RUMORS (hip-hop related)

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edited October 2005 in Strut Central
Found from another website. I've just pasted it, not edited. There's some good ones in here, also probably some bullshit! ENJOY. Some of these are rumors, and some are very true -LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee came to blows one night backstage. -Freddie Foxxx put a gun in Benzino's mouth on the Flavor Unit tour bus, because Benzino would not stop talking **** about what a thug he was -"The bridge is over" was a Marley Marl beat that Krs One and Scott La Rock found in a studio. -2pac was robbed and shot by some of Supreme's boys. -"I got a story to tell" was vaguelly based on a real life incident Biggie had when he was slipping pipe to John Starks' woman. -Paul C was murdered by his wife and his brother. -Showbiz has almost been sent upstate for attempted murder twice. -Big Pun hit Jay Z over the head with a bottle in a club. -Eric. B beat down Large Professor and ran Kool G. Rap out of New York to Arizona after 'G. Rap revealed Large Pro produced most of the beats Eric B was supposed to have done on the Eric B. & Rakim albums and "wanted dead or alive". -Biz Markie produced most of EPMD's first album. -Ghostface, Superb and their team beat down and robbed 50 Cent and Tony Yayo after 50's dis tracks. -Johnny Juice did all Terminator X's cuts on the Public Enemy albums. Kool Keith met Godfather Don outside some industry event that both of them weren't allowed entry to. They snuck in through a back window and then hung out for the next month or so recording the 'Don produced tracks on "the 4 horsemen" and, of course, all the classic Cenobites tracks. -Just Ice was a prime suspect in a murder case. -Just Ice turned up in Queens on Poet's block after the two Rockwell Noel & The Poet tracks dissing Krs One, Red Alert and Ms. Melodie with a shotgun and waited for Poet to come out. Needless to say, Poet stayed in the crib that day. -DJ Ready Red was kicked out of Geto Boys and shafted by J. Prince because of his lack of melanin. -Alpo, Fritz, the original 50 Cent from Ft Greene and various other notorious hustlers/killers from the legendary Paid In Full Posse were in the crew shots on "paid in full" and "follow the leader". -Rakim recorded a dis cut aimed at 'Kane for "let the rhythm hit 'em" and had a verse on the title track itself aimed at him. 'Kane heard about this and called Rakim to squash it and Rakim went on to scrap the track and remove the verse. -Eric B. did security for Mike Tyson throughout much of the 90's. -Diamond D and his old late 80's group Ultimate Force with Master Rob recorded a full album with Jazzy Jay which has never been heard. -A young Fat Joe and his boys Tony Montana(R.I.P) and Charlie Rock L.D were one of the top two crack crews in the Bronx in the mid 80's and bringing in thousands of $$$$ per day. -Q Tip got fuked up so bad by one of the members of Wrexx N Effect that he lost partial sight in one of his eyes. ****EDIT***^^^^^very true^^^^^ -Nas came incredibly close to being on the Large Pro produced Kool G Rap, Xtra P, Freddie Foxxx and Ant posse cut "money in the bank" as he was always hangin' around Eric B.'s studio but had gone to pick up some weed with a chick so they let the Ant kid on there instead. - Main Source (sans Large Pro) ran up in the Wild Pitch offices with machetes looking to behead MC Serch (then working as an A&R for the label) after a West Coast promotional tour went ****ty. MC Serch got wind that they were coming and escaped by crawling over the partial walls for his office and jetting out the back door. - Grimm was supposed to be on "Live at the Barbecue" but he was arrested on the way to the studio. -Rza and Killah Sin and another fam member went to see 50 perform after How To Rob and 50 got wind of them being there and dipped backstage and didn't perform, I have heard this one several times. -Redman Smacked Prodigy around the time Hell On Earth was out b/c he was dissing Keith and Def Squad. -A member of Wu got jumped at Suge's club in Las Vegas and Pac didn't like the way it went down and told Suge to squash the beef and he agreed outta respect. *****EDIT*****I thought it was keith that snuffed P out in front of his people at the Tunnel.(shrugs) -When Nas came to Boston around 94/95 somebody in RSO Crew (possibly Benzino) walked up to Nas and sonned him by knocking his baseball cap off of his head. -Freddie Foxxx went to Landspeed records like 200 deep in order to get the money they owed him. -Kool Herc was shot around 78 or something. -Grandmaster Caz wrote Rappers Delight. -Pharrel use to carry records around for Teddy Riley. -Benzino forced Mays to give him part ownership of the source. There are legends of Benzino and his people tying up Mays in his own closet. -Benzino actually one of the main reasons why Boston had such a small homicide rate in the late 90's, the Feds put UC's on every block and had a lot crazy ish going on so Benzino got a lot of the heads of the bigger gangs together to unite so that not everyone get locked up. That saw the murder lessen and the Boston police taken credit for "doing away with crime in a big city". -Freddie Foxxx did put Benzino in check on tour with the Flava Unit. Benzino was acting up and Foxxx pulled something out. -The entire city of Boston was blacklisted back in the day by the industry due to crowds and Boston rappers and thugs attending shows just to cause problems. Every rapper from Audio Two to Biggie had either a bottle smashed across their head on stage or their show cancelled due to a shooting. To this day very few rappers do shows in the Boston hoods because of it. -MF Grimm was not only suppose to be on Live at the BBQ, but his joint with Kool G Rap or 4, 5, 6 was suppose to be the lead single but he was arrested again and G Rap went with the joint with Nas. -Grimm also admitted that he came in third at the World Supremecy battle in 93, losing to SuperNat who won but that he was also involved in a shooting earlier in the day. -Mf Grimm was held on trial for the murder of a cop. -Everyone in CashMoney has done at least 2 years in prison I believe. -A boston beatboxer by the name of A-Train is said to have beaten BizMarkie, Dana Dane, and K-solo in a battle back in 88. -Jay-z was told by Scarface to change Reasonable Doubt because he actually named names of dealers. -Fat Joe gave Guru a place to live for awhile. -Guru didnt leave boston in the best of terms which is why the early of stages of his carrear boston did not play a big part. Gang Starr originally started in Boston and had a few emcees in it. Guru left for NY and took the name without people knowing. -Rakim was still in high school when paid in full dropped. -JT the bigga Figga returned Nas chain to him when it got stolen in cali -suge beating the sh*t out of snoop's/ dre homies cause they were using that phone that harry o had an exclusive phone line... and the dudes saying saying to suge "hey we roll wit dr. dre"! first sign of dre holding no weight -LL Cool J was cool with Alpo and many other rappers had drug ties then. -Tupac did have some of his enemies killed. -Eazy-E was from a very middle class family so was Ice cube they weren't thugs -Some people in Death Row got raped in the building. -Suge doesnt like game because he expose some of Death Row business (stuff about Harry-O) and because he is not really blood. -The reason Sheek wasn't around much after LOX split from Bad boy cause he was clearing up cases he had. -The real reason Mase left hip hop & Harlem is because o
f heavy extortion, not an epiphany from god Eddie Murphy lets Johnny gill sleep in his bathhouse to this day because he's broke Jaheim is in fact gay, i hear he was spotted in atlanta arguing with his boyfriend over dropping his purse or something in the middle of the street I hear from an insider source that Queen Latifah is certified 100% dyke, she just hasent announced it yet. FACT: ghostface killa has a brother still living in staten island, poor, with hardly a pot to piss in, and no support from his well off brother, its true 'cause i used to kno him, names Brian Kanye West produced some of THE best hits for bad boy back in the day and Deric D-Dot Angeletti was taking all the credit for production because kanye was under him-i heard this many times I heard Lil kim's on/off boyfriend is a hardened killer and tried to take out sombody in jersey i forget who, i think 50 cent Artists who i heard were pus*y, most robbed more than twice Busta Rymes jazze phae Nas Dr. Dre Shyheim from the wu Mase(to the 20th power) got yapped for his chain at a knick game Puff Jermaine Dupri camron(still my man tho) stephon marbury got his chain yapped while takin a nap in his car in NY Allen iverson's been robbed many times i hear young buck did get his gunit chain yapped in chicago DMX, i heard its all a front for image of course Ja Rule and Irv, but i heard irv's brother holds massive weight 50's hood but i hear he has NO thorough backup Snoop lost his juice, but is backed by the crips only because he makes songs to crip to. Jadakiss Artists i heard were thorough and why Styles p- one news story i heard is that somebody tried to rob him back during the free the lox campaign, shot the man DEAD and got off on self defense Ghostface & Cappadonna- Reason ghostface wore a mask in the early days is because he was wanted for robbery when the wu 1st blew up, Cappadonna owned some drug houses here on Staten island for a little while after he got money, i dont know if they're still in business. Game-only what i hear from HIS camp, he's been shot 5 times in the chest they say. Cashmoney CEO's Brian and Baby Williams have a brother who's LEGENDARY in new orleans, now serving 500 some odd years in jail for various murders, this is true, they do have a bro in jail who is hardcore and a lifer Have you ever heard Eminem claim that he pulled a gun out on ICP? Well he pulled a gun out on their road manager, trying to prove something I guess, well the sh*t was unloaded, and supposedly he was nervous and his hands were shaking so hard he dropped it. the only reason purple haze was pushed back so long is because frekey zekey was in jail and couldnt do the skits e-40 and mac dre were beefin over a girl..its rumored that the two bay legends funk came when a dude from mac dres neighborhood the country club crest, took 40's girl and 40 beat the dude down fro disrespecting his brother. thats why to this day hillside and crest side dont get along...they each made several diss songs before squashing the beef--the hoods havent. the luniz aint hard but east oakland respects that they went major and still rep the town so they got thier back as stated earlier posts the game isnt welcomed in the bay--bay artists--but his 15 year old fans would show up master p was ran out the bay because he didnt help none of the people that introduced him to the game. or had his back. c-bo is in jail for shootin his baby momma--true fact luniz and too short beef is because too short wouldnt let them be part of the dangerous crew suge knight paid that cat $5000 dollars to assault dr dre at the vibe awards specifically during his lifetime acheivement award segment reason why the diplomats got into the liquor business is because cam bought 3 liquor stores with confessions of fire money, he learned the in & outs & now sizzurp is blowin up cam'rons dad used to be a singer in a old time group, i forgot the name but ive seen the album cover,kinda looks like him ginuine's real name is Elgin Lumpkin the real reason jay-z doesnt like camron is because dame dash gave camron temp ceo position of rocafella at one point while both dame & jay were away on business/vacation, cam was talkin sh*t on radio stations, screamin @ heads who work there like he started the business from the ground up like jay did, he didnt like that. sean paul is not allowed within 100 feet of beyonce or jigga 'cause during the shotting for baby boy,sean paul tried to scoop beyonce by dissin her man sayin somethin alomg the lines of "get wit a cute nigga like you deserve" 50 cent tried the same thing too. 50 cent & ja rule's beef never started be4 they were famous, they didnt even kno each other, real reason's because ja was rollin with his posse one day just after he got famous, saw 50 cent rollin alone (after how to rob) started talkin sh*t so 50 clapped him dead in his eye, this was before ja poked him with a knife ghost face and capodona ran in to one of 50's boys (ZOO) at a block party in staten island d.p from killah army took zoos watch because he was talking to his girl and they stomped him out few monnths later 50 seen ghost at def jam and they exchanged words and then 50 put out that diss track thats how that beef sh*t started pete rock was fu*kin nas' baby momma and nas got wind of this and thats why they dont work together anymore dmx got his chain jacked in toronto on a movie shoot eric b use to do bodyguard work for suge DMX used to rob old ladys for their purses cuz he didnt wanna sell drugs...maybe its true most of his crimes were done with other people... dj premier stopped workin wit jeru the damaja...cuz jeru got pissed when premier was fu*kin his sister... ghostface said on tony's money "this what happens when u dont give niggas they fu*kin money" in response to de la soul for not paying him for the track he was on he also jacked their beat lol superb while in jail supposedly wrote all the rhymes for every ghostface album after ironman...lyin ass nigga... littles jacked alchemist chain at a recording studio? someone got jacked at a soul assasins studio session while gza was their and everyone but gza was forced to strip lol nobodys fu*kin wit the W -Big Pun hit Jay Z over the head with a bottle in a club. ^^ my nigga jayson was there, he cosigns this, this is where the fat joe/hova "animosity" started Jigga was on stage a lil tipsy with the mic and pun and joe came up to rock and hova didnt want to get off.. said some slick sh*t to joey and pun and Pun cracked him with a bottle of bacardi. PUN speaks on it in "100%" if you listen to the lyrics. Don't let the liquor fool you, cause I'll stick it to you Somethin sharp to the heart, or somethin big to move you The Desert or the shottie, whateva you the body that chose to be the dumb nigga at the party Too much Bacardi started speakin dumb Then you tried to snuff Joe - must have been Puerto Rican rum jay-z did snuff fat joe and did get hit wit a bottle after snuffin fat joe, but after gettin hit wit the bottle pun and joe left quick, it was about to be over for dem cuz hov was strapped, then lance got stabbed, jay didnt do it, but he aint no snitch so he copped a plea, to this day fat joe hates jay, "dont even talk about the rucker"- fat joe's team has won at the rucker, jays team didnt show, "im the proud new owner of the nets, no diploma no regrets, dont even talk about no rucker motherfu*ker i am set"-jay-z, fat joe is yet to respond, and if u listen to
the mind right remix jay-z, memphis bleek, h money, and beans, jay is talkin to pun and joe.-just the facts. jay-z told bleek to put "ima ball til i fall wat u think of that" cuz jay told carmen to tell nas, when nas was callin carmen while jay was messin around with her to tell nas that, im with a real baller now. nas took offense and responded, on ready for war- memphis bleek - bleek quips - "ur life style was written (nas relased it was written)/ who u supposed to be play ur position", on is that your chick hov quips - "jus playing the cards chose for me/ jigga man, who u supposed to be?" settin the stages for one of the greatest rap beefs ever. source sound lab, jay-z memphis bleek, and beanie sigel went to record for the dynasty and heard nas was in the studio and went to say wat up, no beef, the bleek beef was recently squashed, Nas snuck out of a back door, - Hov- "where nas went?" and niggas was like, "he heard u was comin and left during the middle of a track." Ol Dirty Bastard and LL Cool J were supposed to work together. Then, when they were in the studio, ODB pissed on one of L's platinum plaques (he was drunk, surprise, surprise) and LL threw him out. Master P tied up and pistol whipped Pimp C after UGK were running around and telling everyone how P didn't pay them for their guest appearances Can someone verify this? I heard Master P was talking smack about the eastcoast or something, and Meth smashed him in the face. Oh, and here's another gem: Mase burned a Wu Tang flag, and Ghost punched him. Rhymesfest battled Eminem before he was famous. Rhymefest won. Puffy got caught gettin' head from a dude(rumors has it that it was Mr.Bentley) ****EDIT somebody else said this,not me Kane & Slick Rick came to blows backstage at the Run's House tour in 88(i think). (Providence RI) Fight lasted about 1 minute before Vance Wright broke it up. Freddie Foxxx was originally gonna be Eric B.'s rapper not Rakim One of those Just Ice murders was for a known Drug Dealer Mc Hammer found out 3rd Bass was coming to Cali, and ordered someone to merk them Outlaws had beef with Capone and Noreaga, but was squashed later Wyclef was close friends with Haitian Jack, the notorius gangster accused of sniching on tupac about the rape case,why? "Tupac blamed Jacques Agnant AKA Haitian Jack for setting him up in the sexual assault trial. Tupac got the maximum penalty while Haitian Jack got 3 months suspended sentence. It was roumoured that Haitian Jack was a Federal informant. pac shouts him out in Makaveli-Against all odds " play that track & he tells the story somebody asked me before who pac had orded a hit on one dude i kno Stretch of the Live Squad Tupac fell out with Stretch after the robbing & shooting at the recording studio because he became close to Badboy going to Biggies concerts. Stretch was murdered execution style in Jamaica one year to the day after the Tupac shooting. -According to Marley Marl, him and Cormega had already finished a whole album ready for release before Nas was due to release illmatic. It eventually fell through as Mega was sent to jail. - Das EFX stole their iggedy style from UK hiphop outfit Demon Boyz while on tour with EPMD. -Fritz(that nigga back in the day) used to sell bricks to Alpo, AZ, Rich Porter, Boy George, Tony Montana (Fat Joe's boy) and them. in other words, he supplied the dealers -reason why curtis jackson took 50 cents name was because the real 50 cent had major beef wit supremes team & had em shook during his prime -Masta Killa was the last member to join Wu -Biggie did a 9 month bid in North Carolina -Eric B had Large Professor beaten down on one occasion for Xtra P talking sh!t about not getting production credits and because he thought he was gettin' at him on "snake eyes". p Diddy was a back up dancer for Kane & heavy d sometimes Russell and Puffy had a fall-out due to an argument that Puff & Kimora had at a club. (it got real ugly) YZ puts hands on treach so Treach boys jumped him. Yz then went for a chainsaw. Treach (naught by nature)has done Porn movies and is Pepas (salt n pepa)babydaddy memphis bleek is not fake as everybody thinks, he actually sold drugs, he was actually pushin weight when he met jay, before the rap sh*t started poppin off jay made him stop because he was only 15, bleeks boy got gunned down over a dice game and bleek adopted his daughter. In bedstuy and bushwick, big and jay had some famous battles in the street, and in their high school, big always said jay won because jay rapped to fast, jay also battled busta in their high school, lil kim also attended that school. Before reasonable doubt, Jay-Z and Jaz-O ran into LL cool J at a club, LL recognized Jaz and they spoke, Jay approached and asked to battle, LL didnt back down, Jay won the friendly battle, thats why LL to this day never takes offense when jay calls himself the best rapper alive, or best rapper dead or alive, when LL claims goat. Nas is not really welcomed back in Queensbridge. The reason i dont feel nas music, NAs witnessed his brother (ILL WILL)get gunned down and aint do sh*t. Nas also, never sold drugs, if u watch the Driven on VH1 jungle says he did, it was a front, nas used to get robbed, and picked on, the real reason he dropped outta high school. Nas also got robbed at one of his video shoots, and had to buy back his chain. ooooooooooooooooooooh hahahahahahahhaha My favorite rapper of the moment, Joe Budden was put on anti depressants, was addicted to angel dust, was stabbed by his babys mother, locked up numerous times, nigga named joshua tried to kill him twice, pulled the gun twice, gun jamed twice, joe budden was in his hummer and they beat joshua down then took him to the precint. Joe budden owns numerous cars, including a hummer, and ferrari, but chooses to drive his 93 toyota corolla wit factory rims. Joe budden is not broke as many niggas think, he doesnt make any money off of album sales, but he is probably the smartest rapper around right now, he owns his publishing, which means millions of pump it up dollars. Most of Wu Tang used to be angel-dust heads. U-God has beef with the Rza over Money Biggie was not the playa he claimed to be, he never started gettin women until he got money, his bm looks like a man. Song Cry was a real song about Jay-Z's longtime girlfriend Trick Daddy was jumped and got his chain snatched at a show in Detroit for dissing Trick Trick a local Detroit rapper cause he thought he stole his name. Jay-Z doesen't own his publishing for Reasonable Doubt, but tries to diss Nas for not gettin paid when he sampled his voice from Illmatic. 2pac had relationships with a few celebrities on the low, Jada Pinkett and Quincy Jones's daughter to name some. Ice Cube isint from Compton and went to a college in Arizona, he was never a gangsta. Xzibit is from Alberquerque, New Mexico. Scarface tried to commit suicide when he was younger. Three 6 Mafia used to be called Triple Six Mafia and made songs about worshipping the devil, but were forced to change their name when they signed to Reletivity. -B.I.G. had some of his dudes run up in D&D studios and beat down Starang Wondah then had them put the phone to his ear while B.I.G. proceeded to tell him never to fu*k with him again. This was in retaliation for OGC's first video where they had a fake Biggie get beat down. Starang admitted it on Heltah Skeltah's "I Ain't Havin That" "like when i was up in D&D i caught 2 or 3 stitches / i was still gettin bi*ch
es at the tunnel takin pictures" more jacked shit --------------------------------------------------------- The people behind Murder INC actually held weight when PIF posse was running things AZ supposedly fu*ked lil kim & foxy brown, tupac was known to be boning jada pinkett & quincy jones daughter game claims he caught his 1st body on march 4 1994 its rumored that fat joe personally buck fifty'ed cuban link fat joe writes 25% of his lyrics he has a team of ghostwriters lloyd banks isnt 21, he's 29!! the beef connection::::: Jay Z and Nas had a battle. Nas dissed Angie Martinez who is on Jay's dikk. Angie Martinez is an unofficial member of the Terror Squad who is headed by Fat Joe who has worked with Nas many times. Fat Joe has been throwing subliminals at Jay Z throughout his whole career. There were claims that Big Pun smashed Jay over the head with a bottle. When Big Pun died Fat Joe 150ed Cuban Linx. The only person that helped Cuban was Remy who recently battled Lady Luck. Lady Luck has worked with Ali Vegas alot who has took shots at Clue & Desert Storm. Stack Bundles who is on DS has been dissing 50 Cent & Ali Vegas in recent freestyles. Joe Budden who is also down with Desert Storm has been dissing 50 Cent and G Unit who is home of The Game. The Game recorded a track with Stack Bundles where this all started. Joe Budden's freestyle over Where Im From was connected to Beanie Sigel's & Jim Jones freestyle over the same beat. Jim Jones has "tied his flat in a knot" with Game. The Game has some type of beef with Memphis Bleek who is part of the ROC team just as Jim Jones. The Game recorded the Certified Gangsta remix with Lil Flip. Camron and Memphis Bleek both worked with TI who now has beef with Lil Flip. Lil Flip was on Ludacris's album and they both claim to have beef with TI. TI has worked with 8 Ball & MJG and were in their last video along with Ludacris. ghostface has been shot 3 times but never brags about it like other known fags in the rap industry -cappadonna tried to sell me fitteds and tims out the trunk of his mans black s500 on south beach this year lmao noooo lie niggas i put it on my family ..... and loyd banks is like 22-23 my nigga from the same hood -i heard also fab fu*ked up ali vegas up on a one on one same with stack bundles did vic damone -i heard that ali helpd smurf get outta jail -trick daddy used to smoke danks(coke n cripy) for years -fat joe got knocked the fu*k out @ mansion by sum zoe pound niggas joe tried.. KRS One has released 14 albums over his career Ali Vegas and Lamar Odom are relatives Ghostface was shot while out of town Xzibit is from Detroit, Michigan (niggaz was sayin' he was from Jersey) Starang Wondah (of OGC) was thrown off stage by Biggie & company? Nas saw his first tec/gun on tour with Xtra P when Jigga pulled it out DMX was born in Baltimore, Maryland Clipse were born in the BX Jungle use to manage such rappers as Nore Canibus was stole on by Blinky Blink at his album release party Oschino was shot 9 nine times Big Noyd served time for attempted murder Littles did a 4-5 year bid Mystikal's sister was killed by boyfriend which was a rapper from UNLV Juelz Santana was in a rap duo called Draft Pick with stickman Malik Wyclef was bumped by the feds and taken to DC? Prodigy of Mobb Deep was found in Detroit when he was kidnapped by father? Ghostface is a vegetarian? Ol' Dirty was charged with attempted murder when he shot at NYPD. joe budden also spent time in a mental institution when he was 15-16 for depression Jay-z was supposed to be on the third verse of ashantis foolish, irv instead made ashanti write another verse in order to "develop his artist" jay-z was going to sign 50 cent to rocafella but declined after speaking to his good friend irv gotti, then gotti turned around and tried to sign Nas. Jay said if nas was on murder inc he goes from being the boss of ill will to another ashanti. Nas then refused to sign. AZ many times, was very close to signing to rocafella Cormega, was a signature away from reppin the roc. Joe Budden was on rocafella before dame went, but did not want to have to choose between dame and jay so he just tore up the rocafella contract and stood under his old def jam contract. State Property, the group, did not know each other from a hole in a wall before SP, dame and jay jus took everyone from philadelphia under rocafella and made a collective, basically the Rocs version of making the band. Bleek recorded verses and songs wit beans for the b.coming, Dame did not want them on there, but put a two year old jay song which was on the state property two album. Dame also kept bleek off of the young guns first solo, juelz, the diplomats, and most of the paid in full contract, bleek called it "a conspiracy to get bleek off of the roc" Welcome to NY was supposed to be camrons second single, Cam refused to shoot the video after jay vetoed cams VP position, probably costing cam another million in record sales. Reasonable Doubt was the only Jay-Z album realesed under Priority/Rocafella, The collective- Jay, Dame and Biggs own the rights. Jay offered dame dash rocafella if he would just give him 100 percent rights to reasonable doubt, dame refuse, as a result def jam bought rocafella, gave jay-z presidency position, gave him the publishing to every other jay-z album (besides RD) and gave him 100% of Rocafella. The track in which jay disses mase, saying "im rolling wit rocafella, they gettin money man" is d-dot, bad boys #1 producer at the time. No one on bad boy was behind mase on his beef wit jay, thats why he never realeased his diss track. Beanie Sigel and Memphis Bleek were recording an album together called "From My Hood To Your Hood" when Bleeks brother "dre" was in a near fatal accident, bleek dissapeared from rap for a while getting his brother the best medical treatment in the country and keeping his mother away from it so she wont be hurt by her sons pain, sending her on vacations from miami to san tropez. The Commision- Big, Jay-Z, and Charlie Baltimore was set to hit the streets when big died, RIP Murder Inc. - A group featuring Jay-Z, DMX, and Ja Rule was supposed to come out when DMX and Ja Rule had a fallout Triangle Offense- Joe Budden, Fabolous, and Paul Cain, the album would have came out if joe buddens debut album went platinum, but it didnt so the label didnt feel need to further explore the potential of that group. Styles P. was only dissing rocafella and Jay-Z during the Beans and Jada beef in order to push jadas album kiss the game goodbye, when styels came out of prison he said he wished he could take it all back and do resoviour dogs part 2 wit "my niggas at the roc" Sauce Money won a grammy for writing P.diddys verse on Every Breathe u take the BIG tribute. Run up on LOON, he will fu*k u up. Jay was real close to coming to blows wit sean paul at a club, but it didnt come to that as sean paul was afraid. " the gat that i clutch got a lil red light, NEED A LIGHT??" BIG L was rocafella when he died. RIP
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  • Freddie Foxxx was originally gonna be Eric B.'s rapper not Rakim




    Unless Freddie was making beats, rhyming and scratching, how would this play out


  • Freddie Foxxx was originally gonna be Eric B.'s rapper not Rakim

    Unless Freddie was making beats, rhyming and scratching, how would this play out

    ...damn that doesn't bare thinking about.

    they would have been one duo though.

    RD

  • Phill_MostPhill_Most 4,594 Posts
    Freddie Foxxx was originally gonna be Eric B.'s rapper not Rakim

    Unless Freddie was making beats, rhyming and scratching, how would this play out

    I know what you mean... but that is true, that whole story has been well documented already.

    From what I've heard, a lot of the rumours on this list are very true (or at least I know I've heard them before from various credible people... who really knows, though).

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    jay also battled busta in their high school,

    Nah man, Busta went to high school on Long Island at Uniondale and BOCES. BOCES is the specialized school for talented kids, and Busta (Tahiem) was in classes with my tattoo artist.

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts


    -Johnny Juice did all Terminator X's cuts on the Public Enemy albums.

    -Q Tip got fuked up so bad by one of the members of Wrexx N Effect that he lost partial sight in one of his eyes.

    -Grandmaster Caz wrote Rappers Delight.

    -Pharrel use to carry records around for Teddy Riley.

    -Benzino forced Mays to give him part ownership of the source.

    -Rakim was still in high school when paid in full dropped.

    -Kanye West produced some of THE best hits for bad boy back in the day and Deric D-Dot Angeletti was taking all the credit for production because kanye was under him-i heard this many times

    -Mc Hammer found out 3rd Bass was coming to Cali, and ordered someone to merk them

    -P Diddy was a back up dancer for heavy d

    Treach (naught by nature)has done Porn movies and is Pepas (salt n pepa)babydaddy

    State Property, the group, did not know each other from a hole in a wall before SP, dame and jay jus took everyone from philadelphia under rocafella and made a collective, basically the Rocs version of making the band.

    These are all pretty much common knowledge.



    Freddie Foxxx was originally gonna be Eric B.'s rapper not Rakim


    Supposedly "Eric B. Is President" was made (by Marley Marl) for Freddy Foxxx to rhyme on but he never showed up to the recording session.

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    on "paid in full" and "follow the leader".

    -Rakim recorded a dis cut aimed at 'Kane for "let the rhythm hit 'em" and had a verse on the title track itself aimed at him. 'Kane heard about this and called Rakim to squash it and Rakim went on to scrap the track and remove the verse.
    if that track exists i gotta hear it yesterday.


  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    for reals. This could have been the greatest lyrical battle ever

  • dayday 9,612 Posts
    ginuine's real name is Elgin Lumpkin


  • I've heard many of these rumors for a minute, including the Freddy Foxx one.. Some I don't know about. When did people think Xzibit was from Jersey? I thought everybody always knew he Michigonian, or at least mistaken him as an L.A. native.

    BDB jacking Marley Marl's drum samples is commonly known as well. I guess he left the disk in the studio and Red Alert grabbed them. I may be wrong.

    I'd like to hear more about 50 getten shook by the WU. I bet a lot of that list is bullshit.

    Good read.

  • jay also battled busta in their high school,

    Nah man, Busta went to high school on Long Island at Uniondale and BOCES. BOCES is the specialized school for talented kids, and Busta (Tahiem) was in classes with my tattoo artist.

    My friend used to get merked by them (LONS) in high school. I'll ask him if he knows about it.

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    When did people think Xzibit was from Jersey? I thought everybody always knew he Michigonian, or at least mistaken him as an L.A. native.



    I thought he was one of those new mexicans

  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    Eddie Murphy lets Johnny gill sleep in his bathhouse to this day because he's broke



    "Phuck yo bath house *****"

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    Eddie Murphy lets Johnny gill sleep in his bathhouse to this day because he's broke



    "Phuck yo bath house *****"
    i thought it was because they flossed each other's d*cks.

  • izm707izm707 1,107 Posts
    About Joe Budden and his everyday car, here's what he was driving last month in N.Y. when i met dude (no frontin' )







    About Kanye West producing some of THE best hits for bad boy back in the day, ok...It's not possible at least for the drums. He never have that sound and lost it or changed it. He simply can't do bangin drums like D-Dot. And also, the BEST rumor is from Chicago. That dude Icedrake supposedly found that kanye trademark sound and Kanye ran away with it. I met Rhymefest and forgot to ask him...lol. The thing is when you listen back to that Lil Kim beat he did in 2003, it's very very very

  • Freddie Foxxx went to Landspeed records like 200 deep in order to get the money they owed him.

    on the real, bumpy has sonned many industry n****s over the years. from what i'm told he is not one to be fucked with.






  • izm707izm707 1,107 Posts
    massive co-zing...he earned his bumpy knucles nickname.
    holla tonite...ill be there B**T.

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    Alot of these are true from people I talked to. Talking with T-LaRock he also supports the Erc B./Freddie Foxx/Rakim rumor as well as the fact that Eric B. was the most god awful DJ. T was at one of the sessions and Eric B. was cutting for hours trying to get shit right, and never managed to do it. T wanted to step in but Rakim told him no.

    Also I always thought Xzbit was from New Mexico?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    jay also battled busta in their high school,

    Nah man, Busta went to high school on Long Island at Uniondale and BOCES. BOCES is the specialized school for talented kids, and Busta (Tahiem) was in classes with my tattoo artist.

    I read a Busta interview where this was confirmed. Jay-Z won w/ the fastrap.

  • Also I always thought Xzbit was from New Mexico?

    Alvin Joiner AKA Xzibit was born in Detroit and lived there until age 10. His mother passed and then this pop moved to Albuquerque with a new wife. X lived in Albuquerque from about 10 yrs old to 17 yrs old. He went to middle school and high school there. Albuquerque is where X first started rapping. His first crew was called Smalltown/Desert Land. His first performance was at a show in Albuquerque called Rap Fest. His first recorded material is from the Smalltown days. His sister and father still live in Albuquerque and X spends his holidays in there.

    side fact- X was raised as a Jehova's Witness.

    (yeah- I'm also from Albuquerque, now in L.A.)

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    jay also battled busta in their high school,
    Nah man, Busta went to high school on Long Island at Uniondale and BOCES. BOCES is the specialized school for talented kids, and Busta (Tahiem) was in classes with my tattoo artist.
    I read a Busta interview where this was confirmed. Jay-Z won w/ the fastrap

    Maybe Busta went to brooklyn to battle Jay-Z in Jay's high school, but TRUST ME, any Long Island hip hop fan is laughing at Busta if he's trying to claim he's from Brooklyn only. He went to Uniondale High School, there are a thousand heads out here who can confirm that. Anyone you meet from Uniondale who's around that age has a Busta story.


    Easy google

    Busta Rhymes has attributed his celebratory rapping style to his childhood in Uniondale. ``That Long Island environment was some fresh-air type --- that gives you room to be who you are and want to be without all those urban hangups,'' Rhymes was quoted as saying two years ago. `` . . . There was no unhappiness in our lives, so we were comfortable, cozy . . . We were able to focus on hip-hop on a fun level.'


    and from MTV.com's Busta biography:

    Born in East Flatbush, Brooklyn, in 1972 of Jamaican heritage (a definite influence on his rapping style), Busta moved to Long Island in 1983 and, at Uniondale High School, met up with MCs Charlie Brown, Dinco D., and Cut Monitor Milo. Inspired by fellow Long Islanders Public Enemy and Eric B. & Rakim



  • Phill_MostPhill_Most 4,594 Posts
    He might've just lived back in Brooklyn or went to high school there for a little while, sween. I've heard that story before, too, straight from either Busta or Jay-Z or maybe both in interviews. Busta, Jay and Big all suppossedly went to HS together at the same time.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    This has gotta be the most preposterous one:

    "I got a story to tell" was vaguelly based on a real life incident Biggie had when he was slipping pipe to John Starks' woman.

  • BlightyBlighty 225 Posts
    Mc Hammer found out 3rd Bass was coming to Cali, and ordered someone to merk them

    Serch goes into great detail on that one in his interview with the P Brothers over at the Heavy Bronx website.

    http://www.heavybronx.com/interviews.htm

  • djdazedjdaze 3,099 Posts
    Also I always thought Xzbit was from New Mexico?

    Alvin Joiner AKA Xzibit was born in Detroit and lived there until age 10. His mother passed and then this pop moved to Albuquerque with a new wife. X lived in Albuquerque from about 10 yrs old to 17 yrs old. He went to middle school and high school there. Albuquerque is where X first started rapping. His first crew was called Smalltown/Desert Land. His first performance was at a show in Albuquerque called Rap Fest. His first recorded material is from the Smalltown days. His sister and father still live in Albuquerque and X spends his holidays in there.

    side fact- X was raised as a Jehova's Witness.

    (yeah- I'm also from Albuquerque, now in L.A.)


    Truth, I used to DJ for a guy in Smalltown named JLT. We performed at Rap Fest back when Xzibit was called Exhibit A...dude was wearing an oversized T-shirt with Richie Rich faces all over it.

  • He might've just lived back in Brooklyn or went to high school there for a little while, sween. I've heard that story before, too, straight from either Busta or Jay-Z or maybe both in interviews. Busta, Jay and Big all suppossedly went to HS together at the same time.


    Phill, Busta's story has changed umpteen times at this point. I don't doubt the battle but I do doubt the spending a lot of time in BK. Dude said he used to sneak back there because his fam didn't want him getting caught up. Around LONS time I recall him saying he was moved out to LI around the age of 10. I'm not inclined to believe a damn thing about him because back then he was a houser and now he talks about copping on New Lots Ave (THAT REAL SHIT) and selling bricks of coke. This kind of lifestyle has been refuted by NUMEROUS people.



    [color:white] he is also gay or bisexual[/color]




    IZM707 - Dude, D-Dot didn't produce much of that shit at all. As for his patented drum sound, it might not be Kanye but it certainly wasn't D-Dot. His partner Amen-Ra is supposedly for real though.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,913 Posts
    Alot of these are true from people I talked to. Talking with T-LaRock he also supports the Erc B./Freddie Foxx/Rakim rumor as well as the fact that Eric B. was the most god awful DJ. T was at one of the sessions and Eric B. was cutting for hours trying to get shit right, and never managed to do it. T wanted to step in but Rakim told him no.

    The story I heard about Eric B was that he went to Marley Marl with a ton of cash (Alpo, Fritz and 50 Cent on the back of his album sleeve? You work it out), and basically said, make me a rap star or else. He couldn't rap, so it was suggested that he become a DJ. He couldn't DJ either. So it was suggested he might stand at the back and pretend to DJ, while someone else rhymed. Freddie Foxxx never showed for the session, and the rest is history.

    My favourite out of all those is the one about Nate Dogg sticking up a bunch of Taco Bells.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Its embarassing to admit, but I actually live for shit like this!


    Nice thread. My favorite is Lloyd banks being 29. Makes sense.



  • izm707izm707 1,107 Posts
    Dude, D-Dot didn't produce much of that shit at all. As for his patented drum sound, it might not be Kanye but it certainly wasn't D-Dot. His partner Amen-Ra is supposedly for real though.

    Should i say Amen to that...coz you're totally right. I forgot about him...






    PS : i was in N.Y. last month but i was so much in a rush that i didnt hit your store. I wish to do so in December, so let me know where it's at.

  • chasechase 767 Posts
    BOCES is the specialized school for talented kids,

    that made me LOL, BOCES is for teenage moms, and kids who get kicked out of school etc. most often called bo-tards

  • TheMackTheMack 3,414 Posts

    Three 6 Mafia used to be called Triple Six Mafia and made songs about worshipping the devil, but were forced to change their name when they signed to Reletivity.


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