What if a pharmacist believes in the sanctity of viruses? Does that mean that he or she can abstain from doling out antibiotics? How about AIDS medication?b,121b,121Look: a pharmacist is a glorified valet in a lab coat. Just get me my damn car, and don't tell me that I should walk instead.
Maybe they see the need for more soldiers in the not so distant future? Palin's daughter already did her part, so should very teenager. Having a baby might also keep them from getting wrong ideas.b,121b,121It's pretty damn crazy what your country is about to come to...b,121b,121Good luck for Novermber 4th! Good luck to all of us, I mean.
Quote:h,121b,121if they made BC for dudes, i would fusk with it. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121It's called a rubber, dude. Unless you have unconditional trust in the opposite sex, I would recommend fusking with it ONLY until you and the wife/domestic partner are ready to plan a family.
As a married dude (and thus not worried about viruses), I'd take a BC pill for men if it existed. My wife gets tired of having to be the one to be responsible for it and I don't blame her but I'm not trying to get my tubes tied any more than she is.
Quote:h,121b,121As a married dude (and thus not worried about viruses), I'd take a BC pill for men if it existed. My wife gets tired of having to be the one to be responsible for it and I don't blame her but I'm not trying to get my tubes tied any more than she is. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121My point is that male birth control exists, and they are called condoms. You can even get 'em free lots of places!b,121b,121And I thought there was an injection a male could take that was similar to a birth control pill. Maybe I am imagining things.
Quote:h,121b,121As a married dude (and thus not worried about viruses), I'd take a BC pill for men if it existed. My wife gets tired of having to be the one to be responsible for it and I don't blame her but I'm not trying to get my tubes tied any more than she is. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121My point is that male birth control exists, and they are called condoms. You can even get 'em free lots of places!b,121b,121And I thought there was an injection a male could take that was similar to a birth control pill. Maybe I am imagining things. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121wtf, i knew condoms existedb,121also, during the many many [manymanymany] times i have had the pleasure of engaging in sexual intercourse with the opposite sex, I have found my preference to be that of coitus sans condom.b,121b,121if a pill/injection/suppository offered me the option of shooting the batter without risk of another child, i would gladly swallow/inject/shove up ass.
Quote:h,121b,121As a married dude (and thus not worried about viruses), I'd take a BC pill for men if it existed. My wife gets tired of having to be the one to be responsible for it and I don't blame her but I'm not trying to get my tubes tied any more than she is. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121My point is that male birth control exists, and they are called condoms. You can even get 'em free lots of places!b,121b,121And I thought there was an injection a male could take that was similar to a birth control pill. Maybe I am imagining things. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121There is but it's not that popular mostly b/c the shot is into your scrotum.b,121b,121b,121b,121
b,121b,121b,121obviousllllly, you dont take the pill b,121b,121Some BC's out there help lowers risk for certain endometrial and ovarian cancers, etc...b,121b,121it is also proven to help strengthen womens bones,and possibly could even prevent rheumatoid arthritis.b,121b,121b,121it just seems weird to me, when there are some *other* benefits to it, the only "benefit" these people see is, wait, more people getting pregnant?!b,121b,121Some birth control is used not just for prevention of pregnancy, but also to regulate some complications a woman may have. And...what is sooo wrong with that? :eyeroll:
^^^b,121a lot of young women find that birth control pills help regulate an irregular menstrual cycle. my former roommate had problems after she quit gymnastics and her body went through some weird phase. my cousin had an irregular cycle, and her freshman year at college, had ended up having some type of cyst. her doc prescribed the pill to prevent something or other. i guess in her case it's not for birth control, but for medical reasons. still.
Quote:h,121b,121As a married dude (and thus not worried about viruses), I'd take a BC pill for men if it existed. My wife gets tired of having to be the one to be responsible for it and I don't blame her but I'm not trying to get my tubes tied any more than she is. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Oliver are you saying you would never get a vasectomy? I have to say that if you're done having children it's absolutely the way to go. Done wonders for me and the Mrs. Plus, If you do it during football season you get to watch a games for a whole weekend uninterrupted while you are icing the johnson.
And you won't have to go through the battery of psychological tests women do when they want to do the same...
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Quote:h,121b,121So the same people trying to ban birth control and they instead deciding to beef up childcare? Improve wages so parents can provide for the child? Improve schools for these kids? b,121b,121b,121didn't think so. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Pro-lifers are only pro-life before the baby is born. Once that happens, you're on your own. It's pro-, not quality-of-, remember.
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are making way more out of this than it is...as does the article.b,121b,121As someone said, I think the issue is surrounding the "morning after" pill, as what it does could be seen as an abortion. The legislation, at least as I understand it, NEVER BANS birth control...but it simply gives pharmacists the right not to sell things they don't morally agree with.b,121b,121I think it came up because some pharmacist didn't carry the product, and was sued for it...?!b,121b,121What is stronger...the right of a business owner to not sell products he finds morally offensive, or the right of a woman to find exactly the birth control she wants at any pharmacy she wants to buy it?b,121b,121My vote is with the pharmacist.
Quote:h,121b,121b,121My vote is with the pharmacist. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121b,121I understand your argument, but when you factor in realities ofb,121life in the USA, where you may live in an area where all the small b,121pharmacies have closed down because everyone gets their prescriptionsb,121filled at Wal-Mart. And Wal-Mart says they won't carry item X, and isb,121upheld by law. Suddenly you are entering an area where corporate saturationb,121backed by legislation is essentially blocking access to a legal andb,121in-demand medication. I'm not saying I know the details of the originalb,121lawsuit, so I'm not speaking on that, just throwing out why these thingsb,121become issues.
You see it as a moral choice, but I see it as health issue. The pharmacist is in the business of health, not morality. If s/he has a problem with dispensing birth control, methadone, anti-depressants, viagara and other pills and potions that may sit on the morality fence, then perhaps it is not the profession for them? They can choose not to partake in these things themselves, but they are not in a position to make that decision for patients. b,121b,121I don't know the whole story and am reluctant to think suing was in order. I can't see how not taking the pill or the morning after would be a life and death situation, but allowing pharmacists to have this right may be setting the stage for some wacko to turn their profession into a personal pulpit. What is to say someone out there doesn't have a problem with a certain type of heart medication due to ingredients or who manufactures it, etc. etc.? and refuses to carry it? What if they are the only pharmacy in town?
Quote:h,121b,121They can choose not to partake in these things themselves, but they are not in a position to make that decision for patients. b,121b,121b,121h,121
A business should be able to sell or not sell whatever they choose to.b,121b,121If their morality outweighs the profit they would realize, then it becomes a business decision.b,121b,121If there is only one Doctor in your town you can't force or legislate him to perform abortions if he chooses not to.....nor should you be able to.b,121b,121In this day and age you have a variety of ways to purchase legal drugs, the Internet being one.b,121b,121My family receives all of our non-emergency prescriptions by mail.b,121b,121While I don't agree with the pharmacist's decsion, I do support his right to make that decision, especially since we are not talking about "Emergency" medication.b,121b,121If we were, my opinion would be different.
I understand what y'all are saying...and see the potential for abuse.b,121b,121but...morning after pill as real medication?b,121b,121just because something is legal, doesn't make it a right.b,121b,121I very much doubt that national chains like Wal-Mart would ban certain items, as they are typically publicly held. My understanding, which may not be 100% correct, is that this really applies more to mom and pop pharmacists in practice.b,121b,121So, practiclaly speaking, I only see a small chance for abuse...but I agree that needs to be checked. I'm not sure that saying every pharmacists has to offer every legal drug and medical related supply no matter what is the right way to go.
Emergency doesn't have to be life and death.b,121The fear of being pregnant can feel very much like an emergency and again, it is not the place of a health practitioner to make that call for an individual.b,121b,121Ideally, the business/commercial aspect of pharmacy doesn't come first when dealing with patients and their needs.
Quote:h,121b,121Emergency doesn't have to be life and death.b,121The fear of being pregnant can feel very much like an emergency and again, it is not the place of a health practitioner to make that call for an individual.b,121b,121Ideally, the business/commercial aspect of pharmacy doesn't come first when dealing with patients and their needs. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Maybe I'm naive...are there really women having sex and then running to the Pharmacy the next morning to get the morning after pill??b,121b,121Don't you need a prescription?
Quote:h,121b,121b,121b,121Ideally, the business/commercial aspect of pharmacy doesn't come first when dealing with patients and their needs. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121On a totally ironic note....the Pharmacy right down the street from where I am now is well known for carrying a popular product at discount prices....b,121b,121Cigarettes.
Quote:h,121b,121Emergency doesn't have to be life and death.b,121The fear of being pregnant can feel very much like an emergency and again, it is not the place of a health practitioner to make that call for an individual.b,121b,121Ideally, the business/commercial aspect of pharmacy doesn't come first when dealing with patients and their needs. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121Maybe I'm naive...are there really women having sex and then running to the Pharmacy the next morning to get the morning after pill??b,121b,121Don't you need a prescription? b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121While I appreciate it is an easy-breezy conversation we're having, I feel like I need to say that "women having sex and then running to the Pharmacy the next morning to get the morning after pill??" is painting these situations in a much slacker and casual light than they can be.b,121b,121We do not need a prescription in Canada for it and there are not women running to pharmacies in droves every morning after a night of wanton and thoughtless sex.
Quote:h,121b,121b,121b,121Ideally, the business/commercial aspect of pharmacy doesn't come first when dealing with patients and their needs. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121On a totally ironic note....the Pharmacy right down the street from where I am now is well known for carrying a popular product at discount prices....b,121b,121Cigarettes. b,121b,121h,121
b,121b,121good point - those are banned in drug stores and pharmacies here.
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