I bet the White House is pretty dissapointed that the only fish they caught with this bait was Trump. It's pretty clear they left this open hoping a serious contender would bite, but when one in four independents thinks you aren't born in the country and the only prospect is sinking the hook further into Trump's mouth I guess it's time to reel it in.
The ease with which they obtained the documents demonstrates the extent to which the media, which has been feeding us a steady stream of excuses as to why Obama could not obtain the document, runs interference for this administration.
I bet the White House is pretty dissapointed that the only fish they caught with this bait was Trump. It's pretty clear they left this open hoping a serious contender would bite, but when one in four independents thinks you aren't born in the country and the only prospect is sinking the hook further into Trump's mouth I guess it's time to reel it in.
The ease with which they obtained the documents demonstrates the extent to which the media, which has been feeding us a steady stream of excuses as to why Obama could not obtain the document, runs interference for this administration.
"In a New York Times/CBS poll released on Thursday, a 45% plurality of Republican adults said they believe Obama was not born in the U.S. Additionally, 33% said Obama was born in America, while 22% said they weren't sure".
This was Thursday, April 21, 2011.
So basically before today, 67% of Republicans either thought Obama was not born in America or weren't sure. You've got to be kidding me about reeling in the bait...have you seen the evidence prior to today? A certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii (which is what they issue to everyone who makes a request that is not in the form of a freedom of information request), newspaper birth announcements that came directly from the state department of health, and a former republican official stating that she saw the actual birth certificate.
A majority of republicans are ignorant, period. Don't make this out to be something it isn't. Obama tried to give credit to people's intelligence for as long as he could; it became too much of a distraction, so he silenced everyone - but probably not.
I bet the White House is pretty dissapointed that the only fish they caught with this bait was Trump. It's pretty clear they left this open hoping a serious contender would bite, but when one in four independents thinks you aren't born in the country and the only prospect is sinking the hook further into Trump's mouth I guess it's time to reel it in.
The ease with which they obtained the documents demonstrates the extent to which the media, which has been feeding us a steady stream of excuses as to why Obama could not obtain the document, runs interference for this administration.
"In a New York Times/CBS poll released on Thursday, a 45% plurality of Republican adults said they believe Obama was not born in the U.S. Additionally, 33% said Obama was born in America, while 22% said they weren't sure".
This was Thursday, April 21, 2011.
So basically before today, 67% of Republicans either thought Obama was not born in America or weren't sure. You've got to be kidding me about reeling in the bait...have you seen the evidence prior to today? A certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii (which is what they issue to everyone who makes a request that is not in the form of a freedom of information request), newspaper birth announcements that came directly from the state department of health, and a former republican official stating that she saw the actual birth certificate.
A majority of republicans are ignorant, period. Don't make this out to be something it isn't. Obama tried to give credit to people's intelligence for as long as he could; it became too much of a distraction, so he silenced everyone - but probably not.
I think it was the 25% of the independents that were the tipping point. But ,of course, all you Democrats were too blinded by manlove smart to be fooled. Again, explain to me how the ease of retrieving the document after years of speculation comports with your Obama trying his darndest to give the American people the shaft credit theory and not my cost benefit theory.
He never should have indulged this bullshit and dignified it with a response.
Agreed. What a stupid thing to do. Additionally, he looks like he's sweating the small stuff when he's got so much more to worry about. No person of any mental capacity actually doubted Obama's veracity on his birthplace, and it was the ultimate "my-opponents-are-batshit-crazy" foil. Now, it looks like Donald Fucking Trump can push our President around. And, true to form, Trump today quickly parlayed this into a "well, that's great, but how about those terrible gas prices?" discussion. And you know what? Donald Trump is right. Frankly, the latter has never looked more Presidential. I have so little respect left to lose for our actual President.
Additionally, the 30% of Americans fool enough to believe this will still not be persuaded. Plus: why now, if not meant as some sort of distraction? It's like this was his last trump card (pun not intended). A shit-show all around.
Luck, I know you're down on Obama, but saying the Trump is , "right" about gas prices? Looks more Presidential?
I mean, I agree that Obama looks like he's letting the tail wag the dog. But, seriously- 'gas prices' is the ultimate red herring "presidential" issue. And, frankly, Trump has just looked sort of hysterical... I mean, I guess I'm just saying have SOME perspective.
Luck, I know you're down on Obama, but saying the Trump is , "right" about gas prices? Looks more Presidential?
I mean, I agree that Obama looks like he's letting the tail wag the dog. But, seriously- 'gas prices' is the ultimate red herring "presidential" issue. And, frankly, Trump has just looked sort of hysterical... I mean, I guess I'm just saying have SOME perspective.
Today Trump said Obama "should get off his basketball court."
So let's review what luck's new hero Trump is "right" about. Obama is probably a foreigner who was too stupid to get into Columbia or Harvard Law legitimately and he's just a lazy darkie who spends too much time shooting hoops. Probably with his bros.
Got it.
What's next from Trump? Watermelon talk? Saying he wants to know if "Barry" ever drove a Cadillac? Calling Michelle Obama the First Baby Mama?
Luck, I know you're down on Obama, but saying the Trump is , "right" about gas prices? Looks more Presidential?
I mean, I agree that Obama looks like he's letting the tail wag the dog. But, seriously- 'gas prices' is the ultimate red herring "presidential" issue. And, frankly, Trump has just looked sort of hysterical... I mean, I guess I'm just saying have SOME perspective.
Today Trump said Obama "should get off his basketball court."
So let's review what luck's new hero Trump is "right" about. Obama is probably a foreigner who was too stupid to get into Columbia or Harvard Law legitimately and he's just a lazy darkie who spends too much time shooting hoops. Probably with his bros.
Got it.
What's next from Trump? Watermelon talk? Saying he wants to know if "Barry" ever drove a Cadillac? Calling Michelle Obama the First Baby Mama?
I can't wait to see what he's "right" about next.
At least if he had said "should get off the Golf Course" it would have been hard to dispute.
Luck, I know you're down on Obama, but saying the Trump is , "right" about gas prices? Looks more Presidential?
I mean, I agree that Obama looks like he's letting the tail wag the dog. But, seriously- 'gas prices' is the ultimate red herring "presidential" issue. And, frankly, Trump has just looked sort of hysterical... I mean, I guess I'm just saying have SOME perspective.
Today Trump said Obama "should get off his basketball court."
So let's review what luck's new hero Trump is "right" about. Obama is probably a foreigner who was too stupid to get into Columbia or Harvard Law legitimately and he's just a lazy darkie who spends too much time shooting hoops. Probably with his bros.
Got it.
What's next from Trump? Watermelon talk? Saying he wants to know if "Barry" ever drove a Cadillac? Calling Michelle Obama the First Baby Mama?
I can't wait to see what he's "right" about next.
At least if he had said "should get off the Golf Course" it would have been hard to dispute.
The fucking hysteria of how the president spend their time drives me nuts- Republican and Democrat.
Frankly, I want the President to take an hour a day to clear his head. Like, if Bush is on the golf course, I'm fairly certain we're able to get word to him that something went wrong.
Obama let me down by not closing GTMO so I'm voting Trump / Palin 2012
Obama has let me down on a lot of issues, but giving an ounce of credibility and power to a large, walking pile of feces is just a stupid thing to do, politically or otherwise.
And I never said that I would vote for Donald Trump, even if the man obviously led Obama down the street on this individual issue. Apropos of nothing else, why the fuck would I vote for a man with a double comb-over?
This interview with Stephanopolous is so good. He fumbles the ball on the first play, talking about not protecting Saudi Arabian oil. I honestly think that corporate interests would have him assassinated if there was any chance he'd get nominated. There's no way they would allow anyone to fuck with the money.
And I just caught this "hero" stuff. Again, ojo: Trump is America at its worst. He is an execrable human being. He should not be referenced by politicians. I should not even be talking about him. But file this mistake of Obama's under "why you don't give the kids sugar" or "why we don't negotiate with terrorists" or "don't get the gremlin wet." In any of these cases, it's actually the parent's/adult's fault for walking down that road.
And I just caught this "hero" stuff. Again, ojo: Trump is America at its worst. He is an execrable human being. He should not be referenced by politicians. I should not even be talking about him. But file this mistake of Obama's under "why you don't give the kids sugar" or "why we don't negotiate with terrorists" or "don't get the gremlin wet." In any of these cases, it's actually the parent's/adult's fault for walking down that road.
Fair enough, but it doesn't matter. Releasing this new form hasn't even slowed down the Birther Express:
"Texas state legislator Leo Berman, a Republican, has introduced a bill that would require proof of citizenship from presidential candidates. It???s one of many such bills in the states. And according to Sharon Guthrie, Berman???s legislative director, the legislation is still needed and the long-form birth certificate released by the White House today does not satisfy its requirements.
???What I???ve seen online, what they produced today, still says certificate of live birth across the top,??? she told me. And she???s right.
But why isn???t that just a nomenclature issue? Why does it matter?
???We want to see a ???birth certificate,?????? Guthrie explained. ???The one that we have that says ???birth certificate??? is from Mombassa, Kenya, with his footprint on it. He has still not produced an American birth certificate."
I said earlier in the thread that Obama shouldn't cater to these morons because it was to his political advantage not to, but it turns out they're not going to go away and he still has that advantage.
I apologize for underestimating the stupidity of conservatives. It won't happen again.
I think it was the 25% of the independents that were the tipping point. But ,of course, all you Democrats were too blinded by manlove smart to be fooled. Again, explain to me how the ease of retrieving the document after years of speculation comports with your Obama trying his darndest to give the American people the shaft credit theory and not my cost benefit theory.
Why do you continue to think that it's difficult for the POTUS to obtain his own birth certficate? Where did Obama ever say "I'd to show you guys, but it's too hard to find."?
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Except he probably is:
http://www.slate.com/BLOGS/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/04/25/ron-paul-will-announced-presidential-exploratory-committee-tomorrow.aspx
The ease with which they obtained the documents demonstrates the extent to which the media, which has been feeding us a steady stream of excuses as to why Obama could not obtain the document, runs interference for this administration.
"In a New York Times/CBS poll released on Thursday, a 45% plurality of Republican adults said they believe Obama was not born in the U.S. Additionally, 33% said Obama was born in America, while 22% said they weren't sure".
This was Thursday, April 21, 2011.
So basically before today, 67% of Republicans either thought Obama was not born in America or weren't sure. You've got to be kidding me about reeling in the bait...have you seen the evidence prior to today? A certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii (which is what they issue to everyone who makes a request that is not in the form of a freedom of information request), newspaper birth announcements that came directly from the state department of health, and a former republican official stating that she saw the actual birth certificate.
A majority of republicans are ignorant, period. Don't make this out to be something it isn't. Obama tried to give credit to people's intelligence for as long as he could; it became too much of a distraction, so he silenced everyone - but probably not.
that was a mistake
republicans are either ignorant or cynical, I'll give saba the benefit of the doubt & assume he's the latter
I think it was the 25% of the independents that were the tipping point. But ,of course, all you Democrats were too
blinded by manlovesmart to be fooled. Again, explain to me how the ease of retrieving the document after years of speculation comports with your Obama trying his darndest to give the American peoplethe shaftcredit theory and not my cost benefit theory.He was able to sink even lower than a reality t.v. show.
Exactly. The ignorant assholes have already started in with talk about the "problems" with the certificate.
The Republican Party has crawled up its own ass and it likes the atmosphere, the scenery, and the cuisine there.
Enjoy your lunch.
Turds of a feather:
Agreed. What a stupid thing to do. Additionally, he looks like he's sweating the small stuff when he's got so much more to worry about. No person of any mental capacity actually doubted Obama's veracity on his birthplace, and it was the ultimate "my-opponents-are-batshit-crazy" foil. Now, it looks like Donald Fucking Trump can push our President around. And, true to form, Trump today quickly parlayed this into a "well, that's great, but how about those terrible gas prices?" discussion. And you know what? Donald Trump is right. Frankly, the latter has never looked more Presidential. I have so little respect left to lose for our actual President.
Additionally, the 30% of Americans fool enough to believe this will still not be persuaded. Plus: why now, if not meant as some sort of distraction? It's like this was his last trump card (pun not intended). A shit-show all around.
Also true. Palin, Trump, and Saba are 100% right on this issue.
:game_over:
This may be the most accurate thing you have ever posted.
I mean, I agree that Obama looks like he's letting the tail wag the dog. But, seriously- 'gas prices' is the ultimate red herring "presidential" issue. And, frankly, Trump has just looked sort of hysterical... I mean, I guess I'm just saying have SOME perspective.
Today Trump said Obama "should get off his basketball court."
So let's review what luck's new hero Trump is "right" about. Obama is probably a foreigner who was too stupid to get into Columbia or Harvard Law legitimately and he's just a lazy darkie who spends too much time shooting hoops. Probably with his bros.
Got it.
What's next from Trump? Watermelon talk? Saying he wants to know if "Barry" ever drove a Cadillac? Calling Michelle Obama the First Baby Mama?
I can't wait to see what he's "right" about next.
At least if he had said "should get off the Golf Course" it would have been hard to dispute.
The fucking hysteria of how the president spend their time drives me nuts- Republican and Democrat.
Frankly, I want the President to take an hour a day to clear his head. Like, if Bush is on the golf course, I'm fairly certain we're able to get word to him that something went wrong.
Come on, people... Ignore this BULLSHIT.
Obama has let me down on a lot of issues, but giving an ounce of credibility and power to a large, walking pile of feces is just a stupid thing to do, politically or otherwise.
And I never said that I would vote for Donald Trump, even if the man obviously led Obama down the street on this individual issue. Apropos of nothing else, why the fuck would I vote for a man with a double comb-over?
Fair enough, but it doesn't matter. Releasing this new form hasn't even slowed down the Birther Express:
"Texas state legislator Leo Berman, a Republican, has introduced a bill that would require proof of citizenship from presidential candidates. It???s one of many such bills in the states. And according to Sharon Guthrie, Berman???s legislative director, the legislation is still needed and the long-form birth certificate released by the White House today does not satisfy its requirements.
???What I???ve seen online, what they produced today, still says certificate of live birth across the top,??? she told me. And she???s right.
But why isn???t that just a nomenclature issue? Why does it matter?
???We want to see a ???birth certificate,?????? Guthrie explained. ???The one that we have that says ???birth certificate??? is from Mombassa, Kenya, with his footprint on it. He has still not produced an American birth certificate."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/04/27/birther-legislation-in-texas-still-a-go.aspx
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/27/joseph-farah-still-conspiratorial/
I said earlier in the thread that Obama shouldn't cater to these morons because it was to his political advantage not to, but it turns out they're not going to go away and he still has that advantage.
I apologize for underestimating the stupidity of conservatives. It won't happen again.
Why do you continue to think that it's difficult for the POTUS to obtain his own birth certficate? Where did Obama ever say "I'd to show you guys, but it's too hard to find."?
Please to enlighten us as to how much time Obama spends on the golf course.
I'm betting that if you're really interested it's easily found via Google.