Post Punk with funky tinges (recommendation rel.)

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  • check out early essential logic. dueling sax funky skronky fun. the bass playing is REALLY face melty and creative and i love lora logic's warbling vocals is unworldly






    more skronking fun

    i don't understand why you got so mad in this thread guzzo. i don't see what the big hubbub is over rape donkeys posts

    Audrey it was cuz all those records Simon posted are straight punk/noise without any tinge that is fonkay

    Adam wants "the new whiteboy modern soul", whatever that is....






  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    BLURT -
    Post-Punk Jazz Funk

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts


  • check out early essential logic. dueling sax funky skronky fun. the bass playing is REALLY face melty and creative and i love lora logic's warbling vocals is unworldly






    more skronking fun

    i don't understand why you got so mad in this thread guzzo. i don't see what the big hubbub is over rape donkeys posts

    Audrey it was cuz all those records Simon posted are straight punk/noise without any tinge that is fonkay

    uh oh. the stuff i posted IS noisey/abrasive but it's funky in its own way. i hope i didn't ruin this thread and if i did please don't cuss me out Ad*m. ike and tina had pounds and pounds of funk but they were also raw and heavy as fuck.

    ::deep breaths::

    side note - i recently netflicked that punk:attitude doc that adr*an mentioned. it was entertaining and there are a lot of people interviewed that you don't typically see like james chance and glenn branca. it covers a big ass range of people. it seems that all i watch these days are music documentaries. i highly recommend the Ramones: End of the Century documentary - that one is crazy fun especially when they "reminisce" about THE SPECTOR

  • Ina Cosmo Baker styleee





    Just something about you
    The way I'm lookin at you whatever
    You keep lookin at me
    You gettin scared now, right?
    Don't fear me baby, it's just destiny
    It feel good right?
    Listen




    I kind of noticed, from one night
    From the club, your front face
    It's kind of weird to me
    Since you're so fine
    If it's up to me your face will change




    If you smiling, that should set the tone
    Just be limber
    If you let go, the music should groove your bones
    Just remember
    Sing this song with me



    Ain't nobody love you like I love you
    You're a good girl and that's what makes me trust ya
    Late at night, I talk to you
    You will know the difference when I touch you



    People are so phony
    Nosy coz they're lonely
    Aren't you sick of the same thing?
    They say so and so was dating
    Love you or they're hatin
    When it doesn't matter anyway
    Coz we're here tonight




    If you smiling, that should set the tone
    Just be limber baby
    If you let go, the music should groove your bones
    Baby just remember
    Sing this song with me




    Ain't nobody love you like I love you
    You're a good girl and that's what makes me trust ya
    Late at night, I talk to you
    You will know the difference when I touch you



    Yeah, you know I can make ya happy
    I could change your life
    If you give me that chance
    To be your man
    I won't let you down baby
    If you give me that chance
    To be your man
    Here baby, put on my jacket
    And then ...



    Maybe we'll fly tonight (I just wanna love you baby)
    Yeah, yeah, yeah
    Maybe we'll fly tonight (I just wanna love you baby)
    Girl ...






    Ma, what chu wanna do?
    I'm in front of you
    Grab a friend, see I can have fun with two
    Or me and you put on a stage show
    And the mall kids, that's how to change low
    From them you heard "wow, it's the same glow"
    Look at me, I say "yeah, it's the same dough"
    We the same type, you my air of life
    You have sleepin in the same bed, er'night



    Go rock with me, you deserve the best
    Take a few shots
    Let it burn in your chest
    We could ride down
    Pumpin N.E.R.D. in the deck
    Funny how a few words turn into sex
    Play this free, joint called "brain"
    Ma, take a hint
    Make me suerve in the lane
    The name Malicious
    And I burn every track
    Clipse and J. Timberlake
    Now how heavy is that?




    Maybe we'll fly tonight (I just wanna love you baby)
    Yeah, yeah, yeah
    Maybe we'll fly tonight (I just wanna love you baby)
    Girl ...




    Ain't nobody love you like I love you
    You're a good girl and that's what makes me trust ya
    Late at night, I talk to you
    You will know the difference when I touch you



    Break this down



    You know, I used to dream about this when I was a
    little boy
    I never thought it would end up this way, (drums)
    It's kind of special right? yeah
    You know, you think about it
    Sometimes people just destined
    Destined to do what they do
    And that's what it is
    Now everybody dance.

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts


    Adam wants "the new whiteboy modern soul", whatever that is....





    Keep on bringing it.

    BTW X-Ray Specs are so fuckin ill!

  • ElectrodeElectrode Los Angeles 2,944 Posts

    Hey R**n, I dig the Surfers as much as the next dood (well, maybe a lil more). BUT, They did not have beats, they were not no-wave. They were however, a complete anomaly to the punk movement. Bad acid casualties from Texas with an insane cartoonish-nightmare sound. Gibby Haynes' dad was host of a kiddie show for a local TV station, kinda like a Texan version of Captain Kangaroo. This is apparently where Gibby began to form ideas for what would later become the Butthole Surfers. Their live shows were nothing short of legendary. Big screens onstage would project images of godzilla movies mixed with porno, surgery footage, car crashes, cartoons and all sorts of mind melting visual mayhem. They had two drummers who played standing up, topless dancers wearing big snowshoes, Gibby rollin around onstage, playing with fire and singing into a microphone through a megaphone. I remember one time they were throwing confetti out into the crowd. After the show ended and the lights came up, I realized they were xerox images of cockroaches carefully cut out with scissors. I mean, there must have been several thousand of these! They were fucking great!

    Somewhere along the way, they lost whatever it was that made them so freaky and fun and became just plain wack and irrelevant. Nothing left now but the recordings. Check out "Locust Abortion Technician", "Psychic Powerless Another Man's Sac", "Live PCP Pep" w/ the freaky alien child deformed midget on the cover, and "Hairway to Steven" just to name a few....

    Now I definitely have to check out their live show compilation from 20 years ago on DVD! All cued up in my Netflix already. I already have Psychic Powerless... and Locust Abortion Technician (only on CD though). But I see what you're saying...it seems people in the know like to mention the Surfers in the same sentence as bands like Primus, Ween and other hackey-sack rock, or whatever you want to call it. [/i]Electriclarryland[/i] is the only 90s Surfers output I like. I'm not really feeling Gibby's new band, either.



  • MdotSchnipper's grill piece definitely classifies as "funky tinges"

    YOU HAVE TO GET THE SUNNY DAY 7" NOT THE 12" WITH THE STUPID EXTENDED VERSION
    FYI

    where is maximum joy on here omg

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Los Angeles/So. Cal not only had the Minutemen, but they also had a really weird art punk scene that was influential on the Minutemen--and they had some funky, quirky tendencies too.
    Check out THE URINALS (the minutemen covered "ack ack ack ack")
    the forcedexposure website says this about them--

    Now in their 25th year, what better time to reissue this collection of songs that inspired a generation of punk, art-punk, post-punk, and pop-punk bands, from the Minutemen and Gun Club to Yo La Tengo and Butthole Surfers, in addition to newer bands such as The Dishes, The Reds, and ST-37. A 31 song collection featuring such Urinals classics as 'I'm a Bug', 'Black Hole', and 'Ack Ack Ack Ack', in addition to a selection of madcap covers such as the 'Jetson's Theme', and songs by Soft Machine and Roky Erickson. Recordings were made between 1978 and 1980, during the heyday of American punk. Includes the complete Urinals, Another EP, and Sex/Go Away Girl 7-inch material, 3 tunes from long out-of-print compilations, several unreleased studio and rehearsal pieces, and samples from the band's archive of live tapes, including their very first performance as a three-piece."

    also, SAVAGE REPUBLIC
    and anything on the IRIDISCENCE/
    and my favorite band that came from the ashes of The Urinals -- 100 FLOWERS.
    fans of MISSION OF BURMA should check them out. artsy, certainly gang of four influenced but def. in thier own league.
    definitely

  • "germ free adolescents" is really an awesome LP.



    this reminds me (sort of) how i was going to post about alien sex fiend to see what other post punk/80s indie records had 808 drums on them.



    paging bam?




  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    yo--one of you put up a photo of The Dog Faced Hermans.
    If you like The Ex, Gang of Four, The Slits and skronky no-wave--check that out. I think members of that band are in The Ex now.
    Also, I believe the Dogfaced Hermans also had members that were in the dubby/dance instro band SPACEHEADS.
    definitely check into some of those records. They are funky, they are dancy, and they rank right up there with the best of any dance music in my opinion.
    and since this is newer terrain-- check out the very afrobeat and dub influenced DRUMS & TUBA. they are kind of like UI, but fit more into afrobeat meets dub than post-rock/math rock.

  • 'where are they now' related...


    'kundalini' is the funkiest of the lot no contest

    still doin it..

  • yeah, they look like "industrial" records. But who knows, even Throbbing Gristle made an excellent jazz funk lp.


    Great record but...

    No jazz,

    No funk,

    Not even 20 songs.

    Get lifted, dim the lights, and put this "jazz funk" record on. It will seriously ruin your buzz. I love it.

    SONIC

    'hot on the heels of love' is getting there in it's own way, but overall, you are correct on this one for sure

  • p_gunnp_gunn 2,284 Posts


    yo, this record rules, but it's about as funky as Wilco... it's a great punk rock/america album (the leadbelly cover is next level), but that Merzbow record Donkeys posted may be "funkier" than this.

  • p_gunnp_gunn 2,284 Posts


    this reminds me (sort of) how i was going to post about alien sex fiend to see what other post punk/80s indie records had 808 drums on them.


    i'll start with an obvious one "this is england"- the clash

  • 20 Jazz Funk Greats is conceptually perfect from the design to the music to Cosey's long long long legs and socks/platforms combo. Bonus hamburger for the abandoned landrover on the back. I bought that record in high school and instantly felt like I'd just molested a child.

    WORD!


    Dubious, I own (and enjoy) most of the records you posted. Hear, hear. But I just have to call out this Orange Juice record as complete piece of lightweight twee pop crap. NEXT.



  • parsecparsec 5,087 Posts


    Delta 5

  • another artist to check if you can find any of his stuff. crazy australian new wave with wild synths. the album "the vorpal blade" in particular is one of my early 80's faves. he used to sell them directly and may have some left.


  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
    Hey, Guzzo

    Check this one






    and his other stuff with The Blacks.

    I like this one better:


    ...and no one's mentioned PIL yet? Or are we totally over the inobscure acts?

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts


    ...and no one's mentioned PIL yet? Or are we totally over the inobscure acts?

    inobscure or not I'd love the recommendations. I didn't even own a non rap/ R&B album until I was 18 years old. I'm seriously a little dude when it comes to this type of music

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts




    ...and no one's mentioned PIL yet? Or are we totally over the inobscure acts?



    inobscure or not I'd love the recommendations. I didn't even own a non rap/ R&B album until I was 18 years old. I'm seriously a little dude when it comes to this type of music



    Well, then, some big-name essentials (more or less Throbby):



    Public Image Limited - First Issue

    Public Image Limited - Second Edition/Metal Box

    X-Ray Spex - Germ-Free Adolescents

    Gang of Four - Entertainment!

    Gang of Four - Solid Gold

    The Contortions - Buy The Contortions

    Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

    Joy Division - Closer

    The Slits - Cut

    Anything on 99 Records (Konk, Liquid Liquid, ESG, etc.)

    and you'll probably like Gary Numan's "The Pleasure Principle."



    ... then there's this whole "Wire" nonsense.





    Oh, and to folks that know: How are the Swell Maps?

  • you need to get this


    these guys were whitesoulboy material




  • Check just about anything on the Ron Johnson label out the mid-80s UK. Very influenced by the post punk/no wave sound of the early 80s:

    http://www.timewasting.net/ronj/

    Also:
















    Angular.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,921 Posts


    Funk w/ punky elements

    Co-sign on this and on Neville C's DAF. Defunkt's "Razor's Edge" 12", where they go off over the "Five Minutes Of Funk" groove, is great. Dunno how easy it would be to find, though. Their second album, "Thermonuclear Sweat", is jazzier and features a crazy version of "For The Love Of Money".

    Anyway, recommendations from someone who ate that shit up BITD;

    Gang Of Four - "Entertainment".
    Slits - "Cut".[/b]

    Both these records are untouchable, and were my shit when I was a 20-y-o.

    First four Talking Heads albums.[/b]

    "Remain In Light" is the post-punk-funk landmark joint, but "Fear Of Music" is unfairly slept on ("I Zimbra" is the jam). The first two are a little more conventional in comparison, but are still great records. Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth come off like an art-school version of Duck Dunn and Al Jackson, and Tina Weymouth in particular remains a musical hero of mine. Don't sleep on "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts", the Byrne/Eno collab that's been mentioned up in here a few times.

    First two Pop Group albums.[/b]

    These guys didn't leave much of a mark in America, then? They got a bit free-jazz/musique concrete at times, but both these albums are wild. Dennis "Blackbeard" Bovell produced the first one. There was a single, "She Is Beyond Good And Evil", which wasn't on the o.g. of "Y" (the first album) and is fantastic, but may have been included on subsequent cd issues - I dunno. They made quite a few non-album singles that are definitely worth tracking down, but will probably be scarcer Stateside than they are in the UK (very). There's a Pigbag connection as well - a couple of Pigbag's founders were o.g. members of The Pop Group - and while I'm getting all Pete Frame Rock Family Trees, Dan Catsis, who played bass on the second album, "For How Much Longer Will We Tolerate Mass Murder" (they were kinda earnest) was in Glaxo Babies, whose "Nine Months To The Disco" album is good as well.

    First two Public Image Ltd. albums.[/b]

    "Metal Box" (a.k.a. "Second Edition") is the one to catch, but the the first album is worth checking. They got crazy with the remixes on the associated 12" singles as well ("Memories" and "Death Disco" in particular), so keep an eye out for them. Jah Wobble's "Betrayal" album was supposedly a collection of PiL out-takes, but I may be off-base on that.

    A Certain Ratio - all the Factory/Factory Benelux/Disques du Crepuscule singles, first two albums.[/b]

    These guys are still going. and are still good live. The records have been as uneven as you might expect from a band that's been going over 25 years, and I don't have the brainpower right now to cherry-pick the best shit from their output. All the above are good, though, and their post-Factory output has its moments as well.

    Miscellaneous shit like one-off singles.[/b]

    Shriekback - Lined Up/My Spine Is The Bassline 12" singles
    Bloods - Button Up 45 (Soul Jazz comped this - I had my 45 jacked at a party years ago)
    Material - Discourse 45 (dunno how rare this is - I think it was their first single - but it's great, and worth finding)
    23 Skidoo - Coup (classic shit - "Fuck you, GI!")
    Delta 5 - any Rough trade 45s
    Manicured Noise - Metronome/Faith 45's (lost classics reminiscent of early Heads)
    Section 25 - Girls Don't Count 45 (PiL-ish trio who made a few good records)


    A lot of other good recommendations in this thread, and a few that are seriously I could probably come up with another ten or fifteen corkers from the UK alone, but it's late and I have a headache, and there's plenty to work with here.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,921 Posts
    Oh, and to folks that know: How are the Swell Maps?

    Great. Not really post-punk-funk at all; more like the precursors of indie, but with a far broader musical range than the term "indie" has come to imply. They made two great albums ("A Trip To Marineville" and "Jane From Occupied Europe") which have just been, or are about to be, reissued, and a shitpile of singles. Definitely worth investigating.

  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    WORD!


    Dubious, I own (and enjoy) most of the records you posted. Hear, hear. But I just have to call out this Orange Juice record as complete piece of lightweight twee pop crap. NEXT.



    to each his own but that's got to be one of the top ten greatest post punk singles ever recorded man.
    that said i've only been able to get into the rest of their catalogue in the last couple of years... it is definalty as naff, twee, and daft as punk ever got, and that's precisely what makes it so dope.

    and speaking of poppy post punky bands you really can't go wrong with the Flying Nun stuff from new zealand.. The Chills and The Clean cannot be fucked with... anybody who thinks rob pollard is a genius needs to go back and check this shit.

    while not funky in the slightest i will mention (since somebody did ask) that Swell Maps is THAT REAL SHIT. greatest band member names of all time: Epic Soundtracks (RIP), Nicki Sudden and Phones Statesman.

    if they coulda drafted in Dave Formula (greatest keyboard player name this side of steve naive) from magazine then they coulda been unstoppable.


  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts

    Section 25 - Girls Don't Count 45 (PiL-ish trio who made a few good records)

    i wouldnt call them PILish .. they were a second tier Factory band ala A Certain Ratio. And dabbled in a similar dark post joy division sound for a few years before hatching a massive breakthrough with Looking From A Hilltop, which saw them out New Order with the electronic pop massivity. Suppossedly the first record to freak the 303.


  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,921 Posts

    Section 25 - Girls Don't Count 45 (PiL-ish trio who made a few good records)

    i wouldnt call them PILish .. they were a second tier Factory band ala A Certain Ratio. And dabbled in a similar dark post joy division sound for a few years before hatching a massive breakthrough with Looking From A Hilltop, which saw them out New Order with the electronic pop massivity. Suppossedly the first record to freak the 303.


    I'm more familiar with their earlier stuff, which is kinda murky, bass-heavy and a little Can-influenced (much like PiL). I saw them about four or five times over the years, and it was interesting seeing them change and develop, but for whatever reason, I always tend to associate them with the stuff they did on those early 45s rather that the later joints.

    And for what it's worth, A Certain Ratio were never second-tier at Factory; quite the opposite, in fact. They obviously never had the same impact or sales as Joy Division/New Order, but they were pretty central to the Factory ethos. There was even going to be an ACR movie at one point. I think it was provisionally called "Too Young To Know, Too Wild To Care". I actually saw a synopsis for it - I think they were going for a post-punk Hard Day's Night directed by Godard kinda vibe. There was also a plan for them to record an album with Grace Jones, as her back-up band. I know a cover of Talking Heads' "Houses In Motion" was recorded, but I think that was all. The Island a&r guy whose idea it was died suddenly, and the project died with him.
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