I find Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, and yes Gang Starr to be a lot more radically political than the kind of pseudo-intellectual post-collegiate pablum found on the Digable record... but that's just me...
You don't find talk of "swoon units" and "creamy spys" to be radical?
I find Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, and yes Gang Starr to be a lot more radically political than the kind of pseudo-intellectual post-collegiate pablum found on the Digable record... but that's just me...
You don't find talk of "swoon units" and "creamy spys" to be radical?
No, but I gotta give props to anyone who drops a "who's who" list of African/African American revolutionaries over creamy beats...
So are you saying no 5% whatsoever? I find Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, and yes Gang Starr to be a lot more radically political than the kind of pseudo-intellectual post-collegiate pablum found on the Digable record... but that's just me...
dude, not even endorsing the digable for its lyrics but i'd take pseudo-intellectual over a bunch of numerology and "knowledge" any day. and weren't digable 5 percenters?
So are you saying no 5% whatsoever? I find Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, and yes Gang Starr to be a lot more radically political than the kind of pseudo-intellectual post-collegiate pablum found on the Digable record... but that's just me...
dude, not even endorsing the digable for its lyrics but i'd take pseudo-intellectual over a bunch of numerology and "knowledge" any day. and weren't digable 5 percenters?
HAHAHAHAHA....no. They kicked some 5% stuff here and there but they were not actual God Body.
So are you saying Digable is better than Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, or Gang Starr?
Are you at all familiar with 5% ideology?
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
I don't get the Paris hate...at least not for his first LP.
Have you listened to it recently? I liked it a lot around the time it came out. I listened to it again a year or two ago and was shocked at how derivative he was as an MC and how bad some of the beats were, even for the time.
Not within the past month...but the LP is pulled out in a stack of records I was planning to do a sped-up set with...so as recently as a few months ago I was revisiting it with glee.
As I remember it, "This Is a Test", "The Hate That Hate Made," and "The Devil Made Me Do It" are all top-notch.
Although my favorite track by him may be "By Night" off of the "Scarface Groove" 12". Then there's "Lights Camera Revolution" off of the "Hate That Hate Made" 12" which is also good.
But you're talking to someone who got a considerable amount of burn out of his most recent "Sonic Jihad" LP.
"Break The Grip Of Shame" was my shit back in 1990. That was back when UK DJs would still spin hardcore hip-hop at acid-house parties. I can't even imagine the equivalent concept now.
Strut: Here is the revised top five (in no meaningful order): 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.
Even though my man's already got it, I???ve left the Digable Planets record there to spite the haters. ???Oh, like I ever had rights?????? ???Do you wish to give up the right to remain silent???? ???Hell, yeah.???.
As for the five percenters, he???s already got the Brand Nubian records (purchased at a deep discount from Jinx74, complete with snaggly teeth marks). And I repeat:
for the record, I don???t believe any of Gang Starr???s records to contain radical politics.
If you disagree, feel free to develop an argument to the contrary that rests on more than an assertion. Otherwise, just take two and pass so the blunt will last...
The striking thing about this list is that other than the Dead Prez record, all of these albums were produced and released before 1995, and none of these artists (save Dead Prez) continue to make meaningful political records.
Where are the contemporary releases that combine leftist/nationalist politics with buttery beats?
for the record, I don???t believe any of Gang Starr???s records to contain radical politics.
If you disagree, feel free to develop an argument to the contrary that rests on more than an assertion. Otherwise, just take two and pass so the blunt will last...
I see you're drawing a line between radical politics and cultural awareness...
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Where are the contemporary releases that combine leftist/nationalist politics with buttery beats?
I don't like the phrases "leftist/nationalist politics" nor "buttery beats" at all, but I already done posted 2 albums from the past calendar year that needs to be peeped on the protest tip.
The striking thing about this list is that other than the Dead Prez record, all of these albums were produced and released before 1995, and none of these artists (save Dead Prez) continue to make meaningful political records.
Where are the contemporary releases that combine leftist/nationalist politics with buttery beats?
The Coup do, or so I'm told... I haven't heard any of their post-Wild Pitch releases.
The striking thing about this list is that other than the Dead Prez record, all of these albums were produced and released before 1995, and none of these artists (save Dead Prez) continue to make meaningful political records.
Where are the contemporary releases that combine leftist/nationalist politics with buttery beats?
The Coup do, or so I'm told... I haven't heard any of their post-Wild Pitch releases.
"Break The Grip Of Shame" was my shit back in 1990.
I used to love that track when it came out. Still got the 12" lying around somewhere.
I remember first time I saw the video, which featured a lot of Black Panther footage and raised-fist typa shots. I was taping it on the VCR in the livingroom, and my mother came in and was real worried: "why are you watching and listening to this destructive music, these people are promoting negativity and violence, yadayada".
She grew up in that era and she has always been more of the MLK school, plus I think she had some bad experiences with local Black Panthers growing up in NY in the late 60s, so she gave me a loooong "turn the other cheek - self-defense is an illusion" speech.
The striking thing about this list is that other than the Dead Prez record, all of these albums were produced and released before 1995, and none of these artists (save Dead Prez) continue to make meaningful political records.
Where are the contemporary releases that combine leftist/nationalist politics with buttery beats?
The Coup do, or so I'm told... I haven't heard any of their post-Wild Pitch releases.
They're worth seeking out.
As far as I know, their last release, "Party Music" was slated for September 2001 with some uncanny cover art which had to be changed in light of then-current events. Have they released something since? I agree that Party Music and Steal this Album are worth seeking out and listening to, but I think that the first two records are better.
HarveyCanal, I noticed your contributions but in light of the petty fight-picking regarding my diction, your recent "burn" of Paris' Sonic Jihad record, the lack of assent from others, and your own disclaimer:
The production on either of these may not qualify as "kick-ass" to all, but I'm mentioning them anyway.
I did not regard those suggestions highly. Maybe that was a mistake.
So are you saying Digable is better than Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, or Gang Starr? {/quote]
No, I don't even really like Digable Planets. I just thought it was interesting that you called them pseudo-intellectual and then talked up 5% (the very definition of pseudo-intellectual ideology).
for the record, I don???t believe any of Gang Starr???s records to contain radical politics.
If you disagree, feel free to develop an argument to the contrary that rests on more than an assertion. Otherwise, just take two and pass so the blunt will last...
While the message is rather muddled and as with most hip hop lyrics, they look pretty damn silly written down on paper, the song "Riot Act" off Gangstarr's final album does contain radical politics. Again, I'm not riding for the quality of the song, just pointing out that Guru has come with some political lyrics in the past.
[Chorus: Guru] Riot act, this is where we really prepare Riot act, out here we show no fear RIOT ACT, time to protect our communities Riot act, real criminals get immunity RIOT ACT, eye for an eye - so yo who want it? RIOT ACT, rushin all you cowards who fronted Riot act, let's bring the power to the people RIOT ACT, no justice then we gotta come see you
[Verse One: Guru] Just like a thunderous gun clap, you wonder who done that Put you under with one rap, me and the brothers have come back We'll lash you for tryin that, we know you been lyin cat So now you be lyin flat, we'll read you the riot act Whassup you little fuck, get your life right Cause there's too much goin in the world, and shit ain't quite right See you're just addin to the problem Young gun, high-strung, ready to trey-eight revolve 'em Knot nearly in your waist, you step up in the place Catch one off guard, he lookin silly in the face But hear they come with the M-16's They got teargas, helmets and clubs - knahmean? It's martial law in these streets It's like Afghanistan man, it's gettin raw in the streets Still you demand your rights, I understand your plight But do the knowledge if you plan to fight
[Chorus]
[Verse Two: Guru] So realize what it is to be oppressed and afflicted Subjected to sick shit, knowin others live different FUCK THAT, the streets about to blow again They forgot, so we gotta let 'em know again Huh, we'll blast you for tryin that, we know you been lyin cat So now you be lyin flat, we'll read you the riot act Soldiers, let's show these cowards what's up The hood ain't goin for it, let's get ours, that's what's up Be sure to keep a balance to your fight And do the math, figure how to use your talents in a fight Ain't nuttin worse than a rebel without a cause Ain't nuttin worse than a people without laws 200 million square miles under attack Reperations for us blacks, hell yeah, they need to come with that Who's gonna take the weight, and erase the hate All I know is when we come through, better make some space
[Chorus]
[Verse Three: Guru] A lot of people ain't happy you can tell by their ways It's growin tense okay, I can smell it today Tenement buildings house the next killers While rich diplomats, are purchasin their next villas But for the scrilla and power, uhh They'll send some killers to their hood, that are iller than ours Still niggaz settle beef, with the metal piece And every block stays hot, like the devil's feet Incarceration of the mind, police brutality and poverty These are realities of mankind And we can't win nigga, if we keep shuckin and jivin In a minute, they gon' have us duckin and divin They got bullets for us {*automatic fire*} yeah, uh-huh They got jail cells and graveyards, they the bullies, not us We'll blast you for tryin that, we know you been lyin cat So now you be lyin flat, cause this is the riot act
So are you saying Digable is better than Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, or Gang Starr?
No, I don't even really like Digable Planets. I just thought it was interesting that you called them pseudo-intellectual and then talked up 5% (the very definition of pseudo-intellectual ideology).
It seems like you don't really understand 5% - it's not pseudo-intellectual; if pseudo-anything it's pseudo-religious but there is a very well-defined set of ideas behind it. What I meant by "pseudo" is, in the case of Digable, basically pulling from any ideology, even conflicting ones, and namedropping to make your record seem like it's more intellectual, more cohesive than it actually is.
for the record, I don???t believe any of Gang Starr???s records to contain radical politics.
If you disagree, feel free to develop an argument to the contrary that rests on more than an assertion. Otherwise, just take two and pass so the blunt will last...
While the message is rather muddled and as with most hip hop lyrics, they look pretty damn silly written down on paper, the song "Riot Act" off Gangstarr's final album does contain radical politics. Again, I'm not riding for the quality of the song, just pointing out that Guru has come with some political lyrics in the past.
Point well-taken. I must confess to an ignorance of Gang Starr's recorded output after about 1995. Nice to see that Mr. Elam decided to rap about something other than grass and ass.
Public Enemy Ice Cube (First 3 solo releases) Da Lench Mob (first album) Immortal Technique (people are nuts over hm) X-Clan The Coup Brand Nubian Kam Goodie Mob (Not as overtly political - priobably bordering more on social consciousness) Dead Prez BDP KRS-ONE
What I meant by "pseudo" is, in the case of 5%, basically pulling from any ideology, even conflicting ones like science and religious scripture, and namedropping to make your belief seem like it's more intellectual, more cohesive than it actually is.
What I meant by "pseudo" is, in the case of 5%, basically pulling from any ideology, even conflicting ones like science and religious scripture, and namedropping to make your belief seem like it's more intellectual, more cohesive than it actually is.
This is stupid. you clearly have something against 5%, and comparing an entire system of belief to a rap group is very silly.
So I was having a backchannel convo with a palomine about rap records, and he asked me the following question:
> if i were to get five hip hop albums with kick-ass production and > radical politics, i would get what?
I couldn't think of five that met both criteria (does Paris have "kick-ass production"? don't think so...), but I bet the STRUT can!
GO.[/b]
Thanks, JRoot
whaddup jroot! paris has some decent production.
here's another: Tragedy (Khadafi) - he was part of the marley marl camp. mid 80s afrocentric, anti-govt lyrics, fast rap beats. he's put out plenty since then..
Recommend his first album to your friend:
...avoid the late career Thug Matrix bullschitt.
...at the expense of some gems like this:
"What price are you talking about, sir?" Malcolm X: "The price of freedom is death"
Yo, Only one sperm cell survives out of millions Hustlers strive, the trades we learn by the buildings In Hell's Kitchen - projects burn the children Some get locked, lay in a box with no feeling On my back staring at the ceiling, through dealing Sweat dripping, hands together, my knees kneeling Where was God when my pops fell to his death bleeding? Was he trapped like Martin in his last cry for freedom? And when I die, will my soul ride 'til I see him? Never thought that I'd be overseas with Koreans Rockin' a vest, pushin' bulletproof Europeans In hot wheels - spit shit the crowd could feel Spendin' chips on Hilal meals, ripping foul steel While snakes come behind me to lace my spine Say grace and at the same time, embrace my nine We ball like ghetto children in life tournaments Lusting for platinum chains and ice ornaments I strive for what I live for - cut from an iller cloth Plot like Hyman Roth in a loft Stack chips before the new millennium curse U-N-I-Verse, we true and living heirs to the universe Rep' the 41st 'til my heart burst Ready to die - 'til we seen Biggie ride in a hearse Yo, your comrades moving like wolves in sheep's clothing Friends are foes - hanging niggas 'cause they holding
[chorus] If you can't hold on, hang on - we can make it Whatever they don't give us in this life, we can take it Joy and pain - through the sunshine and rain As the world turns, life remains the same We escaped through the flames in this game we bled Pour some liquor on the ground - God bless the dead To my niggas still living, yo - hold your head To my niggas still living, yo - hold your head
Yo, yo, yo, I blow shots from a drop rover 'til the world's over Seeing Jehovah through the eyes of a young soldier Black Moses - literature in pure dosage From a landscape of Kuwait - Jakes and vultures Too many of us lose focus Due to the fact that we're all just a bunch of soldiers Foul cultures Funny how the streets mold us Allah told us - in the cages where they hold us, it's much colder Hear the pain through my words as I harbor in song See, the world's rotten like the veins in my father's arm Used to be a follower of Islam - niggas is sheist' Study my life - living in these days is trife Heaven and Hell, a thin line between paradise Rather than lose, some choose to take they own life Said a prayer for him, hoping that his soul was blessed 'Cause my hands couldn't cover all the holes in his chest What they do? Turn around and blame me for his death I'm like Malcolm X resurrected in a Lex', holding two tecs Holograms in the headrest, yo Shoulda knew what love is, before he learned what a thug is Now we leave the seeds to be raised by their mothers I've seen the 'hood raise brothers Kill too many of us A thin line between the freedom and the foul judges In the streets, where them snake niggas hold grudges
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
I did not regard those suggestions highly. Maybe that was a mistake.
It was no mistake.
If even Archaic is expressing skepticism about the production, it's gua-ran-teed to be unlistenable.
Unlistenable to faux means I-don't-even-bother-to-listen-to-it-before-I-diss-it.
Point well-taken. I must confess to an ignorance of Gang Starr's recorded output after about 1995. Nice to see that Mr. Elam decided to rap about something other than grass and ass.
Guru dropped some knowledge man, on both sides of 1995. i think he changed up his subject matters more than you're giving him credit for.
BDP are under consideration to replace DP
this sounds like a no brainer. for the subject of this thread, to have DP ahead of BDP is the definition of
this sounds like a no brainer. for the subject of this thread, to have DP ahead of BDP is the definition of Perhaps in the production qualification. As far as the "radical politics" go, and if we're trying to stay current, DP must stay in the mix. If we're talking "radical" for '89, maybe not.
I also think the production on Revolutionary But Gangsta is very good.
Comments
You don't find talk of "swoon units" and "creamy spys" to be radical?
No, but I gotta give props to anyone who drops a "who's who" list of African/African American revolutionaries over creamy beats...
dude, not even endorsing the digable for its lyrics but i'd take pseudo-intellectual over a bunch of numerology and "knowledge" any day. and weren't digable 5 percenters?
HAHAHAHAHA....no. They kicked some 5% stuff here and there but they were not actual God Body.
So are you saying Digable is better than Brand Nubian, Lakim Shabazz, or Gang Starr?
Are you at all familiar with 5% ideology?
"Break The Grip Of Shame" was my shit back in 1990. That was back when UK DJs would still spin hardcore hip-hop at acid-house parties. I can't even imagine the equivalent concept now.
Here is the revised top five (in no meaningful order):
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Even though my man's already got it, I???ve left the Digable Planets record there to spite the haters.
???Oh, like I ever had rights??????
???Do you wish to give up the right to remain silent????
???Hell, yeah.???.
As for the five percenters, he???s already got the Brand Nubian records (purchased at a deep discount from Jinx74, complete with snaggly teeth marks). And I repeat: If you disagree, feel free to develop an argument to the contrary that rests on more than an assertion. Otherwise, just take two and pass so the blunt will last...
The striking thing about this list is that other than the Dead Prez record, all of these albums were produced and released before 1995, and none of these artists (save Dead Prez) continue to make meaningful political records.
Where are the contemporary releases that combine leftist/nationalist politics with buttery beats?
I see you're drawing a line between radical politics and cultural awareness...
I don't like the phrases "leftist/nationalist politics" nor "buttery beats" at all, but I already done posted 2 albums from the past calendar year that needs to be peeped on the protest tip.
The Coup do, or so I'm told... I haven't heard any of their post-Wild Pitch releases.
They're worth seeking out.
I used to love that track when it came out. Still got the 12" lying around somewhere.
I remember first time I saw the video, which featured a lot of Black Panther footage and raised-fist typa shots. I was taping it on the VCR in the livingroom, and my mother came in and was real worried: "why are you watching and listening to this destructive music, these people are promoting negativity and violence, yadayada".
She grew up in that era and she has always been more of the MLK school, plus I think she had some bad experiences with local Black Panthers growing up in NY in the late 60s, so she gave me a loooong "turn the other cheek - self-defense is an illusion" speech.
As far as I know, their last release, "Party Music" was slated for September 2001 with some uncanny cover art which had to be changed in light of then-current events. Have they released something since? I agree that Party Music and Steal this Album are worth seeking out and listening to, but I think that the first two records are better.
HarveyCanal, I noticed your contributions but in light of the petty fight-picking regarding my diction, your recent "burn" of Paris' Sonic Jihad record, the lack of assent from others, and your own disclaimer:
I did not regard those suggestions highly. Maybe that was a mistake.
JRoot
into the mix. The real reason KRS had probs with dude is cause of the real meaning to his lryics. The Blastmaster thought they were "TOO" rad[/b]ical.
It was no mistake.
If even Archaic is expressing skepticism about the production, it's gua-ran-teed to be unlistenable.
Go back and read the thread.
BDP are under consideration to replace DP, although one must disregard Mr. Parker's recent errant conduct in order to continue to enjoy those records.
While the message is rather muddled and as with most hip hop lyrics, they look pretty damn silly written down on paper, the song "Riot Act" off Gangstarr's final album does contain radical politics. Again, I'm not riding for the quality of the song, just pointing out that Guru has come with some political lyrics in the past.
[Chorus: Guru]
Riot act, this is where we really prepare
Riot act, out here we show no fear
RIOT ACT, time to protect our communities
Riot act, real criminals get immunity
RIOT ACT, eye for an eye - so yo who want it?
RIOT ACT, rushin all you cowards who fronted
Riot act, let's bring the power to the people
RIOT ACT, no justice then we gotta come see you
[Verse One: Guru]
Just like a thunderous gun clap, you wonder who done that
Put you under with one rap, me and the brothers have come back
We'll lash you for tryin that, we know you been lyin cat
So now you be lyin flat, we'll read you the riot act
Whassup you little fuck, get your life right
Cause there's too much goin in the world, and shit ain't quite right
See you're just addin to the problem
Young gun, high-strung, ready to trey-eight revolve 'em
Knot nearly in your waist, you step up in the place
Catch one off guard, he lookin silly in the face
But hear they come with the M-16's
They got teargas, helmets and clubs - knahmean?
It's martial law in these streets
It's like Afghanistan man, it's gettin raw in the streets
Still you demand your rights, I understand your plight
But do the knowledge if you plan to fight
[Chorus]
[Verse Two: Guru]
So realize what it is to be oppressed and afflicted
Subjected to sick shit, knowin others live different
FUCK THAT, the streets about to blow again
They forgot, so we gotta let 'em know again
Huh, we'll blast you for tryin that, we know you been lyin cat
So now you be lyin flat, we'll read you the riot act
Soldiers, let's show these cowards what's up
The hood ain't goin for it, let's get ours, that's what's up
Be sure to keep a balance to your fight
And do the math, figure how to use your talents in a fight
Ain't nuttin worse than a rebel without a cause
Ain't nuttin worse than a people without laws
200 million square miles under attack
Reperations for us blacks, hell yeah, they need to come with that
Who's gonna take the weight, and erase the hate
All I know is when we come through, better make some space
[Chorus]
[Verse Three: Guru]
A lot of people ain't happy you can tell by their ways
It's growin tense okay, I can smell it today
Tenement buildings house the next killers
While rich diplomats, are purchasin their next villas
But for the scrilla and power, uhh
They'll send some killers to their hood, that are iller than ours
Still niggaz settle beef, with the metal piece
And every block stays hot, like the devil's feet
Incarceration of the mind, police brutality and poverty
These are realities of mankind
And we can't win nigga, if we keep shuckin and jivin
In a minute, they gon' have us duckin and divin
They got bullets for us {*automatic fire*} yeah, uh-huh
They got jail cells and graveyards, they the bullies, not us
We'll blast you for tryin that, we know you been lyin cat
So now you be lyin flat, cause this is the riot act
[Chorus]
Solid
It seems like you don't really understand 5% - it's not pseudo-intellectual; if pseudo-anything it's pseudo-religious but there is a very well-defined set of ideas behind it. What I meant by "pseudo" is, in the case of Digable, basically pulling from any ideology, even conflicting ones, and namedropping to make your record seem like it's more intellectual, more cohesive than it actually is.
Point well-taken. I must confess to an ignorance of Gang Starr's recorded output after about 1995. Nice to see that Mr. Elam decided to rap about something other than grass and ass.
Public Enemy
Ice Cube (First 3 solo releases)
Da Lench Mob (first album)
Immortal Technique (people are nuts over hm)
X-Clan
The Coup
Brand Nubian
Kam
Goodie Mob (Not as overtly political - priobably bordering more on social consciousness)
Dead Prez
BDP
KRS-ONE
This is stupid. you clearly have something against 5%, and comparing an entire system of belief to a rap group is very silly.
...at the expense of some
"What price are you talking about, sir?"
Malcolm X: "The price of freedom is death"
Yo,
Only one sperm cell survives out of millions
Hustlers strive, the trades we learn by the buildings
In Hell's Kitchen - projects burn the children
Some get locked, lay in a box with no feeling
On my back staring at the ceiling, through dealing
Sweat dripping, hands together, my knees kneeling
Where was God when my pops fell to his death bleeding?
Was he trapped like Martin in his last cry for freedom?
And when I die, will my soul ride 'til I see him?
Never thought that I'd be overseas with Koreans
Rockin' a vest, pushin' bulletproof Europeans
In hot wheels - spit shit the crowd could feel
Spendin' chips on Hilal meals, ripping foul steel
While snakes come behind me to lace my spine
Say grace and at the same time, embrace my nine
We ball like ghetto children in life tournaments
Lusting for platinum chains and ice ornaments
I strive for what I live for - cut from an iller cloth
Plot like Hyman Roth in a loft
Stack chips before the new millennium curse
U-N-I-Verse, we true and living heirs to the universe
Rep' the 41st 'til my heart burst
Ready to die - 'til we seen Biggie ride in a hearse
Yo, your comrades moving like wolves in sheep's clothing
Friends are foes - hanging niggas 'cause they holding
[chorus]
If you can't hold on, hang on - we can make it
Whatever they don't give us in this life, we can take it
Joy and pain - through the sunshine and rain
As the world turns, life remains the same
We escaped through the flames in this game we bled
Pour some liquor on the ground - God bless the dead
To my niggas still living, yo - hold your head
To my niggas still living, yo - hold your head
Yo, yo, yo,
I blow shots from a drop rover 'til the world's over
Seeing Jehovah through the eyes of a young soldier
Black Moses - literature in pure dosage
From a landscape of Kuwait - Jakes and vultures
Too many of us lose focus
Due to the fact that we're all just a bunch of soldiers
Foul cultures
Funny how the streets mold us
Allah told us - in the cages where they hold us, it's much colder
Hear the pain through my words as I harbor in song
See, the world's rotten like the veins in my father's arm
Used to be a follower of Islam - niggas is sheist'
Study my life - living in these days is trife
Heaven and Hell, a thin line between paradise
Rather than lose, some choose to take they own life
Said a prayer for him, hoping that his soul was blessed
'Cause my hands couldn't cover all the holes in his chest
What they do? Turn around and blame me for his death
I'm like Malcolm X resurrected in a Lex', holding two tecs
Holograms in the headrest, yo
Shoulda knew what love is, before he learned what a thug is
Now we leave the seeds to be raised by their mothers
I've seen the 'hood raise brothers
Kill too many of us
A thin line between the freedom and the foul judges
In the streets, where them snake niggas hold grudges
Unlistenable to faux means I-don't-even-bother-to-listen-to-it-before-I-diss-it.
Guru dropped some knowledge man, on both sides of 1995. i think he changed up his subject matters more than you're giving him credit for.
this sounds like a no brainer. for the subject of this thread, to have DP ahead of BDP is the definition of
this sounds like a no brainer. for the subject of this thread, to have DP ahead of BDP is the definition of
Perhaps in the production qualification. As far as the "radical politics" go, and if we're trying to stay current, DP must stay in the mix. If we're talking "radical" for '89, maybe not.
I also think the production on Revolutionary But Gangsta is very good.