Jack White's Lazaretto
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Is stuff like this just a gimmick or the makings of a valuble collectors item? We've all bought records that have many of these features. But I've never seen so many on a single vinyl. Any other good examples?
http://thirdmanstore.com/jack-white-lazaretto-12-vinyl
- 180 gram vinyl
- 2 vinyl-only hidden tracks hidden beneath the center labels
- 1 hidden track plays at 78 RPM, one plays at 45 RPM, making this a 3-speed record
- Side A plays from the inside out
- Dual-groove technology: plays an electric or acoustic intro for ???Just One Drink??? depending on where needle is dropped. The grooves meet for the body of the song.
- Matte finish on Side B, giving the appearance of an un-played 78 RPM record
- Both sides end with locked grooves
- Vinyl pressed in seldom-used flat-edged format
- Dead wax area on Side A contains a hand-etched hologram by Tristan Duke of Infinity Light Science, the first of its kind on a vinyl record
- Absolutely zero compression used during recording, mixing and mastering
- Different running order from the CD/digital version
- LP utilizes some mixes different from those used on CD and digital version
http://thirdmanstore.com/jack-white-lazaretto-12-vinyl
- 180 gram vinyl
- 2 vinyl-only hidden tracks hidden beneath the center labels
- 1 hidden track plays at 78 RPM, one plays at 45 RPM, making this a 3-speed record
- Side A plays from the inside out
- Dual-groove technology: plays an electric or acoustic intro for ???Just One Drink??? depending on where needle is dropped. The grooves meet for the body of the song.
- Matte finish on Side B, giving the appearance of an un-played 78 RPM record
- Both sides end with locked grooves
- Vinyl pressed in seldom-used flat-edged format
- Dead wax area on Side A contains a hand-etched hologram by Tristan Duke of Infinity Light Science, the first of its kind on a vinyl record
- Absolutely zero compression used during recording, mixing and mastering
- Different running order from the CD/digital version
- LP utilizes some mixes different from those used on CD and digital version
Comments
This record *could* end up being worth $
*nopun
- 180 gram vinyl
This adds a premium to records. If given a choice I would usually choose the non-180 press. I am cheap that way.
- 2 vinyl-only hidden tracks hidden beneath the center labels
Never heard of hiding a track under the label.
- 1 hidden track plays at 78 RPM, one plays at 45 RPM, making this a 3-speed record
I had a three speed bike once.
- Side A plays from the inside out
I remember some big deal collectibles back in the day with this feature. Today I can't even remember what they were.
- Dual-groove technology: plays an electric or acoustic intro for ÔÇ£Just One DrinkÔÇØ depending on where needle is dropped. The grooves meet for the body of the song.
I remember some big deal collectibles back in the day with this feature. Today I can't even remember what they were.
- Matte finish on Side B, giving the appearance of an un-played 78 RPM record
Cool. Never heard of that.
- Both sides end with locked grooves
Annoying.
- Vinyl pressed in seldom-used flat-edged format
Ok. So what?
- Dead wax area on Side A contains a hand-etched hologram by Tristan Duke of Infinity Light Science, the first of its kind on a vinyl record
Hope to see that some day.
- Absolutely zero compression used during recording, mixing and mastering
Ok. Impresses me as much as 180gm does.
- Different running order from the CD/digital version
Whatever.
- LP utilizes some mixes different from those used on CD and digital version
Better? Or just different?
When cassettes were competing with vinyl they did lots of extra tracks, different mixes and other bonuses on the cassettes. This was part of the record companies attempt to kill vinyl. You would buy it, and then play it in the machine that made pre-recorded cassettes unnecessary.
I can appreciate that though. At a time when EVERYTHING'S "limited edition," it's cool to offer something that can and would sell (out) for $50+ be offered across the board at a reasonable price.
So...
Will any one here say they like Jack White?
I enjoy his tunes as well. I don't think I'm a huge Raconteurs fan but I do enjoy his solo work and some of the WHite Stripes stuff is undeniably great...I can't blame him for all the tunes he's made that the radio has played too much.
I also think this is a cool idea...fuck it, cram all the cool vinyl tricks that you can into a record.
When I see stuff like this I feel like he's a decent chap.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jack-white-donates-200-000-for-sound-preservation-effort-20130729
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jack-white-saves-detroit-masonic-temple-from-foreclosure-20130604
And I think he's talented and like some of his stuff...
Liked this part in "It might get loud".
White Stripes had some good songs and there is no denying Jack has talent even if he is just re-living the old days of the blues.
Lazer - Any chance you'll remember those records? I know De La Soul had the double track 12" with Me Myself and I and Brain Washed Follower.
Is this meant to be good? I don't understand this one.
Can someone please explain why this is meant to make me want the record more.
The rest sounds cool to me though.
Supposedly compression is everything that's wrong with digital music so you would assume lack of compression is a good thing.
IIRC, compression exists because no sound recording equipment, analog or digital, is as good as capturing sound as the human ear.
So if you want the recording to relay to the listener quiet AND loud sounds, you need to boost the level of the quiet shit and trim the levels of the loudest shit in order to capture them effectively and put them within the dynamic range of the recording equipment, otherwise they will get lost. This is compression.
So the argument about using zero compression would imply to me that they take the stance that compression sounds artificial, compared to those old timey authentic recordings that didn't have any pin droppings or snares cracking.
YMMV or I may be talking out of my sphincter.
I know Thes must be the SS DON regarding this as the Highlighter album was recorded in some super hi-fi codec.
Brilliant rip-off of my favorite Stranglers song:
Compression exists, in philosophy, to mimic air's ability to soften transients as they travel from instrument to ear. Not using compression is something no one ever strived for on classic records, ask Joe Meek. Bruce Swedien says he never used compression but he lied, because tape inherently compresses, its the nature of magnetics. Anyhoooo
Heres a list of cool features my album has:
LOCK GROOVE AT THE END OF THE SIDE (to keep your needle from sliding across the label - like every god damn record)
GROOVE GUARD LIP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SIDE (to keep the needle from sliding off the beginning of the record)
MUSIC - YES MUSIC (my album has music you can listen to. And you dont have to change the speed of the record while it is playing)
Novel concepts.
De LA Soul did dual groove a decade ago.
MUSIC DOESN'T SUCK.
^this
The main thing I look for in any record.
Yeah, the 'no compression' thing is pretty arbitrary because compression is inherent in all recording processes, starting at the microphone. Ironically, there is less of it on digital recording than analog.
For me, judicious use of compression is one of the best tools an engineer can have, a lot of the characteristics that people like about vinyl/analog are actually caused by compression.
Way back when the White Stripes were hitting big I remember a lot of hate. I heard over and over "I liked them back before anyone else knew who they were. Too bad they sold out. They suck now."
;-)
The next morning in my truck, I threw on The Pixies Trompe le Monde, which might be my least favorite of their core work, but came up with the conclusion that even this second rate Pixies album is way better than anything Jack White has ever done. And I actually like some of Jack White's stuff. Again, I know I sound like a dated old foagie, but what is wrong with these young people nowadays?
Oh yeah, the other thing I brought up with them, if just for a minute, is how come white American kids quit listening to rap? Yeah, of course there is still the trailer trash element out there doing their best Lil Wyte impersonations. But it seems to me that suburban kids are no longer digging up the good underground ish any more. Maybe it's not melancholy and wimpypseudolumberjackish for them. I really can't call it.
It's your world, playa.