baseball actually matters outside the northeast...
Oof.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2943095
There has been a gang of cats in the NFL that have been doin stupid shit. And yes the NFL does a great job in keepin that shit smothered.
Hip Hop and Basketball are connected at the hip. Caucasoids are gonna have to get over thier fear.
That said though - Jason Kidd who isnt "outwardly Hip Hop" was giving his wife hell.
Baseball doesnt seem to have an image problem when it comes to off-field shit right now. Its seems that Steroid stuff has tainted the image.
I dont know what effects this has on tickets brought.
No doubt, but i wanna discuss the players and the games' image. Public perception.
That's some next level shit right there.
And its only a matter of time before it seeps to other sports.
Maybe so but the NBA needs them more than the other way around. See STern's over-reactive moves before the last season started. Money don't have no color.
There is a LARGE segment of white America that is no longer caring about the NBA. Partly due to the HipHop thing but I do hear a lot of comments about the integrity of the NBA's product as well. This latest story/scandal is a further exampleof that.
What does this scandal have to do w/ Larry Bird "whitifiying" the Indiana Pacers to get rid of the "thug" players?
And you man PacMan Jones is
I can't comment on anything Pacers related. I'll leave that up to you. Larry Bird was a bad CAUCASOID tho, weren't he?
PacMan Jones is crazy. Lots of thsoe fools are. I think America / the fans realize the NFL dishes out justice swiftly and harshly so the image remains largely untarnished. JMO.
I think Baseball is the next to go, as there is zero leadership, and they seem to go out of their way to alienate fans.
explain
and can u relate this to the OG question and not morph it into "NFL is the best", pleez.
Im sorry......RIF on my part.
No doubt the NFL puts a lid on Individuality but off the field is another story.
Examples include:
A diagram in each lockeroom on how to properly dress; if you deviate, you are fined.
You must wear NFL approved gear at all times; hence, Urlacher gets fined for wearing a vitamin water hat, and John Kitna gets fined for wearing a cross on his hat.
New fines and penalties for celebrations.
This is why I don't mind when players want out; there really is not a lot of room in that league for someone like Ricky Williams or TO or anyone with even the slightest bit of eccentricity.
Plus, they control their TV coverage/rights so fucking hard. No team can have their own network, since they kicked off the NFL Net. The NFL has the most centralized power and economic structure of any of the leagues.
I'm not saying they're perfect; there are obviously a lot flaws in the league. But, they do a great job of keeping those controversies managed.
Baseball's problem isn't steroids, it's irrelevance. American kids just don't play baseball like they did in the past, especially in the big cities. It also doesn't help that many of the biggest stars are either not American, or assholes, so fans don't feel any real attachment to them.
Football is hitting a weird point now, growth has been so good for the last few years, the league has been competitive and compelling, and there are a lot of marketable, talented players. But there is a lot of dirty stuff going on below the surface, and issues with steroids, the players union, and conduct off the field are going to keep getting bigger unless the league is really smart and proactive about controlling things while they still have the public on their side.
U dont think the media will still be harping on this when the season starts? The same way they chased Kobe around during his trial. And wont it be a distraction to the team? And will he start in week 1?
I think this might be the issue that kind of changes things for the NFL. I mean, this shit is just so graphically despicable, there really is no way to spin it. Add to it that this ain't Tank Johnson, but one of the top 5 most recognizable faces in the league, and this issue is on a whole new level. I mean, this is NATIONAL news, involving the CEO of Home Depot, etc.
Naw. Dude's got a 50/50 shot of gettin cut.
And I still don't see how the situation you supposed hurts on-field play.
Baseball: steroids tainted the achievements of players
NBA: fans sometimes question who really controls the outcomes of games
Basketball requires the most swagger of the three sports.
Discuss.
Is the Backup quarterback better than Vick?
And yes, the NBA is desperately trying to "fix its image". Matter of fact, I wrote 2 pages worth on this subject, a while ago.
Define "swagger"?
When your starting QB is in legal trouble and you don't know what's going to happen and you don't know if he's going to play, I'd say that can affect on-field play, it can affect team morale, locker room climate, etc. If it's a game day decisions, it will definitely affect everybody. If it happens before the season starts and he gets suspended, then they have to worry about not having a starting QB. Who's their backup QB anyway?
Hell no! They had a dude that was real decent but they traded him to Houston. They got Joey H. right now.
They should sign Culpepper and his little hands.
I'm not a dictionary, but I would say it's the combination of attitude, style, and finesse.
Exactly.
Isnt he the face of the franchise?
You don't see how not having their starting quarterback hurts on-field play?
haha....
Im just thinkin that it takes different styles of swagger in all sports to succeed.
Now if you wanna isolate that "ghetto swag" well a Pitcher needs that shit.
A Mike Vick in the pocket needs that shit. And a Rasheed needs that shit.
And that doesnt count out the dudes who dont pound their chest and still get the job done on the low.
This is another debate, abd I dont wanna go into a versus thing.
Cats w/ start to foam at the mouf.
I know someone who works with children who have autism and says a number of football players who have children have autism. Not sure aout the research but that's scary if true.
Well, the only point y'all have made is that it might affect ONE TEAM.
Questions about integrity of officiating or juiced athletes affect a WHOLE LEAGUE.
GO GET SOME REST JUNIORS. YOU DON'T WANT IT W/ THE BOY.