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Unherd
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I dont really know too much about this case, but when she starts talking about hows MUCH she LOVES her daughter, shit is pretty bugged....
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I don't understand multiple wives - how much nagging can one person take?
Not that im all for this lifestyle, but multiple wives is nothin like Square Love.
coo coo
and in those days nickels had pictures of bumblebees on em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you???d say.
Actually, the 'community' has been known for a while now. There have been raids on FLDS compounds since the 40's or 50's, and their previous 'prophet' was arrested a few years ago on some heavy sex crime charges. I think this cycle is so ingrained that the our conception of "a decent and healthy life" might be outside the realm of comprehension for these folks.
Wikipedia drops some knowledge here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter_Day_Saints
I don't understand why they had to wait for someone to call in distress before the authorities showed up. Maybe I'm not getting some finer points of Texas/American law, but wouldn't this be in the top five of regular visitation sites for children protection services and the like given the history?
cue Harv-chaic talmbout Ruby Ridge, Waco, the IRS, chemtrails, Bohemian Grove, Z-Ro, etc.
It's pretty darned janky to raid then separate children from parents off of just an anonymous phone call with no evidence to speak of.
CPS has a protocol and according to their guidelines, what the police have done so far is WRONG/ILLEGAL.
Yes, I understood that you meant the compound. Somewhere in the wiki link, it mentioned that shortly after the land for this compound was purchased as a "hunting retreat", locals in the area got interested and the FLDS came out stating that this would be their new home.
Also, it's probably important to note that there is a difference between the Church of the Latter Day Saints, and the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints.
ditto what CousinLarry said about needing a complaint. Relatively closed communities, probably not a lot of interaction with the "outside world." Have there been any issues with their compound in British Colombia?
Not by a long shot. In a lot of places - and from what I understand, Texas is probably at the top of the list-there is an unstated 'live and let live' policy with 'communities' that are, shall we say, less than mainstream. The vast majority of the time that is probably a good thing, but when you have groups of children who are potentially at risk of some harm, this is of course something that causes tension and controversy. This was a big part of the craziness of the Waco/Koresh incident, the idea that acommunity set it self off from the rest of the area and establish it's own rules. Of course that is legal, but only to the point where your 'rules' trump local, State and Federal Laws.
You have to have cause to go into private property even to investigate, and the one hone call that gave them the cause may have been overstepping to take out ALL the kids. I really don't think the State of Texas is going to have much of a case when the smoke clears. The people may live like freaks by my standard, and I don't have any pity for guys convicted of facilitating child-marriages, but I hope that the local authorities have all their T's crossed, because otherwise this will make it infinitely harder to police any kind of sect in the future.
I hope so. I thought the Latter Day Saints were all about making pizza for old people and shit.
It's ironic because it's well know that they split from the LDS church over "plural" marrage. But if you ask them they pretty much deny everything. Plus, a lot fo the marrages aren't legally recognized, so while they concider themselves married to 3 people, they may only legally be married to one. It's very tricky.
The local officials have had a plan on the books for a long time to bust these goofs, they just needed that one call for help. I think the officials should be commended. As soon as they got one call they swooped in a shut that sick place down.
On the surface "regular" Mormans claim to be against this, but in reality they are already on the radio with this "well if gays can marry what's wrong with poligamy" BS.
From what I saw on the news, separating the kids from the parents when an accusation of abuse has been made is pretty much standard protocol. Temporarily removing all the kids doesn't seem unreasonable in such an isolated, closed off community, especially one with this kind of history. You really expect any of those women in the clip to stand up to their religious leaders in order to protect their children?
it's a joke dude, you know like chem trails
Arranged marriages? Formerly commonplace.
Marriage of girls around 13? Formerly commonplace.
Multiple wives? Fela kuti.
Lots of things in this country were formerly commonplace. It never made them right, though.
Slavery, child labor...what else shall we bring back?
What, you ain't down with witch burning?
Next thing you'll be telling me slavery is wrong. GTFOOHWTBS.