I'm pretty sure the internal politics of our country don't really enter into the illegals in Calais' decision much at all. You can't go around the world selling democracy and the free market and then act surprised when people in poor countries (in and out of the EU) want to move to richer countries. Unless the Brexit dream is to bring us down to such shitty a level that Euroman will no longer see any benefit in coming here, they will continue to want to come here for a better life. Germany take in a third more immigrants than we do but the UK is second on the list, then France. The same order as our respective GDPs. But both Germany & the UK have rapidly aging populations and, in absence of a cull through war or superbug, are going to need millions of new working age immigrants to keep their countries going. The UK will need about 2 miilion or so by 2030. So, I'm really not sure who's saying EU is a better bet than UK or what metric that could be pertaining to. Sounds like some kind of sophism set up tbh.
It was kind of cool that I could live, for as long as I wanted, in any of the member states and no-one could say JACK about it. Not Romanian gypsy colonies, natch. The nice bits of EU.
I've never been but I hear Romania is pretty beautiful, a pint is only a pound and the women are most easy on the eye. it's an idyllic place for a mountain biking.
Granted, prolly no one uttered those lines verbatim, but the clear narrative message I heard was, it's better to be in than out. And if that relates at a country level, then surely also at an individual one too. But so many act in the opposite way by wanting to come here.
Burqini: them lovable, super tolerant frenchies eh? On the other hand, you have to draw a line somewhere at tolerating importation of customs. Top of head stuff: sharia law, FGM, shonky bushmeat. Covering up at the beach is some 1930s uptight old Brit thing. Unfathomable in 2016 if only for suntan reasons.
..the clear narrative message I heard was, it's better to be in than out. And if that relates at a country level, then surely also at an individual one too.
Again this seems like a fallacy. There are many reasons to believe we were/are better off as part of the EU, most of which have absolutely no bearing on an immigrant's choice of destination or a country's need for immigrants.
Burqini: them lovable, super tolerant frenchies eh?
On the other hand, you have to draw a line somewhere at tolerating importation of customs. Top of head stuff: sharia law, FGM, shonky bushmeat. Covering up at the beach is some 1930s uptight old Brit thing. Unfathomable in 2016 if only for suntan reasons.
i find it more unfathomable that people get forced to undress at the beach. that is not drawing a line against sharia. that's fucking with ordinary muslims who only want to enjoy the beach. who has decided you need to sunbath to enjoy the beach? it's forcing people to act more like you because it makes you feel better, it's an enormous invasion of privacy.
Banning the face veil, fine. Burqini though, seems ridiculous telling people they have to get undressed and I can only see reprisal attacks down the line.
There was a Hislamist (sic) at our pool in Spain wearing one. It really is a silly idea for swimming. I understand their book says you must cover up or you get rhaped, but really, there was none of that going on with the bikini-clad Eurowomanz. I am sure at the pearly gates, St. P is not turning folls back... "Ah you were a lifeguard that saved x amount of folls, good for you. BUT... You had that Pam Anderson thing going on. Sorry... BAN."
Needless to say Mr Hislamist was in suitable attire, as were the kids.
That face-covering stuff is scary. Folls only wear masks when they are up to no good. That's inbuilt in all of us.
All that clobber just means I can't tell if they got nice arse, cute boobs or shapely leg tho. So for that reason I'm against it. On the other hand, I'd make it mandatory for sweaty bingo wing n tatts slosher on the beach at Sarfend, narmean?
Just for the sake of clarity, let's get some answers down on burkinigate.
Mandating what women can or cannot wear is sexist? Muslim men requiring women to cover up is sexist? Adhering to centuries-old religion-inspired dogma is fine? Belonging to a EU where one of the driving forces introduces this ban is desirable?
My answers are yes, yes, no and no. Particularly on the last point, seem to recall that enforced stripping on the basis of race and religion was last practiced in Europe by <<Godwins alert>>>. It might be a slippery slope.
I see the deputy mayor of Nice says he'd apply the rule to a nun as well. I think any form of clothing overtly tied so closely to religion is highly naff, but if people want to dress up it's up to them. I wouldn't be averse to a bit of sexy witch cos-play, it must be said. Or even naughty nun. Or veiled harem games.
I don't do sandals. My feet are akin to those of a hobbit. But pastier. No-one wants to see that. It's like American Werewolf in EU46.
Our climate dictates anything sandal-like is silly outside of our one-week summer window. I admit to being jelly of your climateways and low sock-maintenance costs, but have somehow reconciled that living in the UK is a good idea for me.
Gents, what say you on Wet Spam's OS travails? Teething troubles that will be ironed out (see what I etc) or the death of a formerly respected proper football club which has had its soul sold down the river by rapacious profit hunting dildo salesmen turning it into a half n half scarf tourist experience with polite applause and 'siddaaaahn'?
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Germany take in a third more immigrants than we do but the UK is second on the list, then France. The same order as our respective GDPs. But both Germany & the UK have rapidly aging populations and, in absence of a cull through war or superbug, are going to need millions of new working age immigrants to keep their countries going. The UK will need about 2 miilion or so by 2030. So, I'm really not sure who's saying EU is a better bet than UK or what metric that could be pertaining to. Sounds like some kind of sophism set up tbh.
the women are most easy on the eye.it's an idyllic place for a mountain biking.But so many act in the opposite way by wanting to come here.
Burqini: them lovable, super tolerant frenchies eh?
On the other hand, you have to draw a line somewhere at tolerating importation of customs. Top of head stuff: sharia law, FGM, shonky bushmeat.
Covering up at the beach is some 1930s uptight old Brit thing. Unfathomable in 2016 if only for suntan reasons.
Needless to say Mr Hislamist was in suitable attire, as were the kids.
That face-covering stuff is scary. Folls only wear masks when they are up to no good. That's inbuilt in all of us.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Health_Effects_of_Islamic_Dress
(see how I saved your eyes from a massive paste poast. You are welcome.)
On the other hand, I'd make it mandatory for sweaty bingo wing n tatts slosher on the beach at Sarfend, narmean?
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They take their secularism pretty seriously in France. Shit just becomes a weapon to beat people with like everything else unfortunately.
Not on some 70s floaty chiffon negligee tip, but real-deal transparent full on plastic fetish thing.
Everyone is a winner.
b//w
I guess there is hope for peace in our time.
Mandating what women can or cannot wear is sexist?
Muslim men requiring women to cover up is sexist?
Adhering to centuries-old religion-inspired dogma is fine?
Belonging to a EU where one of the driving forces introduces this ban is desirable?
My answers are yes, yes, no and no.
Particularly on the last point, seem to recall that enforced stripping on the basis of race and religion was last practiced in Europe by <<Godwins alert>>>. It might be a slippery slope.
I see the deputy mayor of Nice says he'd apply the rule to a nun as well.
I think any form of clothing overtly tied so closely to religion is highly naff, but if people want to dress up it's up to them.
I wouldn't be averse to a bit of sexy witch cos-play, it must be said. Or even naughty nun. Or veiled harem games.
::rubs thighs with tongue out::
Perhaps too conflicted over the various strands of outrage and moral liberal hazard.
Talk was of the "No man should tell a woman what she can/can't wear"-and-such nature.
Except the man who wroat their book?
The whole thing is a reed that is not bending in the wind of change.
Our climate dictates anything sandal-like is silly outside of our one-week summer window. I admit to being jelly of your climateways and low sock-maintenance costs, but have somehow reconciled that living in the UK is a good idea for me.
I know.
Thank you.
Didn't watch but read that it was a tidy performance from Citeh.
If you listen carefully, you can hear Joe Hart laughing from Italy.
Teething troubles that will be ironed out (see what I etc) or the death of a formerly respected proper football club which has had its soul sold down the river by rapacious profit hunting dildo salesmen turning it into a half n half scarf tourist experience with polite applause and 'siddaaaahn'?
PRAWN SARNIES FOR EVERYONE.
They riled Watford with their Johnny Foreigner YouTube Salesman tricks and were found to have written cheques that their bellies could not cash.
Someone will have Payet in the January Xfer window if they are hanging out the arse of the table like a non-negotiable turtle's head.
Then it will be