That was really worth putting together.
Was the point of it to show that he can complete more than 1 game without getting injured??
Injured again?
Minor knock, it's hilarious isn't it.
Seriously doe, who the fuck are you. You don't seem to contribute anything of any worth to this site. And there are plenty of Arsenal forums out there for you to go and troll. This is not that place.
I'm happy enough to take your shit when Spurs beat us, that's fair game, but if you can't at least keep it to civil banter without acting like cunt, then I'll just be putting you ignore.
Didn't realize having an opinion was uncivilized.
How many people have I offended so far??
I don't recall coming in here saying anything when Tottenham beat Arsenal..I know enough about the history there not to speak on one game when there are others to come.
Didn't realize having an opinion was uncivilized.
How many people have I offended so far??
I don't recall coming in here saying anything when Tottenham beat Arsenal..I know enough about the history there not to speak on one game when there are others to come.
I don't see how trolling about a player getting injured is having an opinion.
But it's not about you being offensive.
This thread, and the group of people who regularly post in it, has come together over a fairly long period of time and I would hope that if/when someone wants to gloat or laugh about something that may be offensive, we've spent enough time 'together' to know it's just good natured banter. You just simply haven't earned that privilege yet (and I don't mean that in some bullshit elitist way, it's just the way it is).
Otherwise it could all to easily turn into the clusterfuck that are all too many of the football related boards. And this thread is about much more than football, so I wouldn't want it to degenerate down those lines.
well that sucked for me. took off work to meet an 'old friend' and all that too.
sad to say that most of the press will hate on the Arsenal defense as that is the easy target, but the inability to have a few opportunities on goal is really what did us in today.
I can live with fluke goals from time to time (good header by Park, but he gets that maybe 1 out of 25 times if he tries again), but i can't live with the likes of Arshavin/Nasri/RvP/Chamahk having almost no real shots on goal.
better team won today, that is what is true.
rather blah game though....Utd played pretty marginal too. Gotta wonder if playing in the frozen tundra of OT really provide for the best in sport.
It wasn't the best game between the two teams but neither team have found any consistent form they are capable of so far this season..
Be happy to see them both tank Chelsea in the next few weeks though..
Lovin' the Park hate. He was United's player of the month prior to this match (and a recent addition to my Fantasy team crucially). Unfortunately he's off to the Asian Cup for like 7 matches after Xmas which could be a problem, I guess there's Obertan's massive head to fill in for him and Valencia back soonish.
Like I said a few pages back, Park and Vidic are the Untied players I'd like to see at Arsenal. Last night prove this again.
Disappointing game. The only good thing to come out of it from an Arsenal point of view, was Wojciech proving once again he's going to be a great goalkeeper.
Man U did well. Soaked up pressure, looked to hit on the break, although most of the time it merely took a long ball down the middle to fluster our CBs who were much more comfortable snuffing out attacks along the deck.
Fab & Van Percy should've been on sooner really. Rosicky... never been the same since his injuries. Would rather Eboue was on the pitch. Song dawdles on the ball too often. Ditto Arshavin. Next year they'll be challenging...
Looks like the Xmas holidays are starting to hit. SHIT IS QUIET UP IN HERE.
So......
Roma v Shakhtar Donetsk AC Milan v Tottenham Hotspur Valencia v Schalke Inter Milan v Bayern Munich
Lyon v Real Madrid
Arsenal v Barcelona
Marseille v Manchester United
FC Copenhagen v Chelsea
A bit optimistic that Real Madrid will get beyond this round... but I'm sure even Jose is daring to dream.
Well, if you want to win it, someone has to beat Barca along the way. It's doable, Chelsea should have last time out, but I don't think Arsenal's current back 4 can keep them out for 90 minutes. And it can't be a "You score 3, we'll score 4" because they'll hold the ball until the end of time. Good luck doe.
Tevez will be playing on Monday. Im expecting a rooneyesq turnaround at some point soon...its not like he's going to get more money anywhere else! If not he'll be off to spain in january or more likely in the summer.
+1 to Doc for not playing the glaringly-obvious "Caaahm Zhown" card.
Good team on paper, LFC. I dunno why they are not clicking. I agree Joe Cole is not being played in his best position but not being a professional football manager with global experience (I believe Woy is) I may be wrong to listen to Stan Collymore and maybe the lads need to get their fingers out.
Tevez apparently wants out now because he wanted out if we finished 5th or worse last year - he's just been doing us a favour so far. It does appear a tad ungrateful when he whinged Un*ted weren't using him enough, so he's given the task of shouldering City every week, which he had a good run at, then whinging City haven't been good enough (with no regard to the gains made on the last thirty-whatever years past form).
I'd like him to stay, he's our best player, but I'd resent any badge-kissing after this. Really want Mario to knuckle down; once 100% dedicated, him and Adebayor/Jo would suffice if Tevez slung his hook for the nth time.
+1 to Doc for not playing the glaringly-obvious "Caaahm Zhown" card.
Good team on paper, LFC. I dunno why they are not clicking. I agree Joe Cole is not being played in his best position but not being a professional football manager with global experience (I believe Woy is) I may be wrong to listen to Stan Collymore and maybe the lads need to get their fingers out.
Tevez apparently wants out now because he wanted out if we finished 5th or worse last year - he's just been doing us a favour so far. It does appear a tad ungrateful when he whinged Un*ted weren't using him enough, so he's given the task of shouldering City every week, which he had a good run at, then whinging City haven't been good enough (with no regard to the gains made on the last thirty-whatever years past form).
I'd like him to stay, he's our best player, but I'd resent any badge-kissing after this. Really want Mario to knuckle down; once 100% dedicated, him and Adebayor/Jo would suffice if Tevez slung his hook for the nth time.
I don't think Tevez has been helped by playing a number of games as a lone striker..it took a long time for Mancini to realize that it wasn't working well enough..
He misses his daughters, thinks the wife will move to Spain to be near him..then you hear he was in Tenerife with his girlfriend over the weekend?? The story seems to be changing too much.
I believe Joorbichain or whatever he is called has a lot to do with it..like he hasn't made enough money off Carlos.
He misses his daughters, thinks the wife will move to Spain to be near him..then you hear he was in Tenerife with his girlfriend over the weekend?? The story seems to be changing too much.
His wife and kids moved back to Argentina when he started knobbing some 19-yr old over here (IIRC - vrai gossip mongers to correct me on this?).
The domestic problem is entirely of his own making and Saddam Hussein would still be alive if he'd been cut as much slack as Citeh have given El Apache. He's already the highest-paid player in the prem, according to some sources.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
Paul said:
Konchesky ain't that bad for a start
I can't comment on the Newcastle game, because I was out of the country and didn't see it, but we've conceded a disproportionate amount of goals on the left this season, and they've all been Konchesky's fault. He's a useless fucking lump, and if it weren't for the fact our only other recognised left back is made of biscuits, I could see no reason for him ever to wear a Liverpool shirt again. When Hodgson makes smirking remarks about how it's not "his" squad, it's funny how he neglects to mention that this season's most consistently bad squad member - one who, oddly enough, has had the most starts after Gerrard, Reina and Carragher - is a player he signed. Sadly, I fear that, for as long as one or the other of them is there, we'll be stuck with both.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
J i m s t e r said:
Here's one; who is the best LFC player you've seen? I recall as a kid watching them put it up the Euroman sides under Shanks and Paisley.
Keegan for me. Stevie G has been brilliant, but KK had more charisma, pin-up hair, and could make eye-contact.
Dalglish, no contest. Keegan was great, as was Roger Hunt before him and Rush, Barnes and Beardsley after. Dalglish, however, was a great manager as well, so he trumps 'em all.
My brother was a fully paid-up member of the Kevin Keegan Fan Club. Membership card, signed 10x8 of the man, the lot. He even bought the singles, including this one, now somewhat raer;
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The wit and wisdom of Roy Hodgson.
4 July: "I like a high-tempo passing game"
All the things I???ve always liked are the things Liverpool were famous for in their heyday. Pass and move, always move it quickly and once you lose it get back in to position. That was the mantra which took Liverpool through their great years. I like a high-tempo passing game. I like players to work hard, I like players to get back in position. Those are my principles. I was influenced by the Liverpool team which dominated the 70s with all its great players and playing the football they played.
5 August: "Look into the mirror rather than look for excuses elsewhere" (On player complaints about squad quality)
As a player you have a chance to change things. If you don't think the team is doing as well as it should, as a player you can do something about it. If you are a big player, maybe you will. My attitude is that we want our big players because they will help the team to win. Now if they are not playing well and not helping the team to win, I will be advising them to look into the mirror rather than look for excuses elsewhere and blame the owners for not having spent ??500m.
9 September: "Unbelievably overstaffed" (After beating West Brom)
We were unbelievably over-staffed when I came to the club and, if the truth be known, we still are over-staffed. It was just as big a job making sure some of the players who never feature for the first team move on and that we limit our squad to players who are either in the frame to play first-team football or who have a bright future who are still anxious to play academy and reserve team football.
9 September: "He's a good player and he's the right man for the job" (On Konchesky)
There aren't many quality left-backs around in the world, never mind in England - so to find an English one who can go straight into the team without any adjustment problems is a big advantage. He is a player I know, a player I have worked with and he knows the way we try to play and the things we try to do. That's another little advantage, but the main reason for bringing him here is because we think he's a good player and he's the right man for the job.
10 September: "We'll have ample quality to see us through" (see also 30 October)
I preferred to put my weight behind David Ngog and Ryan Babel, who's never really been given a proper chance at centre-forward at the club. We have Fernando Torres, we have good players who can play behind a lone striker. I'm hoping that between now and Christmas we'll have ample quality to see us through that period. And in the meantime we have chance to do thorough scouting so that if the money is available, we could look into the situation again. I will be using David Ngog and Ryan Babel in certain games to give Fernando Torres a rest and it's up to them to prove to me that there's no need to look further than them.
20 September: "It is very early for me to make very strong judgments about where his best position is" (On Meireles)
He had two training sessions and played on Thursday night and he played again on Sunday so it is very early for me to make very strong judgments about where his best position is. The work we do on the training field will show me how best to use him. He actually went out wide right late in the United game and did okay there also. All I can say is he has a lot of qualities and I'm sure we'll get a lot of use out of him.
23 September: "These players have to accept responsibility" (After the defeat to Northampton)
These players have to accept responsibility. I accept responsibility for changing a lot of players in the team, I did it because I honestly thought the players I put on the field were good enough to win the game and they weren't. The obvious conclusion to that was I shouldn't have changed that many players but we should have been strong enough to get a result. We must all take our responsibility. I am just bitterly disappointed that the team I had so much faith in did not repay that faith this evening with the exception of one or two performances.
24 September: "The protest does not help"
The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club. I, like everyone else at Liverpool, would be very happy if the ownership situation was clarified and in particular if we got a very good owner that could help us move forward. It is a major issue for a group of people who are very much anti the owners and anti the current people who are trying to solve the situation. I knew the situation existed before I arrived and it doesn't help. But it is often the case that when things are conspiring against you there is always an extra thing to come in and make it that little bit worse.
25 September: ???I didn't think it was necessary to say it" (On not responding to the Torres "diving" accusations, six days prior)
I didn't think it was necessary to say it because it was insulting people's intelligence. For me, it was one of Alex's inflammatory little digs to make his victory even sweeter and our defeat even harder and that's part of the game
3 October: "From Halmstad to Malmo to Orebro to Neuchatel Xamax..."
What do you mean do my methods translate? They have translated from Halmstad to Malmo to Orebro to Neuchatel Xamax to the Swiss national team. So I find the question insulting. To suggest that, because I have moved from one club to another, that the methods which have stood me in good stead for 35 years and made me one of the most respected coaches in Europe don???t suddenly work, is very hard to believe.
3 October: "I don't understand questions about Liverpool and Fulham players being different types"
I don't understand questions about Liverpool and Fulham players being different types. At the moment arguably one or two of the players that are suggested as being very different to the Fulham players maybe aren't playing any better than the Fulham players played. So maybe people should be having a look at that.
18 October: "As good as we have played all season" (After the woeful loss to Everton)
That was as good as we have played all season, and I have no qualms with the performance whatsoever. I only hope fair-minded people will see it the same way.
21 October: "We will cross that bridge when we come to it" (On rumours of Torres to Manchester United)
I think we will cross that bridge when we come to it. There will always be speculation. When a great player like Wayne Rooney is looking to leave his club, then you know Manchester United will be in a position to target a lot of players around the world. I don't think Fernando will be the only striker they target - and I don't think we will be the only club worried that their striker is in their sights. I am not naive enough to believe that there won't be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres. I understand these things can happen. I don't believe we will lose him.
29 October: "It's all to do with how good your scouting and your eye is"
I think you can pay an awful lot of money for poor players and you can pay not very much money for very good ones ??? it is all to do with how good your scouting and your eye is. There are a lot of things here that the club has got to get right. We have got a lot more expensive failures on our list than good players that we have brought in for next to nothing. Free transfers don???t necessarily mean that you have got a bargain. My experience of them has been very mixed. You need to be sure that the player you get can do the job you want from him.
30 October: "They can't all be wrong and we aren't that stupid either"
A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel ???doing a job??? up front when they are primarily wide players. ...The first thing people say when I walk down the street is ???We need a front player???. They can't all be wrong and we aren't that stupid either.
30 October: "That's what he's good at" (On Dalglish)
He is doing a great job alongside us and we involve him in our scouting while he still works at The Academy and plays an ambassadorial role. That's what he's good at.
31 October: "A famous victory" (1-0 at Bolton)
Today was a famous victory because we hadn???t won more than once away in the whole of 2010. When you???re down the bottom, and keep being reminded you???re down the bottom, anxiety kicks in.
31 October: "He was here in name but not allowed to set foot in Melwood"
When they wanted me for the job, I made it clear to Kenny that he would be with me - not like with Benitez, when he was here in name but not allowed to set foot in Melwood and it was 'we don't want anything to do with you
12 November: "He's not that bad on the ball"
Unfortunately I can't do anything about the fans, but he's (Poulsen) had one or two games in front of our crowd where he's not played well and he knows he hasn't. He is devastated by that and the crowd, who aren't stupid, know he's not played well. It's a fact of life. He can only keep working hard and when he gets his chance he has to get on with his job. He had a job to do against Wigan and without his introduction, with a very tired Maxi Rodr??guez and Dirk Kuyt, who knows we could even have lost the game. But he's got quality, he's a good defensive midfield player. He's not that bad on the ball, but let's not beat about the bush and try to disguise the fact ??? he's had a bad start.
13 November: "He's not performed -- very often at least -- to the level I'd expect of him"
(Johnson) is the England right-back and, if he plays like that, one would expect him to come back in when he's fit. But then he'd have to play like the England right-back and up to now, to be quite frank, he's not performed - very often at least - to the level I'd expect of him. You would have to ask him 'do you think you're playing at top form and are you playing like the best right-back in the country for your club?' If he says yes, obviously we will have to agree to differ and if he says no, then you'd have to ask the question 'why not?
14 November: "I didn't realise I had been accused of criticising him"
It amazes me that when you make a statement of such obvious veracity people want to make headlines out of it. Everyone is saying what I am saying. I hope I am honest and I hope the players are honest. I didn't realise I had been accused of criticising him; I don't normally criticise my players and I'm sorry if that has been suggested.
26 November: "We won't need to do too much in the January transfer window" (After beating West Ham)
I have a very clear picture now of what we should and need to be doing and the squad is stronger and getting stronger. It was probably stronger than I realised at certain stages in the early part of the season when we were losing games. Hopefully that will mean we won't need to do too much in the January transfer window
2 December: "He isn't a naturally confident character" (As Joe Cole returns from injury)
He isn't a naturally confident character. He suffers when things are not going his way. Everyone at the club has worked hard to make sure he doesn't take it too hard and take too much on himself, because he's quite happy to take responsibility. Sometimes those players can take too much on themselves and push themselves even further down.
9 December: "I don't know where the stories came from" (After Brukner said Gerrard could be fit, on 30 November)
I don't know where the stories came from that Gerrard would be fit for Newcastle. We have always been thinking he would be fit to face Fulham the following weekend, it would be much too early to consider him for Newcastle.
10 December: "He has been the first to recognise what a good job it was that we didn???t do these things" (On not letting Babel, Lucas et al leave)
Christian (Purslow) was here for two years and is a big fan with strong opinions about players. He fed me the information. I listened, of course, but made it clear I was not going to act on it. To be fair, when we???ve spoken or texted he has been the first to recognise what a good job it was that we didn???t do these things, because the boys have turned out well.
14 December: "Unless there is a major influx of cash into the club..." (After losing to Newcastle)
Unless there is a major influx of cash into the club and the team is going to be changed from one moment to the next, then whoever takes my place will be doing a similar job with similar players.
14 December: "I can't work harder and I can't work better"
The owners have made it perfectly clear they are in it for the long term. They realise it is going to take time. They realise we can't turn things round overnight and they also realise the team I am working with is not the team I put together. It [the speculation] doesn't bother me because I can't do more than I am doing. I can't work harder and I can't work better.
15 December: "A bunch of also-rans" (After announcing Torres would start against Utrecht)
I don't know if I would have considered using Fernando had David Ngog been fit. But he isn't and, having had a chat with Fernando, I think he'll enjoy it. It's not as if he'll be playing with a bunch of also-rans. I'm not asking him to play in the reserves.
15 December: "They made me see sense" (After Torres failed to start against Utrecht)
I thought it would be a nice game for him (Torres) and a chance for him to get his confidence back. But I also had a talk to our fitness people and they made me see sense that it wasn't the wisest thing to do. And of course it would be very bad for us if he picked up an injury. The same applied to Pepe Reina. They made me see sense, I listened to the reason around me and I changed my mind.
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Minor knock, it's hilarious isn't it.
Seriously doe, who the fuck are you. You don't seem to contribute anything of any worth to this site. And there are plenty of Arsenal forums out there for you to go and troll. This is not that place.
I'm happy enough to take your shit when Spurs beat us, that's fair game, but if you can't at least keep it to civil banter without acting like cunt, then I'll just be putting you ignore.
How many people have I offended so far??
I don't recall coming in here saying anything when Tottenham beat Arsenal..I know enough about the history there not to speak on one game when there are others to come.
But it's not about you being offensive.
This thread, and the group of people who regularly post in it, has come together over a fairly long period of time and I would hope that if/when someone wants to gloat or laugh about something that may be offensive, we've spent enough time 'together' to know it's just good natured banter. You just simply haven't earned that privilege yet (and I don't mean that in some bullshit elitist way, it's just the way it is).
Otherwise it could all to easily turn into the clusterfuck that are all too many of the football related boards. And this thread is about much more than football, so I wouldn't want it to degenerate down those lines.
sad to say that most of the press will hate on the Arsenal defense as that is the easy target, but the inability to have a few opportunities on goal is really what did us in today.
I can live with fluke goals from time to time (good header by Park, but he gets that maybe 1 out of 25 times if he tries again), but i can't live with the likes of Arshavin/Nasri/RvP/Chamahk having almost no real shots on goal.
better team won today, that is what is true.
rather blah game though....Utd played pretty marginal too. Gotta wonder if playing in the frozen tundra of OT really provide for the best in sport.
Be happy to see them both tank Chelsea in the next few weeks though..
Where will he end up at Barca? Real? Milan??
Disappointing game. The only good thing to come out of it from an Arsenal point of view, was Wojciech proving once again he's going to be a great goalkeeper.
Fab & Van Percy should've been on sooner really. Rosicky... never been the same since his injuries. Would rather Eboue was on the pitch. Song dawdles on the ball too often. Ditto Arshavin. Next year they'll be challenging...
So......
Roma v Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan v Tottenham Hotspur
Valencia v Schalke
Inter Milan v Bayern Munich
Lyon v Real Madrid
Arsenal v Barcelona
Marseille v Manchester United
FC Copenhagen v Chelsea
A bit optimistic that Real Madrid will get beyond this round... but I'm sure even Jose is daring to dream.
Chelsea, Un*ted should make last 8 no drama.
I have sold him.
Strange season, no-one in any position doing the biz week-in, week-out.
Konchesky ain't that bad for a start but I'm not suprised that he's lumped in with Woy for some hatteration.
I don't mind a bit of gentle Scouser poking :pasue: but she took that shit way too far.
He must have the most different clubs of anyone who has played in the Premier league..
Charlton,West Ham,Tottenham,Fulham and now Liverpool??
Good team on paper, LFC. I dunno why they are not clicking. I agree Joe Cole is not being played in his best position but not being a professional football manager with global experience (I believe Woy is) I may be wrong to listen to Stan Collymore and maybe the lads need to get their fingers out.
Tevez apparently wants out now because he wanted out if we finished 5th or worse last year - he's just been doing us a favour so far. It does appear a tad ungrateful when he whinged Un*ted weren't using him enough, so he's given the task of shouldering City every week, which he had a good run at, then whinging City haven't been good enough (with no regard to the gains made on the last thirty-whatever years past form).
I'd like him to stay, he's our best player, but I'd resent any badge-kissing after this. Really want Mario to knuckle down; once 100% dedicated, him and Adebayor/Jo would suffice if Tevez slung his hook for the nth time.
I don't think Tevez has been helped by playing a number of games as a lone striker..it took a long time for Mancini to realize that it wasn't working well enough..
He misses his daughters, thinks the wife will move to Spain to be near him..then you hear he was in Tenerife with his girlfriend over the weekend?? The story seems to be changing too much.
I believe Joorbichain or whatever he is called has a lot to do with it..like he hasn't made enough money off Carlos.
Keegan for me. Stevie G has been brilliant, but KK had more charisma, pin-up hair, and could make eye-contact.
His wife and kids moved back to Argentina when he started knobbing some 19-yr old over here (IIRC - vrai gossip mongers to correct me on this?).
The domestic problem is entirely of his own making and Saddam Hussein would still be alive if he'd been cut as much slack as Citeh have given El Apache. He's already the highest-paid player in the prem, according to some sources.
I can't comment on the Newcastle game, because I was out of the country and didn't see it, but we've conceded a disproportionate amount of goals on the left this season, and they've all been Konchesky's fault. He's a useless fucking lump, and if it weren't for the fact our only other recognised left back is made of biscuits, I could see no reason for him ever to wear a Liverpool shirt again. When Hodgson makes smirking remarks about how it's not "his" squad, it's funny how he neglects to mention that this season's most consistently bad squad member - one who, oddly enough, has had the most starts after Gerrard, Reina and Carragher - is a player he signed. Sadly, I fear that, for as long as one or the other of them is there, we'll be stuck with both.
Dalglish, no contest. Keegan was great, as was Roger Hunt before him and Rush, Barnes and Beardsley after. Dalglish, however, was a great manager as well, so he trumps 'em all.
My brother was a fully paid-up member of the Kevin Keegan Fan Club. Membership card, signed 10x8 of the man, the lot. He even bought the singles, including this one, now somewhat raer;
A close 2nd (charisma-R)
First name I thought of..
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