Group Home - Livin' Proof

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  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    I always liked that line about "when I'm walking through the ghetto and I'm popping some shit, I'm on the way back home drinking a heineken."

  • canonicalcanonical 2,100 Posts
    One of them, although I think it was Lil' Dap, needed a "job" to get his PO off his back. So premier, being his friend, hooked him up with a rap career.

    If that was Malachi, then that's the excuse for him sounding so wack since he never rapped before in his life. But if it was Lil' Dap that just got out of jail, malachi has no excuse.

    I love this album. It's got good beats and the wackness of the MC's fires conversations like this all the time.

  • PlanetPlanet 589 Posts
    Primo consistently works with whack lyricists:

    Guru

    Jeru


    ????????????????????????????

    Before trains were graffiti proof I used to get loose
    Dirty rotten since the days of the deuce
    Dirty, because of the skin I'm in
    The fact I have melanin automatically makes me a felon
    Even though I'm righteous, rotten's what you're yellin
    But I'm not chain-snatchin', or drug-sellin'
    According to your books you said I must be damned like Ham
    Scoundrel, opposite of the king that I am
    But wanna get funny, we can get bummy
    Take you to the East and back again money
    Filthy putrified trick, step past your sister
    Challenge the Damaja, and you'll be history
    Mortal Kombat fatality, the original don't sing no R&B
    Nasty MC deity
    Chop off domes with the poems that come out of my pin-eal
    gland, as I expand, you know who I am

    Yeah I don't know what dude is talking about.

  • I'm feelin these cats as MC's, from the standpoint that they take complex street themes and break them down to a seemingly simple, kick snare flow and get the emotional content across. This is some straight up Hip-hop shit. I'll break it down like this, these cats ain't theory they are street. You can feel the emotion when these cats come with it. I mean its all heart with them. With lyrics like "so much anger built inside /don't stop to say hi / motherfucker just die /" you gonna feel that shit. Lets face it Premier is hip hop on that guts level. This album got his signature feeling all over it.
    I'll put it like this an MC is effective on many diffrent levels. Some main things, as far as what, could include; style, voice, crowd control, delivery, emotion, ect... Being the more levels that the MC can connect with their audience the more effective he/she is. Those Group Home cats be hittin on that emotional level. I mean they def ain't on some project blowed styles by any means, but they hit you with that straight up feeling in the pit of your stomach shit.

  • Primo consistently works with whack lyricists:

    Guru

    Jeru


    ????????????????????????????

    Before trains were graffiti proof I used to get loose
    Dirty rotten since the days of the deuce
    Dirty, because of the skin I'm in
    The fact I have melanin automatically makes me a felon
    Even though I'm righteous, rotten's what you're yellin
    But I'm not chain-snatchin', or drug-sellin'
    According to your books you said I must be damned like Ham
    Scoundrel, opposite of the king that I am
    But wanna get funny, we can get bummy
    Take you to the East and back again money
    Filthy putrified trick, step past your sister
    Challenge the Damaja, and you'll be history
    Mortal Kombat fatality, the original don't sing no R&B
    Nasty MC deity
    Chop off domes with the poems that come out of my pin-eal
    gland, as I expand, you know who I am

    That verse is great, but I challenge you to post ten more that are as good from the dude...

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    You think Group Home LP will be like a rare crate find one day? Son I got "Group Home."

    I've actually always wanted to buy the rights to the entire Payday back catalog for years now. Maybe I'll do it thsi year.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    It's got good beats and the wackness of the MC's fires conversations like this all the time.

    I think the lyrical wackness iz the album's charm. Beautiful juxtaposition.

  • Primo consistently works with whack lyricists:

    Guru

    Jeru


    ????????????????????????????

    Before trains were graffiti proof I used to get loose
    Dirty rotten since the days of the deuce
    Dirty, because of the skin I'm in
    The fact I have melanin automatically makes me a felon
    Even though I'm righteous, rotten's what you're yellin
    But I'm not chain-snatchin', or drug-sellin'
    According to your books you said I must be damned like Ham
    Scoundrel, opposite of the king that I am
    But wanna get funny, we can get bummy
    Take you to the East and back again money
    Filthy putrified trick, step past your sister
    Challenge the Damaja, and you'll be history
    Mortal Kombat fatality, the original don't sing no R&B
    Nasty MC deity
    Chop off domes with the poems that come out of my pin-eal
    gland, as I expand, you know who I am

    That verse is great, but I challenge you to post ten more that are as good from the dude...


    exactly.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Primo consistently works with whack lyricists:

    Guru

    Jeru


    ????????????????????????????

    Before trains were graffiti proof I used to get loose
    Dirty rotten since the days of the deuce
    Dirty, because of the skin I'm in
    The fact I have melanin automatically makes me a felon
    Even though I'm righteous, rotten's what you're yellin
    But I'm not chain-snatchin', or drug-sellin'
    According to your books you said I must be damned like Ham
    Scoundrel, opposite of the king that I am
    But wanna get funny, we can get bummy
    Take you to the East and back again money
    Filthy putrified trick, step past your sister
    Challenge the Damaja, and you'll be history
    Mortal Kombat fatality, the original don't sing no R&B
    Nasty MC deity
    Chop off domes with the poems that come out of my pin-eal
    gland, as I expand, you know who I am

    That verse is great, but I challenge you to post ten more that are as good from the dude...


    exactly.

    I'm not saying dude is GOAT but wack? Hell no.

  • my friends, my so called friends

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    I'm feelin these cats as MC's, from the standpoint that they take complex street themes and break them down to a seemingly simple, kick snare flow and get the emotional content across. This is some straight up Hip-hop shit. I'll break it down like this, these cats ain't theory they are street. You can feel the emotion when these cats come with it. I mean its all heart with them. With lyrics like "so much anger built inside /don't stop to say hi / motherfucker just die /" you gonna feel that shit. Lets face it Premier is hip hop on that guts level. This album got his signature feeling all over it.
    I'll put it like this an MC is effective on many diffrent levels. Some main things, as far as what, could include; style, voice, crowd control, delivery, emotion, ect... Being the more levels that the MC can connect with their audience the more effective he/she is. Those Group Home cats be hittin on that emotional level. I mean they def ain't on some project blowed styles by any means, but they hit you with that straight up feeling in the pit of your stomach shit.

    Try again.

    "Hitting you with that straight up feeling" is what 'Pac did.

    These dudes, by contrast, are just plain bad.

  • Primo consistently works with whack lyricists:

    Guru

    Jeru


    ????????????????????????????

    Before trains were graffiti proof I used to get loose
    Dirty rotten since the days of the deuce
    Dirty, because of the skin I'm in
    The fact I have melanin automatically makes me a felon
    Even though I'm righteous, rotten's what you're yellin
    But I'm not chain-snatchin', or drug-sellin'
    According to your books you said I must be damned like Ham
    Scoundrel, opposite of the king that I am
    But wanna get funny, we can get bummy
    Take you to the East and back again money
    Filthy putrified trick, step past your sister
    Challenge the Damaja, and you'll be history
    Mortal Kombat fatality, the original don't sing no R&B
    Nasty MC deity
    Chop off domes with the poems that come out of my pin-eal
    gland, as I expand, you know who I am

    That verse is great, but I challenge you to post ten more that are as good from the dude...


    exactly.

    I'm not saying dude is GOAT but wack? Hell no.


    Premier cuts and scratches Jeru saying "My Mind Spray" for four bars*

    I annihilate as I articulate
    Words of power your ryhmes are unconfounding so death's your fate
    Ostentatious genius of rappin
    Is mentally clappin to take hip hop back thats what's happenin
    Proficiency and ingenuity
    Plus more styles than a Shaolin mon es tary
    In poetry my formula's deadly
    Bring your hypest man in your army another casual-ty
    Slow like demise I crept on those that slept
    Droppin my ryhme science like I'm Imhotep
    Application of mind over matter
    Made fools scatter, rhymes fatter, minds splatter
    Your girl bend over and over and over
    MC's try to touch the Damaja but you just can't win
    Excellent with the word play, you lay
    Face down, when my, mind spray

    *Premier does his thing again like only Primo can*

    Thunder on your Dome with no help from Mad Max
    Lyrics like hype tattooes go over the dope tracks
    We booby-traps, all our inventions
    We know the intentions of MC kleptomaniacs
    Rap brainiacs have cardiacs soon after the attack
    When it comes to ryhmin I slam harder than Shaq
    Accomplish the bio-feedback, more complex than an almanac
    Keep you up like an afrodesiac
    Idealist not an opportunist
    Don't molest no shorty still in all, I'm dangerous
    Mentally you can't talk to me, hear me, or see me
    You're not equipped
    From, street blocks to cell blocks my vo-cals rock
    Do more work than a crackhead with a, toolbox
    Jeru never touch-er, mic-ra-phone wrecker
    If your honey's a Queen I'll sex her
    More important, the mind strikes like the nine strikes
    a priest by May
    You reach for your uzay, when my mind spray

    *Primo flexes that razor sharp turntable wizardry*

    J-E, Rrrah-U it's a horror to you
    Lyrical kung-fu so do your kung-fu if you know kung-fu
    Dirty, down low profile
    Shoot up jams without the aid of lead projectiles
    Style's ridiculous, techniques infamous
    Take more heads than Santa Claus at Christmas
    Science misfits, meet the rath of my wit
    Immediately following, they go into a conniption fit
    Reach into my bag of darkness and spark this like an arsonist
    Blow up like a terrorist
    I'm not a sexist dont have the power to be a racist
    I'm a scientist, and an activist
    Complex yeah simple like Mixelplics
    Unlike the silly devil, I don't come with tricks/Trix
    So out there to all you MC's return to the righteous way
    Or meet death face to face when my, mind spray

    *Primo wrecks it like a 12 car collision



    WACK. And I quoted this verbatim, no i did not add the description of the scratched hooks!




  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    I'm feelin these cats as MC's, from the standpoint that they take complex street themes and break them down to a seemingly simple, kick snare flow and get the emotional content across. This is some straight up Hip-hop shit. I'll break it down like this, these cats ain't theory they are street. You can feel the emotion when these cats come with it. I mean its all heart with them. With lyrics like "so much anger built inside /don't stop to say hi / motherfucker just die /" you gonna feel that shit. Lets face it Premier is hip hop on that guts level. This album got his signature feeling all over it.
    I'll put it like this an MC is effective on many diffrent levels. Some main things, as far as what, could include; style, voice, crowd control, delivery, emotion, ect... Being the more levels that the MC can connect with their audience the more effective he/she is. Those Group Home cats be hittin on that emotional level. I mean they def ain't on some project blowed styles by any means, but they hit you with that straight up feeling in the pit of your stomach shit.

    Try again.

    "Hitting you with that straight up feeling" is what 'Pac did.

    These dudes, by contrast, are just plain bad.

    I missed that post. Fucking AWESOME!

  • GnatGnat 1,183 Posts
    I like Jeru on Groove Armada's Suntoucher:



    "And the universe will give me strength like spinach."



    but recognize that he sometimes tries to say TOO much by packing a grip of words into one line.



    BOMBJACK: thankx for the link...










  • dayday 9,611 Posts




  • LOOK! It's the ostentatious genius of rappin!


    Mentally, you can't talk to him, hear him, or see him!

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    I live right near Grand Army Plaza and every time my train passes that stop I think "Hmm, Grand Army Plaz." And that's an actual fact, just like tight jeans cause yeast infections.

    My man Eleven said he went to go mail something at the Mailboxes Etc down on Fulton Street about a year and a half ago and Jeru was working there. He said it was mad uncomfortable.

    I Still do like "Come Clean" though.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Primo consistently works with whack lyricists:

    Guru

    Jeru


    ????????????????????????????

    Before trains were graffiti proof I used to get loose
    Dirty rotten since the days of the deuce
    Dirty, because of the skin I'm in
    The fact I have melanin automatically makes me a felon
    Even though I'm righteous, rotten's what you're yellin
    But I'm not chain-snatchin', or drug-sellin'
    According to your books you said I must be damned like Ham
    Scoundrel, opposite of the king that I am
    But wanna get funny, we can get bummy
    Take you to the East and back again money
    Filthy putrified trick, step past your sister
    Challenge the Damaja, and you'll be history
    Mortal Kombat fatality, the original don't sing no R&B
    Nasty MC deity
    Chop off domes with the poems that come out of my pin-eal
    gland, as I expand, you know who I am

    That verse is great, but I challenge you to post ten more that are as good from the dude...


    exactly.

    I'm not saying dude is GOAT but wack? Hell no.


    Premier cuts and scratches Jeru saying "My Mind Spray" for four bars*

    I annihilate as I articulate
    Words of power your ryhmes are unconfounding so death's your fate
    Ostentatious genius of rappin
    Is mentally clappin to take hip hop back thats what's happenin
    Proficiency and ingenuity
    Plus more styles than a Shaolin mon es tary
    In poetry my formula's deadly
    Bring your hypest man in your army another casual-ty
    Slow like demise I crept on those that slept
    Droppin my ryhme science like I'm Imhotep
    Application of mind over matter
    Made fools scatter, rhymes fatter, minds splatter
    Your girl bend over and over and over
    MC's try to touch the Damaja but you just can't win
    Excellent with the word play, you lay
    Face down, when my, mind spray

    *Premier does his thing again like only Primo can*

    Thunder on your Dome with no help from Mad Max

    Lyrics like hype tattooes go over the dope tracks
    We booby-traps, all our inventions
    We know the intentions of MC kleptomaniacs
    Rap brainiacs have cardiacs soon after the attack
    When it comes to ryhmin I slam harder than Shaq
    Accomplish the bio-feedback, more complex than an almanac
    Keep you up like an afrodesiac
    Idealist not an opportunist
    Don't molest no shorty still in all, I'm dangerous
    Mentally you can't talk to me, hear me, or see me
    You're not equipped
    From, street blocks to cell blocks my vo-cals rock
    Do more work than a crackhead with a, toolbox
    Jeru never touch-er, mic-ra-phone wrecker
    If your honey's a Queen I'll sex her
    More important, the mind strikes like the nine strikes
    a priest by May
    You reach for your uzay, when my mind spray

    *Primo flexes that razor sharp turntable wizardry*

    J-E, Rrrah-U it's a horror to you
    Lyrical kung-fu so do your kung-fu if you know kung-fu
    Dirty, down low profile
    Shoot up jams without the aid of lead projectiles
    Style's ridiculous, techniques infamous
    Take more heads than Santa Claus at Christmas
    Science misfits, meet the rath of my wit
    Immediately following, they go into a conniption fit
    Reach into my bag of darkness and spark this like an arsonist
    Blow up like a terrorist
    I'm not a sexist dont have the power to be a racist
    I'm a scientist, and an activist
    Complex yeah simple like Mixelplics
    Unlike the silly devil, I don't come with tricks/Trix
    So out there to all you MC's return to the righteous way
    Or meet death face to face when my, mind spray

    *Primo wrecks it like a 12 car collision





  • GnatGnat 1,183 Posts
    Mailboxes Etc
    ?

    Fuck...really? That really is depressing.

    What's up Cosmo...

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts



    Premier cuts and scratches Jeru saying "My Mind Spray" for four bars*

    *Premier does his thing again like only Primo can*

    *Primo flexes that razor sharp turntable wizardry*

    *Primo wrecks it like a 12 car collision

    WACK. And I quoted this verbatim, no i did not add the description of the scratched hooks!

    Stop lying--you reached deep into your metaphorical stash for those gemz.


  • My man Eleven said he went to go mail something at the Mailboxes Etc down on Fulton Street about a year and a half ago and Jeru was working there. He said it was mad uncomfortable.

    good to hear he is still stacking mail.

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Yeah, not a good look.

    Whattup Nat?

    There was this time when "Come Clean" came out and it was like my "blunt smoking" years. That song was so NEXT I was like "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    STOP THE HATT plaese



    This shit is classic material. I could care less about his verbal thesarus filled wizardry. Delivery and beats are cool with me.





    The End.

  • I feel this was the best all round Primo album Beatwise.

    BUT... I also really like Malachi and Dap. So I feel lucky to be in this EXTREMELY small group cause it makes the album that much better. Not that I wouldn't have prefered he gave the beats to Nas, Jay, BIG, Rakim, etc...

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    STOP THE HATE plaese

    This shit is classic material. I could care less about his verbal thesarus filled wizardry. Delivery and beats are cool with me.


    The End.

    I got Come Clean & D. Original in my Dildo. For the HEADZ.

    I also got STATIC in there for the REAL HEADZ.


  • DJBombjackDJBombjack Miami 1,665 Posts
    Without a doubt, 'Come Clean' is a classic. That beat STILL gets people open.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    STOP THE HATT plaese

    This shit is classic material. I could care less about his verbal thesarus filled wizardry. Delivery and beats are cool with me.


    The End.

    Co-sign.................better than Illmatic.

  • There was an inst album for it right?

    Nah.. not any official releases, but DJ PREMIER is about to release all the instrumentals on vinyl in 2006 on his label, Yearound!!! Finally an instrumental LP!


    This album is just soo nuts. I've read that Malachi actually wanted to be a prize fighter and not a rapper.. premo said that!

  • RaystarRaystar 1,106 Posts
    "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."
    "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."
    "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."
    "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."
    "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."
    "Maaaaaan, Primo made the beat with water drops."

    Whoa!

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    STOP THE HATT plaese

    This shit is classic material. I could care less about his verbal thesarus filled wizardry. Delivery and beats are cool with me.


    The End.

    I, leap over lies in a single bound (Who are you?)
    The Black Prophet
    One day I got struck by Knowledge of Self
    It gave me super-scientifical powers
    Now I, run through the ghetto
    Battlin my, arch nemesis Mr. Ignorance
    He's been tryin to take me out since the days of my youth
    He feared this day would come
    I'm hot on his trail, but sometimes he slips away
    Because he has an army, they always give me trouble
    Mainly - Hatred, Jealousy and Envy they attack me
    They think they got me
    But I use my super-science and I twist all three
    I see sparks over that buildin - they're shootin at me
    I dip, do a backflip
    Then hit em in the heart with sharp steel bookmarks
    Ignorance hates when I drop it
    But no matter, what he do.. he can't stop the Prophet
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