The Messi pen-not-pen was 50-50 and I bet the ref decided to even things up by ignoring it. Apparently a dust-up in the tunnel after Arteta said to Messi "What are you waiting for? Go get changed idiot"
I'd add Fury v Klitschko to the recent mix in that regard. Sitting in the overwhelmingly pro-Klitschko crowd I could actually feel the moment the realisation kicked in among the supporters that he really had nothing to trouble Fury. A strangely confused hush came over the crowd and not just because the fight itself was limp.
Props to Citeh, it was a really entertaining match - I think they deserved it and was good fun to see Barca capitulate. On a more cynical level, it does take something away from the magic of the occasion when the team that beats them bought in their ex-manager and some of the most expensive players in the world to do it. They're hardly traditional underdogs or even plucky challengers in the shade of Arsenal. To me it's more of a question of "what took so long?".
Additional props for the freeflowing similes in your post Duder.
Not wanting to clog up the Trump thread with any more Brexit talk, but I am interested Skel, in what you see happening next - your position on Brexit seems neither here nor there, but you have been vocal in condemning the Left/meeja/intellectual snob reaction, so I ask again, what should that section of society do if things pan out as they predicted? And what do you think is going to happen? Theresa May trying to invoke some medieval prerogative law makes me wonder why Corbyn doesn't try and get Trial By Combat up and running again. She has given the Remain camp their best material since the result with the hypocrisy of challenging the High Court ruling, and nothing that's happened since she's taken the job suggests she has the foggiest about how to handle this. Is it all a [Baldrick]cunning plan[/Baldrick] to make such a pig's ear of the job that an early General Election leads to calling the whole thing off?
I distrust the views of those who profess to know what the future will be. At best, they are misguided or inexperienced in life. At worst they are arrogant, conceited and deluded egotists. So I cannot opine on what will, won't, should, shouldn't. Only on could and couldn't.
That said, there are a number of certainties. Chiefly, the euro is fundamentally flawed, and ultimately doomed in its current guise. Free and uncontrolled movement of people likewise. At some point, millions of people WILL turn up at another border. Third, almost all people just want a better world, and to see progress in their lives and those of their children. Yes, even far right politicians.
It matters not whether experts or the qualified say their stuff, and whether it is correct or not. What matters is ONLY how voters perceive the world. Right now, experts are viewed with suspicion, even hostility. So: let's stop telling people how stupid they are to ignore the experts. It might make you feel clever and superior, but in the end the people didn't buy it.
In Brexit, what they bought was the idea that their lives could change for the better. Because no expert can sell the idea that what you got is good enough, or vote 'in' else things get worse.
And for those in the few days after the result, gloom and doom because stock markets tumbled in 'see I told you so' mode, well those same markets are now above pre-Brexit levels in most cases, but the doom-Sayers don't mention that, eh? And either way, did you Duder feel any impact on your life? I'm guessing not.
Looking for the opportunity in these events has to be a more life-enhancing route than wallowing in the threat.
Generally, life has progressed in a three steps forward, two back kind of way throughout our evolution. Sure, one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such. Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe. So chill!
I agree that the Brexit and Trump results are the consequence of a lot of people being unhappy with the status quo and lobbing a brick through the window. "More of the same" has worn thin and they are looking for some quick fixes.
I still think they are morons because morons are cheering the loudest. It seems to validate a more [insert here]-ophobic mentality. And that's why I think these events are a step backwards. They lobbed the brick, but what concrete good ideas are they going to put in place?
I don't see any quick fixes when the banks run tings, but people sure do love deyselves the illusion of choice.
tl;dr : I WELCOME MR PEW-TEENS APOCALYPTIC EMBRACE
You may well think they are morons, but they won the democratic day.
It is not incumbent on them to say now how it will advance, it is incumbent on those who voted opposite to decide how to turn their opinion around.
So far, that seems to amount to saying the people are insert-phobic, or lame protests, or attempting to overturn democratic choices because only they know best. None of these will work. How difficult is this to understand? Jeebus.
one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such. Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe
Trump and his climate change denial crew may very well be that fuck up
one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such. Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe
Trump and his climate change denial crew may very well be that fuck up
Indeed.
(Agent Smith voice)"How can there be fossil fuels...
The Wife and I have been contemplating a trip over? A few words on this upcoming summer have been had. But I was wondering if we should hold out til Article 50 has been triggered to see what happens with the pound.
one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such. Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe
Trump and his climate change denial crew may very well be that fuck up
Indeed.
(Agent Smith voice)"How can there be fossil fuels...
...if there are no fossils?(/asv)
Hey, perhaps you two could join Sobriety in Kerala!
The Wife and I have been contemplating a trip over? A few words on this upcoming summer have been had. But I was wondering if we should hold out til Article 50 has been triggered to see what happens with the pound.
Any thoughts?
How much would you change? A 10% swing either way is relatively marginal, no? 2g becomes 1800 or 2200. Not life changing.
The Wife and I have been contemplating a trip over? A few words on this upcoming summer have been had. But I was wondering if we should hold out til Article 50 has been triggered to see what happens with the pound.
Any thoughts?
How much would you change? A 10% swing either way is relatively marginal, no? 2g becomes 1800 or 2200. Not life changing.
True. 10% ain't all that much. I was more thinking towards total trip costs, so more around £5g's. So $600+ CND is somewhat a savings. But yeah, not something that should decide on holding off another year.
Damn, last time I was in England the rate was around 2.5 GBP/CAD. I was wondering if we would see the rate drop below 1.5 like in 2010.
I thought you had got the band back together. Was waiting for the EP to drop. Peak-era The Jam/Avant NWOBHM/NW/Angst tone and such. Age-inappropriate haircuts (for those not folically challenged). Attempted pogos and matress-assisted stage-diving. But on the other hand, Jazz done right opens the deepest portals for me, so cannot hatt on the new direction. It's all about the chords for me. Instant teleport to somewhere in the mists of time, be the moment terrible or ecstatic. Childcare is the issue for us at the mo, but social life showing the odd green shoots of recovery, as they say.
Last gig was last month at like, a hard Zep/Blues/Thrash mashup that my niece fronts. In Manc. Not my bread-and-butter lane but they do it very well and it was a really good crowd. Real alt-mix. Punks, goths, emos, ironic hair-metallists... and me and the Mrs. Perhaps missing the casual violence of 80s moshes, but kids seem less inclined to get hammered like that, it would appear.
Played the Royal Albert Hall last year so hoping she goes onwards and upwards.
Before that, again Manc, for London girl Natasha Watts mini-tour (see below). Mate was on drums. Richard Earnshaw no less on keys. Before that, JD73 (Dan Goldman, who engineered your boy TOM O / Resolution 88's sets) and his spaced-out Rhodes-stylings. Jose James. Leon Ware. Basically gigs where my mates are in the band and can blag I & I in. Martin Atjazz in Nottingham was good. The boy Roy Ayers is here on the 11th. Although not sure if he can still solo with the same "Clown/Saint/Witchdoctor/Historian" steez of his peak. I'll give it a punt doe.
Tom O been on tour with Incognito of late, depping for the one Matt Cooper (AKA Outside from BITD) but it was all overseas and the only dates in the UK I could feasibly do were on Thursdays which are when the whole fam is up to something here. London on a school night isn't logistically on.
Very cool, Jim. You have fingers on enough pulses. No, the band is still on, productive rehearsals recently at Alaska studios in Waterloo, amidst the ghosts of Bolan, Damned, Pretenders etc. The EP is in planning, it will happen but we do lack a bassist. The real BITD one is a professional grandad now, won't give up that retiree gig of garden centres and off peak supermarket amble to relive the rock n roll yout. Ergo I shall be trawling the axe shops around Denmark Skreet this coming weekend for a functional no-frills four string 'pon which to lay down some root note rudimentary pick (no pluck) stylings in the studio. WE CAN DO THIS
Yes but I want the FREEDOM to rub one out secure in the knowledge that if I get hit by a bus, the ambulance drivers aren't going to be looking through my browsing history on the journey back to the hospital laughing about "...'ere, this one's into three-way donkey porn" and me, only half compos mentis, unable to defend it as merely Cumbia *research*. Or should I be looking for work and the Dept of Work & Pensions are interviewing me about job searches and look over the top of their glasses to note that BDSM is not a career path. It's Big Brother Thought Police.
Don't know why the world hates Dyer so much. Ok he's a pwoppa nawty Hamas supporting mockney bell with a grim Barnet and a muffin top, but there's got to be some good in there, amirite? Said AMIRITE??
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Apparently a dust-up in the tunnel after Arteta said to Messi "What are you waiting for? Go get changed idiot"
Props to Citeh, it was a really entertaining match - I think they deserved it and was good fun to see Barca capitulate. On a more cynical level, it does take something away from the magic of the occasion when the team that beats them bought in their ex-manager and some of the most expensive players in the world to do it. They're hardly traditional underdogs or even plucky challengers in the shade of Arsenal. To me it's more of a question of "what took so long?".
Additional props for the freeflowing similes in your post Duder.
And what do you think is going to happen?
Theresa May trying to invoke some medieval prerogative law makes me wonder why Corbyn doesn't try and get Trial By Combat up and running again. She has given the Remain camp their best material since the result with the hypocrisy of challenging the High Court ruling, and nothing that's happened since she's taken the job suggests she has the foggiest about how to handle this. Is it all a [Baldrick]cunning plan[/Baldrick] to make such a pig's ear of the job that an early General Election leads to calling the whole thing off?
She comes in, gets told to push everything through, alienates everyone and then gets dumped for the Bullingdon boys to ride back in to save the day.
Leaks like the one this morning which included specific jabs at May aren't accidental.
So I cannot opine on what will, won't, should, shouldn't.
Only on could and couldn't.
That said, there are a number of certainties.
Chiefly, the euro is fundamentally flawed, and ultimately doomed in its current guise.
Free and uncontrolled movement of people likewise. At some point, millions of people WILL turn up at another border.
Third, almost all people just want a better world, and to see progress in their lives and those of their children. Yes, even far right politicians.
It matters not whether experts or the qualified say their stuff, and whether it is correct or not.
What matters is ONLY how voters perceive the world. Right now, experts are viewed with suspicion, even hostility.
So: let's stop telling people how stupid they are to ignore the experts. It might make you feel clever and superior, but in the end the people didn't buy it.
In Brexit, what they bought was the idea that their lives could change for the better. Because no expert can sell the idea that what you got is good enough, or vote 'in' else things get worse.
And for those in the few days after the result, gloom and doom because stock markets tumbled in 'see I told you so' mode, well those same markets are now above pre-Brexit levels in most cases, but the doom-Sayers don't mention that, eh?
And either way, did you Duder feel any impact on your life? I'm guessing not.
Looking for the opportunity in these events has to be a more life-enhancing route than wallowing in the threat.
Generally, life has progressed in a three steps forward, two back kind of way throughout our evolution.
Sure, one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such.
Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe. So chill!
I still think they are morons because morons are cheering the loudest. It seems to validate a more [insert here]-ophobic mentality. And that's why I think these events are a step backwards. They lobbed the brick, but what concrete good ideas are they going to put in place?
I don't see any quick fixes when the banks run tings, but people sure do love deyselves the illusion of choice.
tl;dr : I WELCOME MR PEW-TEENS APOCALYPTIC EMBRACE
It is not incumbent on them to say now how it will advance, it is incumbent on those who voted opposite to decide how to turn their opinion around.
So far, that seems to amount to saying the people are insert-phobic, or lame protests, or attempting to overturn democratic choices because only they know best.
None of these will work.
How difficult is this to understand?
Jeebus.
Trump and his climate change denial crew may very well be that fuck up
(Agent Smith voice)"How can there be fossil fuels...
...if there are no fossils?(/asv)
Any thoughts?
2g becomes 1800 or 2200.
Not life changing.
Eff it, life is short.
Damn, last time I was in England the rate was around 2.5 GBP/CAD. I was wondering if we would see the rate drop below 1.5 like in 2010.
Not my scene though. More into cocktails bars with live n discreet jazz these days. Oh yes. Gone all poncey.
Jimster, how you rolling for nights out these days?
Last gig was last month at like, a hard Zep/Blues/Thrash mashup that my niece fronts. In Manc. Not my bread-and-butter lane but they do it very well and it was a really good crowd. Real alt-mix. Punks, goths, emos, ironic hair-metallists... and me and the Mrs. Perhaps missing the casual violence of 80s moshes, but kids seem less inclined to get hammered like that, it would appear.
Played the Royal Albert Hall last year so hoping she goes onwards and upwards.
Before that, again Manc, for London girl Natasha Watts mini-tour (see below). Mate was on drums. Richard Earnshaw no less on keys. Before that, JD73 (Dan Goldman, who engineered your boy TOM O / Resolution 88's sets) and his spaced-out Rhodes-stylings. Jose James. Leon Ware. Basically gigs where my mates are in the band and can blag I & I in. Martin Atjazz in Nottingham was good. The boy Roy Ayers is here on the 11th. Although not sure if he can still solo with the same "Clown/Saint/Witchdoctor/Historian" steez of his peak. I'll give it a punt doe.
Tom O been on tour with Incognito of late, depping for the one Matt Cooper (AKA Outside from BITD) but it was all overseas and the only dates in the UK I could feasibly do were on Thursdays which are when the whole fam is up to something here. London on a school night isn't logistically on.
No, the band is still on, productive rehearsals recently at Alaska studios in Waterloo, amidst the ghosts of Bolan, Damned, Pretenders etc.
The EP is in planning, it will happen but we do lack a bassist.
The real BITD one is a professional grandad now, won't give up that retiree gig of garden centres and off peak supermarket amble to relive the rock n roll yout.
Ergo I shall be trawling the axe shops around Denmark Skreet this coming weekend for a functional no-frills four string 'pon which to lay down some root note rudimentary pick (no pluck) stylings in the studio.
WE CAN DO THIS
Any good Brit comedy shows on tv I'm missing?
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/technology/your-entire-internet-history-to-be-viewable-by-psni-taxman-dwp-and-food-standards-agency-and-other-government-bodies-within-weeks-35242522.html
Thank fuck I brexitted to Spain so I can watch pron in peace.
DIY, son
It's Big Brother Thought Police.
IPVanish FTW.
https://streamable.com/8xa5
Ok he's a pwoppa nawty Hamas supporting mockney bell with a grim Barnet and a muffin top, but there's got to be some good in there, amirite?
Said AMIRITE??
Maybe not then.