East of the River Nile - A Pablo
Blackboard Jungle - L Perry and The Upsetters
Dangerous Dub - Roots Radics and King Tubby
Dub Conference Vol.1 - Harry Mudie and King Tubby
Kind of suprised to see that the Aswad is a respected record, I've loved that record for 20+ years but never really heard anyone give it props, I just assumed because it wasn't from JA.
Here's my choice, hate all you want:
it's certainly a very uneven LP, but the "protection" dub is great and "backwards sucking" is one of the top 10 "songs to smoke trees to" ever...
you guys are all sleeping/fucking up when it comes to scientist tho... all those greensleeves cartoon character records suck eggs compared to these 2...
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My first choice would have been In The Light Dub, but that's already gone, so I thought I'd go with Blackbeard's I Wah Dub. It was a very big record for me & my boys when it came out in 1980, and it seemed to be a big record with many UK post-punk types generally. Basically, Dennis Bovell goes off on this, as if he was trying to make the wildest, most out-there, most technologically here-and-now dub record he could, and the cover art taps into that whole afro-futurist thing evident in Parliafunkadelicment, Sun Ra and so on. Adrian Sherwood did something broadly similar around the same time with Creation Rebel's Starship Africa, which went even further out, to places sonically nearer to Ornette Coleman or electric Miles than to reggae. Contemporaneously, this originates from around the time Bovell was producing The Pop Group and The Slits, and I seem to remember a few dub connoisseurs getting a bit sniffy about it. The suggestion was that it was a gimmicky, commercial record rather than a serious dub album, purposely designed to appeal to all the punk-rock kids who'd begun turning up at Matumbi shows. Perhaps it was, but I don't really care about that - it's got as much character and musicality as any other great dub record I can think of, and it stands up to repeat listening.
Interesting take-that-shit-to-the-brits fun fact about this album; in the early years of EastEnders, this album was regularly used as diegetic music in the show. Whenever you heard generic reggae music playing in the background of a scene, it was invariably a track from I Wah Dub.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
p_gunn said:
you guys are all sleeping/fucking up when it comes to scientist tho... all those greensleeves cartoon character records suck eggs compared to these 2...
Yeah, that first Scientist album is amazing. Wasn't he about 16 when that dropped? He certainly looks it on the cover. I remember buying this when it came out.
Another one which blew my teenage punk-rocker mind, and which hasn't been mentioned yet is this Yabby You killer.
I'm gonna break all the rules and add all four chapters of Joe Gibbs African Dub All Mighty.
chapter 1 is a bit of a snooze, well at least not "dub", more straight instro w/ no FX and minimal drop outs, reminds me of the Revolutionaries LP w/ Che on the cover... the other 3 are fucking ill...
Kind of suprised to see that the Aswad is a respected record, I've loved that record for 20+ years but never really heard anyone give it props, I just assumed because it wasn't from JA.
Big fan of Niney, even if his solo lp discography is pretty slim. Sledgehammer Dub is a great lp, and his various dub works seem to have gotten a fair amount of shine from a glut of comps in recent years.
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King Tubby (& The Skatalites) - Herb Dub - Collie Dub
Which can be bought with extra tracks in the 2002 Motion release, The Skatalites & King Tubby - The Legendary Skatalites In Dub. it's The Skatalites AND King Tubby so you know it's some next level ish.
THE LEGENDARY SKATALITES IN DUBIn 1975 Lloyd Brevett organised some jamming sessions at his Kingston home involving almost all of the remaining Skatalites (Don Drmmond of course had tragically died and Jackie Mittoo was out of the country). These were followed up by sessions at Lee Perry's Black Ark, and Aquarius Studio, resulting in the release of an instrumental album, The Legendary Skatalites (1975). Soon after, a dub set, Herb Dub Collie Dub, appeared in very limited numbers. In 1998 Motion Records released a companion set of alternative dubs, Heroes Of Reggae In Dub, and later a vinyl only re-issue of Herb Dub Collie Dub (2001). The Legendary Skatalites In Dub completes the set with the pick of the tracks from the 1975 sessions plus a sought-after vocal cut entitled 'Starlight' originally released on 7" on Lloyd Brevett's own label.
We think these are the only reggae dub tracks featuring double bass.
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King Tubby - Shalom Dub is a classic that hasn't been mentioned yet.
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And a personal favourite.. Sly & The Revolutionaries with Jah Thomas - Black Ash Dub.
I'm gonna break all the rules and add all four chapters of Joe Gibbs African Dub All Mighty.
This!
Was trying to post a dub mix of mine from a few years back but the Divshare file isn't working.
Gonna have to track down somebody with a copy on CD and get back to this thread with it later.
I posted it on SS in the past, if anybody has a digital copy of Dug Dub let me know.
It was on my old computer that went tits up.
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you just couldn't control yourself, could you.
for shame, Bassie. FOR SHAME.
This one deserves a mention as well:
B/W
Faux Rillz has a complete Bill Laswell collection.
it's certainly a very uneven LP, but the "protection" dub is great and "backwards sucking" is one of the top 10 "songs to smoke trees to" ever...
you guys are all sleeping/fucking up when it comes to scientist tho... all those greensleeves cartoon character records suck eggs compared to these 2...
Interesting take-that-shit-to-the-brits fun fact about this album; in the early years of EastEnders, this album was regularly used as diegetic music in the show. Whenever you heard generic reggae music playing in the background of a scene, it was invariably a track from I Wah Dub.
Yeah, that first Scientist album is amazing. Wasn't he about 16 when that dropped? He certainly looks it on the cover. I remember buying this when it came out.
Another one which blew my teenage punk-rocker mind, and which hasn't been mentioned yet is this Yabby You killer.
Selectah!-ah!-ah!-ah!
Rockers Meets King Tubby was the first I listened to, this was the first I owned and got to digest sans l'herb.
As a contribution to the thread, I'll nominate a single:
Naggo Morris - jah Guide
The dub (which you can get on 45) starts around 3:50 into this.
Sly & Robbie - Destination Unknown
I'm gonna break all the rules and add all four chapters of Joe Gibbs African Dub All Mighty.
or this one
very solid
Rhythm & Sound - the versions
This is such a great modern dub album with an amazing quality of production
chapter 1 is a bit of a snooze, well at least not "dub", more straight instro w/ no FX and minimal drop outs, reminds me of the Revolutionaries LP w/ Che on the cover... the other 3 are fucking ill...
Yeah, I love King In My Empire. Production is next
levels.
This is lovely:
Jah Wally All Star Band - Righteous Dub
however it's encouraging me to finish this dub mix i've been crafting for a minute
POAST WHEN TING IS ROLLED.
Jahbless etc.
yes!
Couldn??t resist to mention this one as well:
is a Game Over Scorcha in my book. A true "lost classic" dub masterpiece.
was gonna post exactly this one, browsed the 1st two pages and didnt see it and was like "damn, nobody digs this?"
HUGE cosine.
this is also an awesome album
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King Tubby (& The Skatalites) - Herb Dub - Collie Dub
Which can be bought with extra tracks in the 2002 Motion release, The Skatalites & King Tubby - The Legendary Skatalites In Dub. it's The Skatalites AND King Tubby so you know it's some next level ish.
-
King Tubby - Shalom Dub is a classic that hasn't been mentioned yet.
-
And a personal favourite.. Sly & The Revolutionaries with Jah Thomas - Black Ash Dub.
This!
Was trying to post a dub mix of mine from a few years back but the Divshare file isn't working.
Gonna have to track down somebody with a copy on CD and get back to this thread with it later.
I posted it on SS in the past, if anybody has a digital copy of Dug Dub let me know.
It was on my old computer that went tits up.