I respect people who serve in the military or as cops and who might find themselves in situations where they have to kill. I don't respect people who torture captured prisoners on spec and I find the comparison enormously laughable.
I've read some of your respectful cop comments...you are a great backer of the blue and "Repsect people who serve as cops"
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The White House will rest easy now that they know MoeLarryAndJesus completely supports their Drone policy
If given a choice between torturing our enemies (usually with doctors present), using a method that we subject our own soldiers to during training, of which no enemy has ever died from and given it might have a very small chance of producing valuable information. Versus using unmanned drones to kill their asses, gimme the former every time.
That's a false dichotomy. The purpose of torture and drone attacks are completely different. And in case you missed the guy's argument it has been made by U.S. intelligence and FBI interrogators many times, all torture gets you is people saying whatever they can to stop the torture. The people pushing torture are politicians, bureaucrats and generals making knee jerk decisions after catastrophic events.
Yes or No
Do you support the use of unmanned drones to kill our enemies including American citizens?
Either way, we can disagree on what we think is the lesser of two evils....no problem.
Back on topic, I thought this was a good movie. For whatever it's worth, the account of how part of this went down is consistent with a Navy SEAL who was involved with the mission & actually shot Bin Laden. They discussed it yesterday on 'Killing Bin Laden' on 60 minutes:
If given a choice between torturing our enemies (usually with doctors present), using a method that we subject our own soldiers to during training, of which no enemy has ever died from and given it might have a very small chance of producing valuable information. Versus using unmanned drones to kill their asses, gimme the former every time.
That's a false dichotomy. The purpose of torture and drone attacks are completely different. And in case you missed the guy's argument it has been made by U.S. intelligence and FBI interrogators many times, all torture gets you is people saying whatever they can to stop the torture. The people pushing torture are politicians, bureaucrats and generals making knee jerk decisions after catastrophic events.
Yes or No
Do you support the use of unmanned drones to kill our enemies including American citizens?
Either way, we can disagree on what we think is the lesser of two evils....no problem.
The point of torture in the U.S. is to garner intelligence. Many people, not just this U.S. Army interrogator say that it doesn't work.
The point of drones is to kill people we think are terrorists.
If given a choice between torturing our enemies (usually with doctors present), using a method that we subject our own soldiers to during training, of which no enemy has ever died from and given it might have a very small chance of producing valuable information. Versus using unmanned drones to kill their asses, gimme the former every time.
The full horror of the CIA interrogation and detention programmes launched in the wake of the September 11 terror attack was laid bare in the long-awaited Senate report released on Tuesday.
While parts of the programme had been known – and much more will never be revealed – the catalogue of abuse is nightmarish and reads like something invented by the Marquis de Sade or Hieronymous Bosch.
Detainees were forced to stand on broken limbs for hours, kept in complete darkness, deprived of sleep for up to 180 hours, sometimes standing, sometimes with their arms shackled above their heads.
Prisoners were subjected to “rectal feeding” without medical necessity. Rectal exams were conducted with “excessive force”. The report highlights one prisoner later diagnosed with anal fissures, chronic hemorrhoids and “symptomatic rectal prolapse”.
The report mentions mock executions, Russian roulette. US agents threatened to slit the throat of a detainee’s mother, sexually abuse another and threatened prisoners’ children. One prisoner died of hypothermia brought on in part by being forced to sit on a bare concrete floor without pants.
More grisly details in the article. So the film was a white wash if anything.
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I've read some of your respectful cop comments...you are a great backer of the blue and "Repsect people who serve as cops"
b/w
The White House will rest easy now that they know MoeLarryAndJesus completely supports their Drone policy
Yes or No
Do you support the use of unmanned drones to kill our enemies including American citizens?
Either way, we can disagree on what we think is the lesser of two evils....no problem.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50141651n
LOL this guy is still around?
The point of torture in the U.S. is to garner intelligence. Many people, not just this U.S. Army interrogator say that it doesn't work.
The point of drones is to kill people we think are terrorists.
They are not comparable activities.
The former wasn't on offer:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-worst-findings-waterboard-rectal
More grisly details in the article. So the film was a white wash if anything.
His is a voice that is sorely missed.