World Cup sh*t tawk

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  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    Italy bossed it tbf. We always looked vulnerable down that left flank and they exploited it fully. Pirlo is a fucking amazing player for sure, for all the hype Gerard gets he's just nowhere near that kind of quality.

    As improved as England were and as happy as I am to see the kind of squad I've been asking for for several years now, we still don't really have the technique to compete with the top teams. When they wanted to Italy just walked through us, ok they didn't actually threaten our goal too often, but they gave up after their second goal and settled for defending their lead.
    They'd just give the ball to Pirlo, who'd check for the long ball, then lay it off to a wide player in space around the halfway mark, who'd immediately knock it to someone in space more central, who would then have options of going back out wide to either wingforward or wingback, or another player in space centrally, and all this happens in 1 or 2 touches. England on the other hand would knock it wide then it would either be a hopeful ball down the wing, a ball centrally to a marked player going nowhere, or they'd stand there doing the 'somebody give me an option' dance, by which point it's too late and it's knocked back to a CB.
    To succeed at the top level you to have to have players moving in space who are expecting to receive the ball in a few passes, and each player needs to be aware of their options and to have made their next pass decision before they've even received the ball. England only occasionally try to do this but they're very rarely on the same wavelength, whilst the quality sides all know how to do this and we must get there and learn to work the ball as a team as well. The problem is exemplified by someone like Wilshere, who will drive at defences expecting team mates to move with him, strikers to come short etc so they can play quick short passes to cut through defences on the move, like he does at Arsenal. Unfortunately England players are more likely to go in the opposite direction moving wide or towards the goal to await a cross, so Wilshere just looks like he's running into a blind alley.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,778 Posts

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  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Whatevers, but this WC already outshines the whole of SA2010, and hopefully we've seen the end of that tiki bullshit that sucked the life out of the event.

    Teams seem more intent on attacking rather than suffocating.

  • toby.dtoby.d 254 Posts
    When I close my eyes I can still see the Rooney corner which never made it onto the pitch. *shudders*

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,896 Posts
    skel said:
    and hopefully we've seen the end of that tiki bullshit that sucked the life out of the event.



  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,896 Posts
    toby.d said:
    When I close my eyes I can still see the Rooney corner which never made it onto the pitch. *shudders*

    It must sting quite a bit for him. Do your part to get the team to the big show. But for the most part underachieve at the big show. Perfect pass to create a great goal. Flops it from the corner... Will be talked about for years.

    I still don't understand why he was taking the corner in the first place.


    That all said. It was hopeful seeing the youth at it yesterday.

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,233 Posts
    meanwhile, an opinion straight out of an old white american male's anus:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/06/13/why-wont-be-watching-world-cup/

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,233 Posts
    I thought England looked pretty good, and they still have a strong chance of going through thanks to Uruguay's shocker.

    Costa Rica looked surprisingly good though, from what I understand that Campbell kid belongs to Arsenal but couldn't get a work permit to play in England?? That kid looked better than Theo Walcott!

    Today we have the first match here in Porto Alegre - France v. Honduras. I almost got a ticket from some dude, but he was trying to sell me one of those corporate tickets (this one from Johnson & Johnson) and couldn't transfer it to my name, and I wasn't about to give dude a chunk of change only to get blocked at the gates for not having the correct ID or some shit. Pretty ironic though that FIFA has all these bullshit rules to keep scalpers away yet the tickets being scalped are the ones given to the big corporate sponsors. Got my Holland tickets the official way though, lucked out with the FIFA website over the weekend. Plan on getting my afternoon drunk on with the people in oranje on wednesday.

    I'm gonna try to hit up the bars for the Argentina game, see if the french will be out partying (or crying into their beers).

  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,885 Posts
    The Italians played smarter and that's what won it for them. Their league is more tactical and they all know options for most circumstances.

    Having said that, England's pushing style was well worth a draw and better to watch.

    I believe, if we can maintain that tempo, WE CAN DO THIS.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,778 Posts
    ppadilha said:
    WHY HAVE WE WAITED 36 YEARS TO HAVE ANOTHER WORLD CUP IN SOUTH AMERICA????


    Argentina, 1978. Nothing untoward about that tournament...





    ;-)


    But this has, so far, been the best opening to a World Cup I've watched. Goals in every game, attacking football, great stadium atmosphere, headline-grabbing results.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Still nursing a hangover from whooping it up all through the Costa Rican and Italian victories yesterday. HELL TO THE YES! I'm flying to San Jose tomorrow morning. Will be there for Costa Rica versus Italy on Friday. My goodness.

  • parallaxparallax no-style-having mf'er 1,266 Posts
    England did well against Italy. And that Sterling kid is unfuckingreal! Like, ho-lee-schitt.

    Several great games so far. And yes, I too am loving the teams that are just going for it. None of this nil-nil shit. A few exciting upsets. Love it. More, please.

    b/w

    !!!!PORTUGAL!!!!

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,913 Posts
    I think England will get out of the group. On the evidence of the earlier game, neither Costa Rica nor Uruguay have anything approaching the same sort of quality in the middle or at the back as Italy (who we were never going to beat), and if their coach keeps his word and doesn't play Suarez against England, the latter aren't likely to have much success up front either.

    It's been a good WC so far, from what I've seen. After the Brazil game, we had the now-traditional community singing of that old World Cup favourite, "Take Away [insert name of talismanic player/ref/sponsor/kit manufacturer here], and Brazil Don't Really Look All That, Do They?", but they're unlikely to struggle, are they? Spain getting utterly murdered by an admittedly very good and much-improved Dutch side did underscore my belief that this Spanish team is reaching the end of its cycle. I've rooted for them going into the last three major tournaments, and I think they'll get a lot further than the other night's result suggests, but they won't retain it - I have a feeling it'll be Argentina's year.

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,233 Posts
    "ENGLISH MAN HAS WORN SAME COSTUME FOR THREE DAYS AND HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S DRINKING ANYMORE"

    http://copadomundo.uol.com.br/noticias/redacao/2014/06/14/ingles-usa-mesma-fantasia-ha-tres-dias-e-ja-nem-sabe-o-que-esta-bebendo.htm

  • Bon VivantBon Vivant The Eye of the Storm 2,018 Posts
    Duderonomy said:



    b/w

    Costa Rica!

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    ppadilha said:
    "ENGLISH MAN HAS WORN SAME COSTUME FOR THREE DAYS AND HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S DRINKING ANYMORE"

    http://copadomundo.uol.com.br/noticias/redacao/2014/06/14/ingles-usa-mesma-fantasia-ha-tres-dias-e-ja-nem-sabe-o-que-esta-bebendo.htm

    Stan Field, 44 anos, e excepcao.
    "A Skol e fantastica"

    Lollers
    Good to see he's making an effort to pick up the lingo

    B/w

    "Hooliganismo"

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,778 Posts


    Still not Maradona-good.

  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,885 Posts
    Was pretty average for the entire first half. Sterling had more impact.

    If you pegged Messi's transfer value at, say, £100M before the competition, I predict that figure will appear wildly optimistic when the dust has settled.

    Maybe he's knackered from Spain. Maybe he's not 100% healthy, but they are not letting on.

    Y'know, like Rooney is.

    ALL THE TIME.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,778 Posts
    "If I would talk, the Spanish football team would be stripped of the 2010 World Cup" - Dr Fuentes.
    Maybe Messi was a client too?

  • it is time








  • JectWonJectWon (@_@) 1,654 Posts
    Pepe, Pepe, Pepe...what the fuck, dude.

    B/W

    3 zip? Where the hell is Portugal today?

  • i can't imagine it was part of their plan to spot them 3 goals and a core defender.

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,233 Posts
    Portugal aren't going to make it out of this group, are they?

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Ok this is the one I've been waiting for.

    Oil and strife in common.
    Big powerful fuckers against nippy little fuckers.
    This is what it's all about.

    Bore draw potential.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    So did America win this thing yet, or what?

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,896 Posts
    DB_Cooper said:
    So did America win this thing yet, or what?

    No worries. They have a perfect record so far this tournment.


  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,778 Posts
    I think USA has a reasonable chance of getting out of the group now. Beat Ghana, possible win or draw against Portugal, and take it like a [strike]man[/strike] 5 dollar hoe from Germany, and job done.

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Oh dear. Iran are woeful.
    Nigeria all long ball.
    Poor opening quarter.

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,331 Posts
    How come there is no instant replay in futbol? It makes no sense to me, considering ONE goal determines the outcome of a game.
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