Django Unchained (QTR)
JATX
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Hey, Strut-
Since there has been much talk about movies as of late, I figured I'd mention the new Tarantino movie coming out this Christmas, Django Unchained. I'm a fan of his movies and I'm looking forward to seeing this. What's the Strut's opinion on Tarantino? Genius, hack, somewhere in between? I can't embed, but a quick google search should take care of that.
I rarely post, but I've been on here for awhile. I'm Jason and I live in Texas. I like records, and, currently I'm big on swimming pools(Texas heat R).
Since there has been much talk about movies as of late, I figured I'd mention the new Tarantino movie coming out this Christmas, Django Unchained. I'm a fan of his movies and I'm looking forward to seeing this. What's the Strut's opinion on Tarantino? Genius, hack, somewhere in between? I can't embed, but a quick google search should take care of that.
I rarely post, but I've been on here for awhile. I'm Jason and I live in Texas. I like records, and, currently I'm big on swimming pools(Texas heat R).
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he has some turds.
he has some heat.
RESERVOIR DOGS
PULP FICTION
JACKIE BROWN
KILL BILL 1 & 2
DEATH PROOF
INGLORIOUS BASTERDS
If he were just a ripoff-artist, every one of these flicks would be a forgettable direct-to-video piece of junk instead of the iconic and influential art they almost all of them are. Like Godard, he uses his knowledge of pop culture not just to rehash it, but to comment, critique, and expand upon it. And though he's an amazing action and setpiece stylist, his real strength (to me) is his strong dialogue and deft Lumet-like handling of actors to get some of the best performances of their careers. Seriously, did Pam Grier, John Travolta, Samuel L. Jackson, or Robert Forster EVER turn in better performances for a director other than QT? You know the answer.
Besides, his flicks are challenging, controversial, entertaining, smart, stupid, hilarious and just a hell of a good time.
DJANGO UNCHAINED will be a killer flick that - like most of his work - will be a great ride both intellectually and viscerally as well as inspire lots of discussion afterwards, no doubt about it.
and he is one of the last directors that makes me go to the cinema
Django is classic so i can't wait to see what he does with the genre
major cosign
My favorite thing he ever did was the gay Top Gun monologue from that Sleep With Me movie.
He definitely is one of those directors whose every movie still feels like an "event", though.
it was a love story first and foremost. a chick flick for men. sure, there are caper elements, but the intimacy of the love narrative is what is truly remarkable. the 2 main actors are really nothing to look at, i mean in the grander scheme of hollywood actors. past their prime, tired and old, yet dealing with crushes and lust and love for the mature set. a movie about 2 old coots that have made all the mistakes possible in love, and have come out the other end so seasoned that a nary a titty nor a kiss need be shown to imply the passion. it was so subtle in all its devices that i think in hindsight a lot of people have warmed up to it. for example take the device of the delfonics. jackie brown loved the delfonics. in time, the dude went to the record shop and picked up a copy. who among us hasnt been so influenced by a woman (or man) to the point that you have done the same. i know i have. she doesnt need the bad motherfucker wallet cuz she is the wallet. such a delicate touch on tarantinos part.
and the ending. part western part final scene of casablanca. forrester has to let her go because this is her world. the overarching theme is about men who understand this. that for such a macho director, to suggest that the woman is always the boss is the true macho archetype. and so contrary to his audience and their expectations. a straight up masterpiece that takes a lot of genres and flips them. rivaling if not besting the most underhanded of french movies. dude killed it. granted, everything else has been high octane in comparison, but this just illustrates his mastery.
was about to poast that Sweet and Lowdown already had Django covered.
Agreed, for all the points you stated so well. JB is seriously underrated and hands-down my favorite QT flick.
Yeah it's due out next Christmas not this one.
Jacki Brown is my favorite. Tarantino said he made Jacki Brown after Pulp Fiction to show he's not all style over substance, as some have criticized him for.
I was watching True Romance with Tarantino's commentary the other night. Pretty interesting to listen to, as he details the struggles he went through to sell TR to anybody with money(he mentions having sold TR to an exploitation movie company before Tony Scott took interest). The first three scripts he wrote would be enough to make any screen writer envious:
True Romance
Natural Born Killers
Reservoir Dogs
also, i love the way his movies look
Too true, I re-watched Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs recently. Having not seen PF in about 10 years, it was the performances that really got me this time around. Travolta and Thurman really play off each other and so many things are said between them without any dialog.
I remember really enjoying Jackie Brown when I saw it and I need to watch it again soon. Rum Punch, the book he based it on is great, and you can tell QT is strongly influenced by Elmore Leonard.
sally menke rip
I agree it will hard to replace Sally Menke. Not to take anything away from her at all, but I'm pretty sure Tarantino was next to her the whole time she cut his movies.
Who's doing that? I LOVE LOVE LOVE that movie.
Yep.
I see a QT marathon happening in my near future
Maybe it's just my tastes changing but his films seem more pastiche than content these days and to me it felt like Inglorious in particular really didn't gel as an actual movie. There was one great scene in the bar which I thought was fantastic but the rest of it left me cold and disinterested with scenes that seemed composed because he'd heard a song rather than for any actual content.
Perhaps I'm looking for the wrong things in his films but Jackie Brown felt like he was taking the snappy dialogue, great handling of characters, etc from his earlier films and adding depth to them (agree that even outside that film he's definitely inspired by Leonard) but since then he seems to have regressed ever more so you end up with something like Death Proof where the characters sit in the car talking stylised dialogue for what seems like an age without any purpose beyond QT getting off on it.
I loved that stuff back when Pulp Fiction came out and remember coming out of the cinema a fresh faced 17 year old thinking that I had found my new film god but that was 16 years ago and I'd kind of hoped he had more tricks. I feel like the Weinsteins are too happy to leave him to do what he does and a little bit of direction and control would really help at this stage in his career.
Also, Death Proof was really, really, boring.
I haven't seen Death Proof, but i didn't think Inglorious Basterds was a great film, too. Another genre getting the pastiche treatment by QT. This opinion spawned a lot of debate with friends tho, which i enjoyed. Pulp fiction was pinnacle post-modern tho. That said, i'm really looking forward to his new film.
That said, he has plenty of corny moments. I would much rather hear an interview with Martin Scorsese or Robert Osbourne, for example, talking about their favorite offbeat films than see one with him, rocking back and forth in his chair and going off on tangents about how Elizabeth Allen's bare feet were the subject of his first wet dream or something like that. Also, I hate when other directors feel the need to add "Tarantino-esque" moments (characters watching movies that vaguely parallel the situations at hand, inane dialogue, etc) to their films, although that's not really his fault.
everything in between ranges from ok to good.
How the fuck did I miss this? Beautiful stuff.
I've always considered Jackie Brown to be his masterpiece, and I agree that many people just didn't get it at the time. Me & my girl have watched it countless times, more than any of his other flicks. and it actually improves with repeat viewing in a way that his more celebrated movies perhaps don't. I read the ending in a different, more conventionally romantic way to you, but I nevertheless think it's a beautifully directed and played scene, probably my favourite cinematic moment of the last twenty years.
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I read he may be comleting his trilogy after Django with a movie called "Killer Crow." It was supposed to be in Basterds when it was originally written as a tv mini-series. It's about African-American soldiers in WW2 doing essentially what the Basterds were doing but against white American g.i.s. I'm waiting for Kill Bill 3, personally.