~Do People Still Collect Library Records?~

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  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    The library dudes have yet to make their case that library records are a gold mine of great music. I don't doubt that they could be but dudes need to start putting together definitive lists and comps and what have you. No funky stuff, though--that's too easy, superficially appealing, and ultimately unsatisfying.

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    b,121The library dudes have yet to make their case that library records are a gold mine of great music. I don't doubt that they could be but dudes need to start putting together definitive lists and comps and what have you. No funky stuff, though--that's too easy, superficially appealing, and ultimately unsatisfying.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Forget comps and mixes!b,121b,121What I would like to see is a href="http://www.reynaldo82.com" target="_blank"1a website featuring massive scans of front and back covers and center labels and no further information whatsoever/a1.b,121b,121I can think of no more effective way to make the case that library records are a goldmine of great music.b,121b,121b,121* URL Fixed

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    b,121The library dudes have yet to make their case that library records are a gold mine of great music. I don't doubt that they could be but dudes need to start putting together definitive lists and comps and what have you. No funky stuff, though--that's too easy, superficially appealing, and ultimately unsatisfying.
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    b,121Forget comps and mixes!
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    b,121What I would like to see is
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    font class="post"1b,121If the website creator's taste was as unassailable as the taste of the creator of the above-linked site, it would indeed be an invaluable resource, with all records pictured being assumed hot by association.

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    b,121i owned one library record in my life. some Conroy LP. one song was dope. the rest was ehhhh.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,12180% of rare groove records would fit with this statement..b,121b,121Library is just the reflect of this.

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
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    b,121i owned one library record in my life. some Conroy LP. one song was dope. the rest was ehhhh.
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    b,12180% of rare groove records would fit with this statement..
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    b,121Library is just the reflect of this.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121What he said. Good libraries are few, but when good, they are real good, or involve one REALLY good track. I got into librariez real late in the game, and I'm mad picky about what I buy, but some can be phenomenal. I've liked:b,121Colours of Rhythm 5b,121KPM Drama (good for the majority of the record)b,121KPM Piano Viberations (one really great track)b,121I've liked a lotta French and Italian libraries I've heard, but they always go for too much loot.b,121Some can be really good spins, but since they are often themed, they can also be very corny, and I think this theme thing is the best and worst aspect of library music creation.

  • twoplytwoply Only Built 4 Manzanita Links 2,917 Posts
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    b,121I'm just saying, most of the folks who collect libraries these days reside over there.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I'm pretty sure those guys are strictly into Italian libraries, which, as far as I can tell, are little more than esoteric collections of elevator music.

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    There are only 3 dudes in the entire world intob,121libraries, and all three hang out on Waxidermy.

  • spivyspivy 866 Posts
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    b,121i owned one library record in my life. some Conroy LP. one song was dope. the rest was ehhhh.
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    b,12180% of rare groove records would fit with this statement..
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    b,121Library is just the reflect of this.
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    font class="post"1b,121i completely agree. i still collect library records. 90% of my library records might only be good for 1 or 2 songs but those 1 or 2 songs are great. i also nerd the F*ck out to soundtracks so the library sound works for me.

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    b,121Library-sampled rap is boring as shit.
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    b,121Alchemist might have to take issue with that statement.
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    b,121For real though, I happen to like beats with "mad drama loops," but I will admit that that whole vibe is pretty passe. Kinda like "jazz beatz." Shit is over like them leather front pullovers.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121until it all comes full circle again. which all things do. b,121b,121 de la soul screaming take them pumas, doo rags, shell toes, cazals OFFFFF.....b,121b,121take them dick pants, stupid hoody, xtra medium t shirt, new era cap OFFFFFF....

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
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    b,121There are only 3 dudes in the entire world into
    b,121libraries, and all three hang out on Waxidermy.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121This is completely true.b,121b,121And they're all named Dave.

  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
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    b,121I'm just saying, most of the folks who collect libraries these days reside over there.
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    b,121I'm pretty sure those guys are strictly into Italian libraries, which, as far as I can tell, are little more than esoteric collections of elevator music.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121haha! yeah, I've gathered that those guys are mostly into the ambient electronica and "cinematic jazz" (I still don't know what that means) type libraries. I'm not sure too many of them are wild about the beatdawg MOODY DRAMA STABZ variety.

  • shitzrshitzr 648 Posts
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    b,121Stop N Cop
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121his auctions were fresh as hell. when he had those chicks hold the records up under their boobs in the auction pic was img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oj.gif" alt="" 21b,121b,121what's green tea up to nowadays?

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    As a resident of a country not known for it's prolific amount of hidden stacks of soul and funk, library records offered another means of finding breaks yo etc back in the day. However I would be forced to admit that I could probably count the amount that weren't one or two trackers on the fingers of one hand.

  • I don't think i'm "collecting library records"b,121b,121I'm collecting the discogs of Parker, Moorhouse, Umiliani, Bennett, Porte, Pearson, Dankworth, Hawkshaw and so on and so onb,121b,121less about the library. more about the music.

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    UK Library music is 40 year old guys called Len and Brian with sideburns like burnt toast, nipping down to Denmark Street caffs for a mug of builder's tea and 20 Piccadilly in between knocking out endless reams of precise and unpretentious bossas and euphoric lounge with killer melodies in the 60s and 70s.b,121b,121French library music is 40 year old guys called Bernard and Daniel with floppy fringes immersing themselves in Left Bank philosophy and starvation in between knocking out endless reams of jerky psyche and floaty jazz with killer melodies in the 60s and 70s.b,121b,121Italian library music is 40 year old guys called Piero and Marc with close crops and moody shades swaggering down sunlit piazzas hollering at fly bellas in between knocking out endless reams of string laden cinematic jazz and tight funk with killer melodies in the 60s and 70s.b,121b,121It's all good, nothing bad.b,121One great thing about libraries that never gets mentioned in the track titles - almost exclusively short, inventive, evocative and playful.b,121b,121There's a hundred great library comps.b,121There's a thousand great one-trackers in the library canon.b,121There's a much smaller subset of libraries with 2+ great tracks.b,121b,121Just like all music genres really.b,121b,121Just my tuppence.

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    b,121UK Library music is 40 year old guys called Len and Brian with sideburns like burnt toast, nipping down to Denmark Street caffs for a mug of builder's tea and 20 Piccadilly in between knocking out endless reams of precise and unpretentious bossas and euphoric lounge with killer melodies in the 60s and 70s.
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    b,121French library music is 40 year old guys called Bernard and Daniel with floppy fringes immersing themselves in Left Bank philosophy and starvation in between knocking out endless reams of jerky psyche and floaty jazz with killer melodies in the 60s and 70s.
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    b,121Italian library music is 40 year old guys called Piero and Marc with close crops and moody shades swaggering down sunlit piazzas hollering at fly bellas in between knocking out endless reams of string laden cinematic jazz and tight funk with killer melodies in the 60s and 70s.
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    b,121It's all good, nothing bad.
    b,121One great thing about libraries that never gets mentioned in the track titles - almost exclusively short, inventive, evocative and playful.
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    b,121There's a hundred great library comps.
    b,121There's a thousand great one-trackers in the library canon.
    b,121There's a much smaller subset of libraries with 2+ great tracks.
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    b,121Just like all music genres really.
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    b,121Just my tuppence.
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  • inVrsinVrs 687 Posts
    i dont collect library records, but some of them aint that bad. b,121i must admit that i mainly buy stuff like "underwater vol2" just for sampling reasons. and no - no breakbeats on there. just weird synth shit.

  • youd have to be retarded (Wasssupnate!!!!!) to diss a whole category of music. id be buying more libraries if i saw them cheap. i got mad jaz,rock,soul with just one good cut, or half a good cut....so a library record with a thorough song like scrabble, softwind or shady blues (all turned in to bangin hiphop too) definitely gets listened to around here and gets love. b,121b,121ive never heard either of the afrorock joints , but id love to.b,121b,121yall need to img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puto-new.gif" alt="" 21

  • I've got mostly Italian libraries and soundtracks. I just want to tell you my interest into them has raised up because this is music for pictures, "cinematic" music and there is no difference between a library or a soundtrack from this point of view. Many times covers are really cool too as to graphics btw. It's a kind of obscure and mysterious world and the experience of discovering it is pretty exciting! Music is surprisingly various, it may be bossa, lounge, dark electronics, industrial abstract sounds, furiously funky and killer and refinedly soul with wonderful wordless vocals, also psychedelic!b,121Some pictures can inspire your curiosityb,121b,121b,121img src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc98/fraykerbreaks/suonando.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2526/dickyoliveroj6.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.italiansoundtracks.com/images/400/beatmacchina.gif"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7623/vacanzehm2.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i33.tinypic.com/2s0zbps.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.italiansoundtracks.com/images/400/cinevoxgaslini2.gif"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.popsike.com/pix/20070723/220133507354.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i17.tinypic.com/2n71f6e.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/608/loradelcocktailtk2.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/davesrecords55/aa1009.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i30.tinypic.com/1znpd1u.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.popsike.com/pix/20050720/4749973472.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/davesrecords55/nwt2003.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i26.tinypic.com/2hdqv80.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i26.tinypic.com/2v35u9w.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i26.tinypic.com/2v9zvp5.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3494/easylisteninggroupfc5.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i25.tinypic.com/2qmqj51.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i30.tinypic.com/21b907a.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1097/frontcoverto8.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i10.tinypic.com/63caff5.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.popsike.com/pix/20061024/190044438369.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2109/thepsychegroundgroupfrozq5.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.popsike.com/pix/20071004/330172974004.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/davesrecords55/flp110.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i20.tinypic.com/332xlaf.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://www.popsike.com/pix/20060331/4858517070.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i15.tinypic.com/5zqdz42.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i14.tinypic.com/62ia54k.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/MoogMan/relax-1.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://i18.tinypic.com/49j0m6r.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2859/montecarlosm5001az0.jpg"1b, 21b, 21img src="http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9871/cometaviolencepw7.gif"1

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    Please send all of those to me. I'll pay for the postage from Italy.

  • img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/funnypost.gif" alt="" /1 Not so lucky to have got all of them, only a very few of them, bro'. Basically this is another big problem: the super rarity of this stuff. Most of the master audio reels are lost or over-recorded. This is my answer to a guy asking me if I have ever found the soudtrack of the Italian poliziottesco "Roma a mano armata" by Franco Micalizzi.b, 21b, 21"If you look at the starting titles of the movie, you'll see this score has been issued on edizioni musicali Clitumno. Well, as a collector of Italian libraries and soundtracks of 60s-70s-80s, I NEVER found this release.b, 21b, 21img src="http://i36.tinypic.com/2mdjxb8.jpg"1b, 21b, 21Obviously you understand this was maybe a micro press for a promo or a very very few number of copies, whose potential owner should get a lost huge treasure for vinyls market today for sure.b, 21Moreover, my guess is that some tracks, taken from this score, have been reissued onto other soundtracks for other movies by Umberto Lenzi. For example, now we know that at least three tracks have been comped from "Roma a mano armata" into today poliziotteschi CD compilations such as "Piombo rovente", etc.b, 21These tracks are "Tensione notturna", "Affanno" and "Roma a mano" armata for sure. Also "Il cinico, l'infame e il violento" AKA "Violence" OST has a particular story. This score has been issued by Cometa label without consulting Micalizzi and using tracks from other scores by the composer, such as "Affanno" by the way, the last track, taken directly from "Roma a mano armata".b,121Filippo De Masi, maestro Francesco De Masi's son, on Beat records forum wrote his father kept not more than 50 audio reels of his soundtrack music and the remaining ones are lost forever because the problem is that such kind of music wasn't considered so worthy at that past time. One of the most important Italian catalogue, the National music one, has been totally lost because the old patron of Nazional music, in order to save his money, has used the impressed audio reels of the previous movie again to overwrite it with the music of the following one. That's the reason why 1000 scores about, whose catalogue has been actually recorded, cannot be pressed on vinyl, except the lucky cases when the author kept a copy of his music. Moreover, that infamous boss of National music catalogue sold not for cheap those audio reels to their authors, so the musicians weren't always ready to spend a lot of money to buy their own music... This is the real condition of one of the most important catalogue and now we can understand how hard is the research of these lost treasures into dusty old underground archives, sometimes audio technicians of that period come and bring to light unknown recordings...You know, hope is the last thing to die, so recently I've found that "Innerspace", a super rare score by the great Sven Libaek has been reissued using an "old" 70s original vinyl as a matrixb,121/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121The original Inner Space master tapes are long gone. Presumably lost or perhaps destroyed. Because of this the transfer is taken directly from a vinyl copy. It has been carefully restored and enhanced by one of Melbourne's top mastering engineers and sounds fantasticb, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121This technology, when more available and accessible as to costs, will be able to reissue all the records / soundtracks / libraries whose original reels have been destroyed / lost".b, 21b, 212 The Non:b,121PM me if you wish some snippets.

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  • goatboygoatboy 371 Posts
    Quidtum is one of the "Daves" mentioned above.b,121Get familiar!b, 21b, 21Great collection of covers Q!b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oj.gif" alt="" /1

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  • MoogManMoogMan Sao Paulo, Brazil 1,173 Posts
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