In Brasil we've been doing the screamy-shouty thing in the streets, with the occasional breaky-smashy thrown in, for a minute too. You'd be amazed at what you can get out of it. So far we've gotten cheaper public transit with a national budget for improvement of the systems and local projects for deeper reform in that sector, increased public education and health budgets, got congress to vote down some retarded amendments that were on the pipeline, and may even be getting political reform out of it, including campaign finance reform. You people in teh US of A should give it a shot.
Seems like the people of Egypt want to move in the right direction. As a brazilian the concept of the army being on the side of the people is foreign to me, but the egyptians seem to trust them to some extent.
Yes, al Jazeera, Ahram Online and Guardian (UK) have good coverage and with history, context and insight from people who know what they're talking about.
Ahram is a government outlet, but I am not entirely sure what Egyptian government means today, an hour from now or tomorrow.
I think whoever wrote the banner is taking things a little out of context.
we're not holding american elections in egypt or the middle east so
I don't think if our hand were dirty that they are in egypt currently.
whatever. they read facebook a lot, that's there informations.
Not exactly dirty but there's a billion or two a year in (declared) aid every year from the US, mostly military so they carry some weight when it comes to how Egypt is run.
Interesting BBC interviews today with various Middle Eastern commentators all saying that it's only in the West that it's being called a coup, and that it's a loaded word betraying the West's real sympathies. Not sure I agree with that on that but they quoted the definition of a coup as a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
I think whoever wrote the banner is taking things a little out of context.
we're not holding american elections in egypt or the middle east so
I don't think if our hand were dirty that they are in egypt currently.
whatever. they read facebook a lot, that's there informations.
They are not getting things out of context, that's how 99% of the Arab world thinks like, they utterly despise the US government. They know what's really going on because they're at the receiving end of America's government foreign policies.
Interesting BBC interviews today with various Middle Eastern commentators all saying that it's only in the West that it's being called a coup, and that it's a loaded word betraying the West's real sympathies. Not sure I agree with that on that but they quoted the definition of a coup as a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
Coups do not have to be violent. The military gave Morsi a deadline, forced him out, picked the interim head of government and is now In the process of rounding up the Muslim Beotherhood and throwing them in jail. That's a coup.
I don't disagree just found it interesting they want to call it a revolution, not a coup.
That's because they're getting caught up in the demonstrations. If the military maintains the power to bring governments down and arrest all the ex-officials it's not a revolution.
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Seems like the people of Egypt want to move in the right direction. As a brazilian the concept of the army being on the side of the people is foreign to me, but the egyptians seem to trust them to some extent.
and there you have it folks; this thread is a wrap.
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Hi Brian
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peace, stein. . .
Ahram is a government outlet, but I am not entirely sure what Egyptian government means today, an hour from now or tomorrow.
Egypt had one 2 years ago that ousted Hosni Mubarak. Control was given back to a civilian government, just like they promised.
I'm willing to wait and see.
Morsi and Mubarak both governed at the pleasure of the military.
That's a nice sentiment but U.S policy makers serve at the behest of the American people and we generally get the government we deserve. :-/
Not exactly dirty but there's a billion or two a year in (declared) aid every year from the US, mostly military so they carry some weight when it comes to how Egypt is run.
The new military leadership was apointed by Morsi himself however.
They are not getting things out of context, that's how 99% of the Arab world thinks like, they utterly despise the US government. They know what's really going on because they're at the receiving end of America's government foreign policies.
Coups do not have to be violent. The military gave Morsi a deadline, forced him out, picked the interim head of government and is now In the process of rounding up the Muslim Beotherhood and throwing them in jail. That's a coup.
That's because they're getting caught up in the demonstrations. If the military maintains the power to bring governments down and arrest all the ex-officials it's not a revolution.